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5:12pm Tuesday 24th August 2010
There is currently a lot of controversy about the Metropolitan Police’s proposal to use part of Wanstead Flats for a briefing centre during the 2012 Olympics. I quite understand that the land should not be damaged, nor permanently built upon, but is the uproar for this one-off event really necessary?
It’s a fact that the police need a large space in which to feed and then brief their staff before each shift – this is a tried and trusted system which they already operate for other events such as Notting Hill Carnival. So the Met identified various sites near the Olympic Park, but the only one which met all their criteria was Wanstead Flats. So now it’s time for local residents to decide how they feel, as a consultation is launched.
Knowing that there are a lot of strong feelings on this issue, the police called a private meeting to “capture concerns” and answer questions on their proposal. It was attended by representatives of residents associations, Friends of Wanstead Park, nature groups, local riding stables. There were also several members of the Save Wanstead Flats campaign – unfortunately they got up and walked out early on, thus missing the opportunity to discover the details and interrogate the police’s plans.
In fact there will be two separate consultations: one by the Home Office later in the year, regarding a change to the Epping Forest Act which would be needed before the land could be used in this way. The second is by the police, regarding their exact plans for the site. So, if you object to Wanstead Flats being used (ever) then let the Home Office know. However if your objection is just to this particular use, go and have a look at the Police consultation (information is at http://www.wanstead-mbdc.co.uk/ ) – perhaps it will answer your questions or at least ensure any objection is properly informed.
Local feeling is heated and I have seen petitions and flyers bandied about protesting this use of the land – but they are full of false information, for example saying that holding cells will be present (the police state categorically that this will not happen) and that the land will be used for at least 120 days (in fact it will be a maximum of 90 days, which includes construction and take down). It is a shame because petitions gathered on a false basis will probably be dismissed in any case. I can understand that this is a contentious issue on which locals wish to campaign, but it would be better if their facts were accurate so that people could make up their own mind, rather than just hearing propaganda and instantly saying “gosh, how awful!”
I am all for the right to petition and campaign but only on the basis of truth.
In fact I did have some uncertainty – for example the proposed site is not too far from skylark nesting sites, a Site of Special Scientific Interest. However it is used several times a year for funfairs, including this coming Bank Holiday Monday, and there are no rare species of any kind on the land. Further, all structures will sit on top of the land without foundations (there will only be marquees and portacabins), and trackway will be used for vehicle routes, to mitigate the chance of environmental damage.
My only real concern is that any change to the Epping Forest Act must be watertight, so there is no loophole providing for the possibility of development on Wanstead Flats in future. I would urge everyone to put their energies into this – responding to the Home Office consultation when it comes to ensure the long-term protection of the land – rather than criticising the police, who have put a lot of thought into their plans and have experience of running similar centres already.
After all, the last possession of part of Wanstead Flats was during World War II for a Prisoner of War camp. This proposal for the 2012 Olympics is another “once in a lifetime” event, and one from which I hope the local economy will benefit.
Comments(18)
rubberneck
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11:47am Thu 26 Aug 10
Nicholas Gascoine wrote:I agree I think Flash tends to go with the flow and I think it is outrageous that these fields have been used by young and old, disabled and able bodied for years only now to be tarmacked over for cars. I wish people who actually lived in the area were listened to instead of reporters and film stars and the rich an so called famous
This is to do with the "olympics", and therefore, nothing at all that is said by any official body whatsoever is to be trusted. Once the land is taken you can be sure that we won't get it back. It is to be hoped that the Corporation of the City (who are guardians of the forest, including Wanstead flats) refuse, point-blank to have anything to do with this shoddy land-grab. And no, Ms Bristow, I see you've swallowed the lie about "benefitting the local economy" as well. Well, it ani't so. How many times do the majority have to say it: We were not asked if we wanted the olympics, it was wished on us, and we have to pay for it, so it is dis-benefitting the local economy.
techiebabe
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12:39pm Thu 26 Aug 10
techiebabe
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12:50pm Thu 26 Aug 10
rubberneck
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1:58pm Thu 26 Aug 10
techiebabe wrote:All this talk about people renting out their room or house for duration of Olympics is utter rubbish as on what basis will the contract be? Assured Shorthhold has to be a minimum of 6 months, B and B needs planning consent and what happens if it is all done on the side and the one comes home and wants their house back and the Outer Mongolian Olympic Underwater Dance Formation Team refuse to budge as they like it in Waltham Forest and want to stay? Additionally, you will need the consent of your Mortgage Lender before you even think about it. be warned of the pitfalls!
Nicholas - regarding benefiting the local economy, I actually only said I "hoped" it would do so. But actually I believe it will. There will be millions of visitors staying locally - admittedly Waltham Forest is rather short on hotels, but I'm sure some people will rent out their spare room or even go away and rent out their house to visitors. These visitors will also be dining locally, and shopping locally (even if it's just for a bottle of water and a sandwich). So they will be bringing money into the area.
Redbridge Bill
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9:31pm Thu 26 Aug 10
Dixster
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5:02pm Wed 1 Sep 10
jef costello
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12:02am Thu 2 Sep 10
Robert19
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8:48am Thu 2 Sep 10
Robert19
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8:55am Thu 2 Sep 10
Dixster wrote:Dixster
No, No & No.
I am a local resident and the bylaws allow me to graze my cattle (if I had any) on Wanstead Flats. I would consider obtaining cows and grazing them all over any developement.
It is common land donated to the Corporation to be kept as common land. The last time buildings were proposed, the local population stood in a ring around Wanstead Flats and refused to allow it (although that was some time ago). There will always be people minded to grab the land as it is extremely valuable.
I will be on Wanstead Flats on Saturday to play my part in ensuring it remains unspoilt common ground.
orientfan
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11:49am Thu 2 Sep 10
Dixster
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7:24pm Thu 2 Sep 10
Robert19
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9:18am Fri 3 Sep 10
locooldgit
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2:10pm Fri 3 Sep 10
drysuitdiver
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6:37pm Mon 6 Sep 10
jef costello wrote:you think we don't do this already. the knife crime problem is sadly a national problem not just a forest gate/leytonstone/man
Can't help but think these protestors might benefit the community better by asking the police what the heck is being done about knife crime in E11.
drysuitdiver
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6:44pm Mon 6 Sep 10
orientfan wrote:have a google for Plymouth Argyle, and the park in Plymouth they "leased" from the local authority. now not available for public use. I am not a nimby, if the police wish to build there they can under the existing act which has provison in it for special events for up to 120 days. it is the change to the act that is the sore point . there are far more suitable sites locally, within the park too. the quote of the day yesterday was about enclosure being illegal. it may well be but the flats get enclosed for many days over the year especially when fireworks or Mela etc are on them. does the poster not realise that traffic will increase huely in the area, not just during construction but during the operation. in the summer holidays , when we have children in the streets. the MPS don't have a good track record for pedestrian collisions !!
The reaction of so many posters so far is way over the top. This will be a temporary building for a temporary event, those who talk of tarmacking and land grab are simply scare-mongering NIMBYs. The Olympics will be brilliant for London and there will be a small amount of inconvenience for a few people for a few weeks - but this is a once in a lifetime event and people should embrace it rather than get heated about the fact that their lives will be affected for a few weeks out of one year out of an entire lifetime. I use Wanstead Flats and don't want to see it damaged in any way - why do some of you have an absolute belief that it will be?
techiebabe
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5:27pm Wed 15 Sep 10
Earle Martin
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3:48pm Fri 17 Sep 10
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Nicholas Gascoine says...
9:00am Thu 26 Aug 10
Once the land is taken you can be sure that we won't get it back.
It is to be hoped that the Corporation of the City (who are guardians of the forest, including Wanstead flats) refuse, point-blank to have anything to do with this shoddy land-grab.
And no, Ms Bristow, I see you've swallowed the lie about "benefitting the local economy" as well. Well, it ani't so.
How many times do the majority have to say it:
We were not asked if we wanted the olympics, it was wished on us, and we have to pay for it, so it is dis-benefitting the local economy.