Town hall pub plan approved

The former Leyton Town Hall building

The former Leyton Town Hall building

First published in News East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

PLANS to convert part of the former Leyton Town Hall building into a pub have been approved.

Waltham Forest Council has rubber stamped the proposals by London chain Antic Ltd for alterations to the Grade II listed site in Leyton High Road.

It comes after several front rooms of the historic building were used for a temporary 'pop-up' bar by the company during the Olympic and Paralympic Games this summer.

Antic Ltd applied for change of use permission, along with the installation of a pub sign, a new door and repairs to its ceiling.

The application was approved under delegated powers by council officers.

Antic Ltd has been credited with helping to revitalise Leytonstone High Road when it reopened the historic Red Lion last year, and it is hoped a new up-market pub in Leyton could have a similar effect.

The building, which is now officially called Leyton Municipal Offices, is owned by Lee Valley Estates.

Its chairman, Michael Polledri MBE, told the Guardian he hoped the new pub would open early in 2013.

However Antic Ltd added a note of caution, saying there were a number of "red tape" bureaucratic issues and there was no guarantee when or if the pub would open.

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12:04pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

Amazing how that has been through so quickly, I suppose money talks.

I could imagine the hoops one would have to jump through to get a change of use on a premises owned by an individual.

This could be the Death Knell for the Birkbeck Tavern now as all the away fans visiting Leyton Orient will go in the Town Hall
Amazing how that has been through so quickly, I suppose money talks. I could imagine the hoops one would have to jump through to get a change of use on a premises owned by an individual. This could be the Death Knell for the Birkbeck Tavern now as all the away fans visiting Leyton Orient will go in the Town Hall Cornbeefur
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1:10pm Sat 10 Nov 12

underground says...

will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago
will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago underground
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1:27pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

underground wrote:
will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago
Unfortunately, it has completely lost its identity and uniqueness like Waltahmstow.
[quote][p][bold]underground[/bold] wrote: will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, it has completely lost its identity and uniqueness like Waltahmstow. Cornbeefur
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4:41pm Sat 10 Nov 12

markhouse24 says...

Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck.
It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.
Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens. markhouse24
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4:55pm Sat 10 Nov 12

stickmanny says...

underground wrote:
will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago
I'm glad you moved out too
[quote][p][bold]underground[/bold] wrote: will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago[/p][/quote]I'm glad you moved out too stickmanny
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6:43pm Sat 10 Nov 12

ruby newbie says...

i think this is great news...and i wish the pub a very happy future.
i think this is great news...and i wish the pub a very happy future. ruby newbie
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10:08pm Sat 10 Nov 12

Sam Hain says...

markhouse24 wrote:
Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck.
It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.
Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life!
[quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.[/p][/quote]Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life! Sam Hain
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10:42pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SXH says...

ruby newbie wrote:
i think this is great news...and i wish the pub a very happy future.
me too
[quote][p][bold]ruby newbie[/bold] wrote: i think this is great news...and i wish the pub a very happy future.[/p][/quote]me too SXH
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10:43pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SXH says...

stickmanny wrote:
underground wrote: will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago
I'm glad you moved out too
well said
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]underground[/bold] wrote: will fit in nice with all rubbish shops in the high road. somewhere for the buggy brigade and local scum to sit and count there giros. leyton high road was a nice place 30 years before the scum and yuppies moved in. another london slum borough. good riddance to it. glad i moved out of slum years ago[/p][/quote]I'm glad you moved out too[/p][/quote]well said SXH
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10:44pm Sat 10 Nov 12

SXH says...

Sam Hain wrote:
markhouse24 wrote: Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.
Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life!
well said both
[quote][p][bold]Sam Hain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.[/p][/quote]Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life![/p][/quote]well said both SXH
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7:05am Sun 11 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

SXH wrote:
Sam Hain wrote:
markhouse24 wrote: Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.
Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life!
well said both
You cannot polish a Richard the Third.
[quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam Hain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.[/p][/quote]Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life![/p][/quote]well said both[/p][/quote]You cannot polish a Richard the Third. Cornbeefur
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8:52am Sun 11 Nov 12

E17_er says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote:
Sam Hain wrote:
markhouse24 wrote: Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.
Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life!
well said both
You cannot polish a Richard the Third.
Yet you keep making the same tired comments that weren't good the first time.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sam Hain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: Oh stop moaning for goodness sake. If it brings more people into Leyton (as the Clapton Hart has for Clapton) it will be no bad thing for the Birkbeck. It was a nice pub during the Olympics and will add to the uniqueness of Leyton High Road. I'll certainly be more likely to go up that way when it opens.[/p][/quote]Well said, markhouse24. Anyone who visited the 'Leyton Technical' pop-up pub during the Olympics will not recognise any of the negative comments above. I hope it gets the go-ahead to become a permanent fixture. Also, the High Road has been transformed after a major investment programme by the Council which has won national and international prizes. The relentless negativity of some of the posters on this site is deeply depressing and bears little or no relationship to the actual situation. What a sad, grey, dreary, depressing existence these people must lead and, worse, they try and drag us down with them. For God's sake get a life![/p][/quote]well said both[/p][/quote]You cannot polish a Richard the Third.[/p][/quote]Yet you keep making the same tired comments that weren't good the first time. E17_er
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10:26am Sun 11 Nov 12

SXH says...

Cornbeefur all i ever see you do is make bad comments on others. get a life.
Cornbeefur all i ever see you do is make bad comments on others. get a life. SXH
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10:36am Sun 11 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

SXH wrote:
Cornbeefur all i ever see you do is make bad comments on others. get a life.
I make appropriate comments in my view, if you disagree then fair enough, that is your view, which, like me, you are equally entitled to make.

No need for insults.
[quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: Cornbeefur all i ever see you do is make bad comments on others. get a life.[/p][/quote]I make appropriate comments in my view, if you disagree then fair enough, that is your view, which, like me, you are equally entitled to make. No need for insults. Cornbeefur
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10:50am Sun 11 Nov 12

Sean P says...

Great news for Leyton. All the negative comments seem to be coming from people who have moved out to essex. Stay in TOWIE land, we dont need or want you here.
Also can Antic now spend a bit of cash on fixing up the excellent Red lion in E11?
Great news for Leyton. All the negative comments seem to be coming from people who have moved out to essex. Stay in TOWIE land, we dont need or want you here. Also can Antic now spend a bit of cash on fixing up the excellent Red lion in E11? Sean P
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10:23pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Robert19 says...

I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building.
I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building. Robert19
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10:34pm Sun 11 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

Robert19 wrote:
I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building.
I would not be sure, they have got away with anew pub here, they may get away with anything.
[quote][p][bold]Robert19[/bold] wrote: I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building.[/p][/quote]I would not be sure, they have got away with anew pub here, they may get away with anything. Cornbeefur
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9:52am Mon 12 Nov 12

Sean P says...

Robert19 wrote:
I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building.
I mean the upstairs of Red lion. They need to fix it up. Its a watering hole for the local pigeons.
[quote][p][bold]Robert19[/bold] wrote: I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building.[/p][/quote]I mean the upstairs of Red lion. They need to fix it up. Its a watering hole for the local pigeons. Sean P
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10:37am Mon 12 Nov 12

the dame says...

I, too, visited the pop-up pub during the Olympic season and thoroughly enjoyed its atmosphere and service. It was not a 'yobbos' pub and need never be so. It will be a welcome addition to Leyton High Road as the majority of the old pubs such as The Lion & Key and The Blackbirds no longer exist. I wish Antic Ltd good luck with their venture.
I, too, visited the pop-up pub during the Olympic season and thoroughly enjoyed its atmosphere and service. It was not a 'yobbos' pub and need never be so. It will be a welcome addition to Leyton High Road as the majority of the old pubs such as The Lion & Key and The Blackbirds no longer exist. I wish Antic Ltd good luck with their venture. the dame
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11:12am Mon 12 Nov 12

LouabE10 says...

I'm really looking forward to this opening, sooner rather than later. Loved the pop-up during the Olympics and the fact that it had a real mix of visitors, young, old and inbetween, and a really friendly atmosphere. Hope they'll be doing food along side their superb range of local beers. It'll be great to have somewhere within walking distance to go of an evening.
I don't know what some people are grumbling about on here. I've lived in Leyton 25 years, and the improvements on the high street and around and about have made a real difference. I've always thought Leyton has bags of potential and it's just starting to realise them. The town hall and Library buildings are superb, it'll be great to have them more open to the public.Good luck to Antic, I hope they can wade through the red tape and get it open asap!
I'm really looking forward to this opening, sooner rather than later. Loved the pop-up during the Olympics and the fact that it had a real mix of visitors, young, old and inbetween, and a really friendly atmosphere. Hope they'll be doing food along side their superb range of local beers. It'll be great to have somewhere within walking distance to go of an evening. I don't know what some people are grumbling about on here. I've lived in Leyton 25 years, and the improvements on the high street and around and about have made a real difference. I've always thought Leyton has bags of potential and it's just starting to realise them. The town hall and Library buildings are superb, it'll be great to have them more open to the public.Good luck to Antic, I hope they can wade through the red tape and get it open asap! LouabE10
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1:51pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Robert19 says...

Sean P wrote:
Robert19 wrote:
I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building.
I mean the upstairs of Red lion. They need to fix it up. Its a watering hole for the local pigeons.
I see what you mean. Before it reopened I was told they were going to let it out for community use as well as developing it as a music venue. Not seen much progress on that. I guess too busy coping with the crowds downstairs. Let's hope they can be as successful with the Leyton venue.
[quote][p][bold]Sean P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Robert19[/bold] wrote: I think the distressed look of the Red Lion is deliberate. Not sure if they would want to do the same to a Grade II Listed building.[/p][/quote]I mean the upstairs of Red lion. They need to fix it up. Its a watering hole for the local pigeons.[/p][/quote]I see what you mean. Before it reopened I was told they were going to let it out for community use as well as developing it as a music venue. Not seen much progress on that. I guess too busy coping with the crowds downstairs. Let's hope they can be as successful with the Leyton venue. Robert19
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4:10pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Sam Hain says...

LouabE10 wrote:
I'm really looking forward to this opening, sooner rather than later. Loved the pop-up during the Olympics and the fact that it had a real mix of visitors, young, old and inbetween, and a really friendly atmosphere. Hope they'll be doing food along side their superb range of local beers. It'll be great to have somewhere within walking distance to go of an evening.
I don't know what some people are grumbling about on here. I've lived in Leyton 25 years, and the improvements on the high street and around and about have made a real difference. I've always thought Leyton has bags of potential and it's just starting to realise them. The town hall and Library buildings are superb, it'll be great to have them more open to the public.Good luck to Antic, I hope they can wade through the red tape and get it open asap!
Great comment LouabE10, lovely to have some positivity and enthusiasm instead of the usual 'Jeremiahs' and moaning minnies maundering on!
[quote][p][bold]LouabE10[/bold] wrote: I'm really looking forward to this opening, sooner rather than later. Loved the pop-up during the Olympics and the fact that it had a real mix of visitors, young, old and inbetween, and a really friendly atmosphere. Hope they'll be doing food along side their superb range of local beers. It'll be great to have somewhere within walking distance to go of an evening. I don't know what some people are grumbling about on here. I've lived in Leyton 25 years, and the improvements on the high street and around and about have made a real difference. I've always thought Leyton has bags of potential and it's just starting to realise them. The town hall and Library buildings are superb, it'll be great to have them more open to the public.Good luck to Antic, I hope they can wade through the red tape and get it open asap![/p][/quote]Great comment LouabE10, lovely to have some positivity and enthusiasm instead of the usual 'Jeremiahs' and moaning minnies maundering on! Sam Hain
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8:26pm Wed 14 Nov 12

KWyatt-Lown says...

As anyone who may have read the exchanges after the article ; http://www.guardian-
series.co.uk/your_lo
cal_areas/10022892.N
ew_Tesco__making_ind
ependent_traders_los
e_out_/ will be aware, I have been seeking a simple response from Cornbeefur to two very straightforward questions. Why he elects to hide behind his self-confessed “user name” and what, indeed, his real name is.

Having been challenged by him on these same issues I was happy to provide an open and honest response. He has now spent the last seven days evading the questions himself, occasionally providing somewhat insulting and, indeed, frankly juvenile postings (I think we all might agree that “my dad’s bigger than your dad” hardly raises the bar on reasoned debate) that do little to enhance any reputation he might possibly seek to establish or maintain as a worthwhile contributor to grown-up and rational discussion within these pages.

So, Cornbeefur, I ask you once again: please have the good grace to return my courtesy and answer my unambiguous questions. Thank you.
As anyone who may have read the exchanges after the article ; http://www.guardian- series.co.uk/your_lo cal_areas/10022892.N ew_Tesco__making_ind ependent_traders_los e_out_/ will be aware, I have been seeking a simple response from Cornbeefur to two very straightforward questions. Why he elects to hide behind his self-confessed “user name” and what, indeed, his real name is. Having been challenged by him on these same issues I was happy to provide an open and honest response. He has now spent the last seven days evading the questions himself, occasionally providing somewhat insulting and, indeed, frankly juvenile postings (I think we all might agree that “my dad’s bigger than your dad” hardly raises the bar on reasoned debate) that do little to enhance any reputation he might possibly seek to establish or maintain as a worthwhile contributor to grown-up and rational discussion within these pages. So, Cornbeefur, I ask you once again: please have the good grace to return my courtesy and answer my unambiguous questions. Thank you. KWyatt-Lown
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