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At least our school pupils know who Churchill was!
Left to right, Harry Zumeris, Harry Mathews, Luke Adshead, Finley Bliss and Harry Jones with Winston Churchill's statue in Woodford Green. Inset, George Green, who learned who the MP was at primary school
Left to right, Harry Zumeris, Harry Mathews, Luke Adshead, Finley Bliss and Harry Jones with Winston Churchill's statue in Woodford Green. Inset, George Green, who learned who the MP was at primary school

A QUARTER of adults think he's a jowley insurance hound, one in three children think he was the first man on the moon and a Woodford Green 'celebrity' thinks he was America's first black President - but at least school children in Wanstead and Woodford know who their local hero is.

Woodford Green students get top marks for history after proving they know more about the former British Prime Minister and MP for Woodford, Winston Churchill, than the rest of the nation.

A recent survey of 1,400 youngsters found one in three confused Churchill with astronaut Neil Armstrong, despite the two being born in different centuries and on opposite sides of the Atlantic.

Adults fared no better with a poll commissioned by UKTV Gold revealing a quarter think Churchill's only claim to fame is car insurance, while former Big Brother contestant Danielle Lloyd embarrassed the borough on the BBC's Test the Nation quiz, when she claimed he was the first black president of the USA, citing the weathered statue in Woodford Green as proof of Churchill's ethnicity.

Redbridge schoolchildren saved the day, however, with everyone in our special poll getting top marks on their local and British history.

Finley Bliss, 13, of Woodbridge School said that although they did not learn about Churchill until year nine, everyone knew who he was.

He added: "If you don't take history for GCSE you won't get taught about him at school, but I know about him because my grandad was a sailor."

The rest of Finley's friends were also clued up on the former PM, by learning from family members or visiting museums. Luke Adshead, 12, said: "Anyone who doesn't know about Winston Churchill is a nut-head, as if you come from round here and don't know you obviously can't be bothered to learn."

When asked if more should be taught about the Second World War at school, 14-year-old George Green from Trinity Catholic High School said: "We did it a bit in primary school but they don't teach it until later years because you have to be a bit older to understand the Holocaust."

Also from Trinity High, friends Emma Wharrie and Michelle Joyce said they could not put their fingers on how they knew, but said it was just something naturally ingrained.

Michelle added: "I think people should know more if they come from Woodford, and Danielle Lloyd should be ashamed of herself.

"It's part of our local and national heritage."

10:05am Wednesday 2nd April 2008

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Posted by: Mr Khalid, walthamstow on 11:33am Wed 2 Apr 08
how is think the wishton charghils black? he white? the chidren eat to much junkeded foods and play game compute and no read the book and grow stuped up no no no thing. must teching them all histry and so lerneded about all thing
Posted by: An Observer, London on 12:36pm Wed 2 Apr 08
I have come to the conclusion that "Mr Khalid" must be an employee of the Guardian.

I am sure that if anyone else regulary made fun of the stories and of peoples plight and pity they would be removed.

So I would like to ask the Guardian why do they allow all these stupid messages.

I am aware of freedom of speech and a joke is a joke but now this is going too far.

Either remove "Mr Khalid's" stupid replies or admit they are written by the Guardian themselves.
Posted by: Leon, Leytonstone on 1:08pm Wed 2 Apr 08
An Observer wrote:
I have come to the conclusion that "Mr Khalid" must be an employee of the Guardian. I am sure that if anyone else regulary made fun of the stories and of peoples plight and pity they would be removed. So I would like to ask the Guardian why do they allow all these stupid messages. I am aware of freedom of speech and a joke is a joke but now this is going too far. Either remove "Mr Khalid's" stupid replies or admit they are written by the Guardian themselves.
Hang on a minute. What about some of the rubbish you have written in the past Observer? In fact apart from the spelling, he has not been offensive in any way, unlike some of the other contributers. You are criticising the man because he cannot spell? He generally makes some good points.
Posted by: Another Mr Khalid, E11 on 2:39pm Wed 2 Apr 08
Leon wrote:
An Observer wrote: I have come to the conclusion that "Mr Khalid" must be an employee of the Guardian. I am sure that if anyone else regulary made fun of the stories and of peoples plight and pity they would be removed. So I would like to ask the Guardian why do they allow all these stupid messages. I am aware of freedom of speech and a joke is a joke but now this is going too far. Either remove "Mr Khalid's" stupid replies or admit they are written by the Guardian themselves.
Hang on a minute. What about some of the rubbish you have written in the past Observer? In fact apart from the spelling, he has not been offensive in any way, unlike some of the other contributers. You are criticising the man because he cannot spell? He generally makes some good points.
Of course he can spell - if you read a lot of his comments he simply has to cut and paste the name from above - Mr Khalid is most definently a scam - possible an alias of Leon
Posted by: Jonathan, Guardian House on 3:58pm Wed 2 Apr 08
Mr Khalid is not a member of the Guardian's editorial staff. His postings are not offensive and therefore not removed. He may not be able to spell, but I have not read anything that could justify censoring him - Ed.
Posted by: Chris, Essex on 6:12am Thu 3 Apr 08
According to the 'About us' section of this website the Editor of the Guardian is Pat Stannard - the only person named Jonathan is Jonathan Bunn - Chief reporter.
Whether the message previous to this one is genuine is impossible to say.
I reckon Mr Kaylied should be given a permanent job on the Guardian -Kwally tee kontroll. He could be a roll muddle for us all
Posted by: md250, ilford on 6:25pm Thu 3 Apr 08
Chris wrote:
According to the 'About us' section of this website the Editor of the Guardian is Pat Stannard - the only person named Jonathan is Jonathan Bunn - Chief reporter. Whether the message previous to this one is genuine is impossible to say. I reckon Mr Kaylied should be given a permanent job on the Guardian -Kwally tee kontroll. He could be a roll muddle for us all
YOU SHOULD BE A COPPER YOU CRETIN, WHAT IS YOUR POINT?
Posted by: Michelle Joyce and Emma Wharrie, Woodford Greem on 8:23pm Thu 3 Apr 08
We Never Said Anything About Danielle Lloyd! We Did'nt Even Know She Said That..She Aint A Disgrace!! Don't Misquote Us!!!
Posted by: E on 8:55pm Thu 3 Apr 08
Emma and micehelle are well peng :D
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