Popular pub the Birkbeck Tavern saved from closure

Regulars celebrate the saving of the Birkbeck Tavern

Regulars celebrate the saving of the Birkbeck Tavern

First published in News East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

A POPULAR pub has been saved from the threat of closure following a community campaign.

The future of the Birkbeck Tavern, in Langthorne Road, Leytonstone, had been uncertain after owner Sarumdale Ltd, a national chain, went into administration in June.

Many of those who then expressed an interest in buying it were property developers, sparking a grassroots campaign and petition signed by over 1,800 residents against it being turned into flats.

And now campaigners are celebrating following the announcement that the Barter Inns chain has stepped in and bought it.

Jess Dickenson, 33, who lives a few doors down from the pub, set up the petition.

She said: "We're really pleased. There was a concern that it could be the end of the pub but I think the support from the community has shown there is a big demand for it.

"It plays an important role locally, whether for live music, football fans or a place for people to meet, and we're so lucky to have it."

Stephen Ferguson, who has managed the pub with his partner Ali Vickers over the past year, said he was delighted at the news.

But he added that they would be stepping down from the role in the new year.

He said: "We were thinking of leaving for a while as it's very anti-social hours running a pub, but we decided to stay on during the administration process to show it was still viable and a going concern.

"It's lovely, fantastic pub with really nice people. People like Jess have done a fantastic job with the petition and demonstrating how important it is to the community.

"We just want to thank everyone for their support".

Mr Ferguson and Ms Vickers say they will remain in charge probably up to February or March until Barter Inns found a new manager.

The pair also run the popular 'What's Cookin' music nights at the pub, which will also take a break in the new year.

Mr Ferguson added: "We must want to have some time out. There's a big demand for What's Cookin' and I'm sure it's more than likely that it will return in some form somewhere.

"The new owners know live music is a big draw to the pub and they've indicated they want that to continue, but I'm not sure in what form at this point."

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6:46pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Dave mp says...

What a surprise? Didn't they sneak a band from another pub just to 'pinch' some trade on their 'SOS' night?
What a surprise? Didn't they sneak a band from another pub just to 'pinch' some trade on their 'SOS' night? Dave mp
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10:00am Wed 28 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

Good news, this is a victory for the campaigners. We'll see more of this, developers snaffling up parcels of land to build indentikit little box flats, the 491 Gallery's going to be developed and you can bet other speculators will be sniffing round now gentrification's finally started in E11. Let's remember what makes a community cohesive and able to act against those with no emotional investment in the area.
Good news, this is a victory for the campaigners. We'll see more of this, developers snaffling up parcels of land to build indentikit little box flats, the 491 Gallery's going to be developed and you can bet other speculators will be sniffing round now gentrification's finally started in E11. Let's remember what makes a community cohesive and able to act against those with no emotional investment in the area. Stevo98
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10:14am Wed 28 Nov 12

Walthamster says...

Cheers to all who helped save their pub. We don't have to lose everything to developers, if people care enough to campaign.
Cheers to all who helped save their pub. We don't have to lose everything to developers, if people care enough to campaign. Walthamster
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10:50am Wed 28 Nov 12

Isaythat says...

A brilliant example of what can be achieved if a community pull together. I wish the new manager a prosperous and happy future.
A brilliant example of what can be achieved if a community pull together. I wish the new manager a prosperous and happy future. Isaythat
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10:52am Wed 28 Nov 12

RichieA70 says...

Great news for a great community pub. There's a real pub renaissance going on here now. Antic's new pub opens at Leyton town hall next year and work is well underway at the Chequers following major refurbishments at The Goose, C-Tavern & Bell.
Great news for a great community pub. There's a real pub renaissance going on here now. Antic's new pub opens at Leyton town hall next year and work is well underway at the Chequers following major refurbishments at The Goose, C-Tavern & Bell. RichieA70
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11:56am Wed 28 Nov 12

ruby newbie says...

WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???
WHAT NO CORNBEEFER??? ruby newbie
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12:00pm Wed 28 Nov 12

RichieA70 says...

ruby newbie wrote:
WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???
Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had.
[quote][p][bold]ruby newbie[/bold] wrote: WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???[/p][/quote]Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had. RichieA70
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12:13pm Wed 28 Nov 12

jef costello says...

Great news. Shame Stephen Ferguson and Ali Vickers are leaving. They are the ones that turned - let's be honest - what was a mediocre pub into an excellent one.

Latest whiff of Leytonstone's gentrification: one of those funky coffee vans at the tube station.
Great news. Shame Stephen Ferguson and Ali Vickers are leaving. They are the ones that turned - let's be honest - what was a mediocre pub into an excellent one. Latest whiff of Leytonstone's gentrification: one of those funky coffee vans at the tube station. jef costello
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12:25pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Sam Hain says...

More good news on the local pub front. Reminder that The Goose at Walthamstow Central has been refurbished and has a launch night tomorrow (Thursday) from 6pm.
More good news on the local pub front. Reminder that The Goose at Walthamstow Central has been refurbished and has a launch night tomorrow (Thursday) from 6pm. Sam Hain
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12:36pm Wed 28 Nov 12

hargwyne says...

RichieA70 wrote:
ruby newbie wrote:
WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???
Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had.
Looks like he's been finally banned! His messages have been removed from other threads he commented on. How we shall miss the wit, the verve, the wisdom...

No doubt he'll reappear in another guise shortly. People like that rarely remember to keep taking their medication...
[quote][p][bold]RichieA70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ruby newbie[/bold] wrote: WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???[/p][/quote]Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had.[/p][/quote]Looks like he's been finally banned! His messages have been removed from other threads he commented on. How we shall miss the wit, the verve, the wisdom... No doubt he'll reappear in another guise shortly. People like that rarely remember to keep taking their medication... hargwyne
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1:01pm Wed 28 Nov 12

E-ten trifles says...

Brilliant , a real shame 'whats cooking' are leaving' but mission accomplished pub saved and the amazing beer garden is safe too
Brilliant , a real shame 'whats cooking' are leaving' but mission accomplished pub saved and the amazing beer garden is safe too E-ten trifles
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2:39pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

Could become an interesting area down there, being so close to Chobham Farm, the new houses on the Olympic Park.

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I can see that little bit of Leytonstone will look and feel very different in a few years.
Could become an interesting area down there, being so close to Chobham Farm, the new houses on the Olympic Park. http://www.chobhamfa rm.com/Images/New-im ages-of-development. jpg http://www.chobhamfa rm.com/Images/New-im ages-of-development. jpg I can see that little bit of Leytonstone will look and feel very different in a few years. Stevo98
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3:23pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Sam Hain says...

Funny old wrld, a community campaign to save a poplular pub used to be known as popping down to the local for a pint. I guess the message here is if you don't use it you lose it. However, the message to landlords and -ladies must be to give your customers what they want. The take-it-or-leave-it attitude of yesteryear, when there was little real competition so punters suffered in silence, is no longer tenable.
Funny old wrld, a community campaign to save a poplular pub used to be known as popping down to the local for a pint. I guess the message here is if you don't use it you lose it. However, the message to landlords and -ladies must be to give your customers what they want. The take-it-or-leave-it attitude of yesteryear, when there was little real competition so punters suffered in silence, is no longer tenable. Sam Hain
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3:40pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

hargwyne wrote:
RichieA70 wrote:
ruby newbie wrote:
WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???
Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had.
Looks like he's been finally banned! His messages have been removed from other threads he commented on. How we shall miss the wit, the verve, the wisdom...

No doubt he'll reappear in another guise shortly. People like that rarely remember to keep taking their medication...
This is great news and I did say about 2 weeks ago that it had been bought by a Pub Company and that it was all a lot of worry about nothing, got the usual abuse and name calling.

As Mr Hain says, lets hope all the locals use it as it is often half empty during the week.

These pubs are closing because they are not used and then people complain when they are converted into flats and so on.
[quote][p][bold]hargwyne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichieA70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ruby newbie[/bold] wrote: WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???[/p][/quote]Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had.[/p][/quote]Looks like he's been finally banned! His messages have been removed from other threads he commented on. How we shall miss the wit, the verve, the wisdom... No doubt he'll reappear in another guise shortly. People like that rarely remember to keep taking their medication...[/p][/quote]This is great news and I did say about 2 weeks ago that it had been bought by a Pub Company and that it was all a lot of worry about nothing, got the usual abuse and name calling. As Mr Hain says, lets hope all the locals use it as it is often half empty during the week. These pubs are closing because they are not used and then people complain when they are converted into flats and so on. Cornbeefur
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3:42pm Wed 28 Nov 12

jef costello says...

Meanwhile, the Woodhouse Tavern in Harrow rd - which survived a visit from the Luftwaffe - appears to have closed. To be honest, the last time I went in, it was as quiet as a crypt and sold no real ale, only stuff which is much cheaper to drink at home. With alcohol costing as much as it does, a pub visit better be a value-added experience or punters will vote with their feet. Pub managers should look at the Red Lion, The North Star and the Rookwood for how to run a successful boozer in a tough economic climate.
Meanwhile, the Woodhouse Tavern in Harrow rd - which survived a visit from the Luftwaffe - appears to have closed. To be honest, the last time I went in, it was as quiet as a crypt and sold no real ale, only stuff which is much cheaper to drink at home. With alcohol costing as much as it does, a pub visit better be a value-added experience or punters will vote with their feet. Pub managers should look at the Red Lion, The North Star and the Rookwood for how to run a successful boozer in a tough economic climate. jef costello
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4:02pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

I didn't know The Bell had been renovated? That part of the high road desperately needs refurbishment, although the old Loaded Dog is now an Eastern European restaurant I think.
I didn't know The Bell had been renovated? That part of the high road desperately needs refurbishment, although the old Loaded Dog is now an Eastern European restaurant I think. Stevo98
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4:25pm Wed 28 Nov 12

E17_er says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
hargwyne wrote:
RichieA70 wrote:
ruby newbie wrote:
WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???
Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had.
Looks like he's been finally banned! His messages have been removed from other threads he commented on. How we shall miss the wit, the verve, the wisdom...

No doubt he'll reappear in another guise shortly. People like that rarely remember to keep taking their medication...
This is great news and I did say about 2 weeks ago that it had been bought by a Pub Company and that it was all a lot of worry about nothing, got the usual abuse and name calling.

As Mr Hain says, lets hope all the locals use it as it is often half empty during the week.

These pubs are closing because they are not used and then people complain when they are converted into flats and so on.
No you were rude and offensive and showed a complete lack of knowledge of the process involved in purchasing a property including claiming that "Under Offer" meant a closed deal.

Choice comments included "Any objection must be on Planning Merits not hot air empty vessel noises from people who love the idea of a 'local' on their doorstep but hardly use it, taking their friends and family in on Christmas day, hogging the Bar with prams and pushchairs and pretending they are regulars and at the same time cheesing off the real regulars and Staff.

You have to support a pub 365 days a year not just when Aunty Edna stays over or a gang of American blokes that you met on your holidays"
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hargwyne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RichieA70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ruby newbie[/bold] wrote: WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???[/p][/quote]Cornbeefur doesn't comment on good news as there's no mischief to be had.[/p][/quote]Looks like he's been finally banned! His messages have been removed from other threads he commented on. How we shall miss the wit, the verve, the wisdom... No doubt he'll reappear in another guise shortly. People like that rarely remember to keep taking their medication...[/p][/quote]This is great news and I did say about 2 weeks ago that it had been bought by a Pub Company and that it was all a lot of worry about nothing, got the usual abuse and name calling. As Mr Hain says, lets hope all the locals use it as it is often half empty during the week. These pubs are closing because they are not used and then people complain when they are converted into flats and so on.[/p][/quote]No you were rude and offensive and showed a complete lack of knowledge of the process involved in purchasing a property including claiming that "Under Offer" meant a closed deal. Choice comments included "Any objection must be on Planning Merits not hot air empty vessel noises from people who love the idea of a 'local' on their doorstep but hardly use it, taking their friends and family in on Christmas day, hogging the Bar with prams and pushchairs and pretending they are regulars and at the same time cheesing off the real regulars and Staff. You have to support a pub 365 days a year not just when Aunty Edna stays over or a gang of American blokes that you met on your holidays" E17_er
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4:51pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

Ignore the troll or report it, don't drag its rubbish onto other threads please.


I looked up the old Loaded Dog, it's now a Lithuanian restuarant, the Shepherd's Inn.
Ignore the troll or report it, don't drag its rubbish onto other threads please. I looked up the old Loaded Dog, it's now a Lithuanian restuarant, the Shepherd's Inn. Stevo98
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5:04pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Alan_1976 says...

ruby newbie wrote:
WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???
The troll doth protest too much
[quote][p][bold]ruby newbie[/bold] wrote: WHAT NO CORNBEEFER???[/p][/quote]The troll doth protest too much Alan_1976
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6:20pm Wed 28 Nov 12

jef costello says...

Stevo98 - the Bell hasn't been refurbished; in fact 'scary and dirty' was an opinion shared with me by someone who has been in - I haven't been in since the old tenants Bill and Mary (?) left last year. Shame if it's true, because it was a good, friendly pub.
Stevo98 - the Bell hasn't been refurbished; in fact 'scary and dirty' was an opinion shared with me by someone who has been in - I haven't been in since the old tenants Bill and Mary (?) left last year. Shame if it's true, because it was a good, friendly pub. jef costello
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7:40pm Wed 28 Nov 12

stickmanny says...

Cornbeefur has to keep his nose clean as he's on a warning from the editor

:-)
Cornbeefur has to keep his nose clean as he's on a warning from the editor :-) stickmanny
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10:04pm Wed 28 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

I thought Mary was related to The North Star publicans? Someone has to be brave and link up Leytonstone High Road with Maryland for when Crossrail arrives, that stretch is Godawful. We need more than another Tesco Metro.
I thought Mary was related to The North Star publicans? Someone has to be brave and link up Leytonstone High Road with Maryland for when Crossrail arrives, that stretch is Godawful. We need more than another Tesco Metro. Stevo98
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11:59pm Wed 28 Nov 12

jef costello says...

Yes, Stevo98 - Mary def related to North Star lot. Sister, I think. Nice lady.

There are meant to be plans to do the same spruce up as Leyton on that bit of Lstone High Road. I'll believe it when I see it. WFC think Leytonstone ends at the railway bridge.
Yes, Stevo98 - Mary def related to North Star lot. Sister, I think. Nice lady. There are meant to be plans to do the same spruce up as Leyton on that bit of Lstone High Road. I'll believe it when I see it. WFC think Leytonstone ends at the railway bridge. jef costello
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12:06am Thu 29 Nov 12

SXH says...

There has been talks for many years to improve that part of Leytonstone high road, were still waiting, its all talk, Tesco Metro is a start, maybe another 10 years before you get another clean looking shop there, we used to have nice shops along there years ago.
There has been talks for many years to improve that part of Leytonstone high road, were still waiting, its all talk, Tesco Metro is a start, maybe another 10 years before you get another clean looking shop there, we used to have nice shops along there years ago. SXH
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9:19am Thu 29 Nov 12

RichieA70 says...

Stevo98 wrote:
I didn't know The Bell had been renovated? That part of the high road desperately needs refurbishment, although the old Loaded Dog is now an Eastern European restaurant I think.
Oops! I was referring to The Bell in Walthamstow (Bell Corner). Well worth a visit, it's been transformed.
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: I didn't know The Bell had been renovated? That part of the high road desperately needs refurbishment, although the old Loaded Dog is now an Eastern European restaurant I think.[/p][/quote]Oops! I was referring to The Bell in Walthamstow (Bell Corner). Well worth a visit, it's been transformed. RichieA70
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9:56am Thu 29 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

stickmanny wrote:
Cornbeefur has to keep his nose clean as he's on a warning from the editor

:-)
Am I?

How would you know?

Are you the Editor's Tea Boy?

These pubs need support from locals regularly.

You have to support a pub 365 days a year not just when Aunty Edna stays over or a gang of American blokes that you met on your holidays, visit.
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: Cornbeefur has to keep his nose clean as he's on a warning from the editor :-)[/p][/quote]Am I? How would you know? Are you the Editor's Tea Boy? These pubs need support from locals regularly. You have to support a pub 365 days a year not just when Aunty Edna stays over or a gang of American blokes that you met on your holidays, visit. Cornbeefur
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11:58am Thu 29 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

RichieA70 wrote:
Stevo98 wrote:
I didn't know The Bell had been renovated? That part of the high road desperately needs refurbishment, although the old Loaded Dog is now an Eastern European restaurant I think.
Oops! I was referring to The Bell in Walthamstow (Bell Corner). Well worth a visit, it's been transformed.
Oh, beg your pardon. I doubt Wetherspoons would take over the Croppy Acre or one of the other derelict boozers because they already have a presence at the top of the High Road and at Stratford. Maybe another brave pub chain who are willing to spearhead improving the forgotten southern end of Leytonstone High Road. Landlords who couldn't care less are a problem down there, grotty flats with grubby net curtains.
[quote][p][bold]RichieA70[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: I didn't know The Bell had been renovated? That part of the high road desperately needs refurbishment, although the old Loaded Dog is now an Eastern European restaurant I think.[/p][/quote]Oops! I was referring to The Bell in Walthamstow (Bell Corner). Well worth a visit, it's been transformed.[/p][/quote]Oh, beg your pardon. I doubt Wetherspoons would take over the Croppy Acre or one of the other derelict boozers because they already have a presence at the top of the High Road and at Stratford. Maybe another brave pub chain who are willing to spearhead improving the forgotten southern end of Leytonstone High Road. Landlords who couldn't care less are a problem down there, grotty flats with grubby net curtains. Stevo98
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12:20pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

Or even another smashing restaurant like Sing Buri, best Thai food in East London. At the moment it feels like there's a real disconnect between the top of the high road and the bottom, Maryland is going to see a lot of development in the next 5 years and that corner is horrible, with the motorway-style barriers and, ahem, massage parlours. I know the cops shut down a lot of brothels in the run-up to the games, I always wondered why the nail bar near the railway bridge was so popular with middle aged men..

Lincolns is going to be flats, the petrol station was turned into flats, uninspired architecture and 1 or 2 bed rabbit hutch apartments, be nice to see more retail or leisure development, get some life on the high road, a bit of pavement culture.
Or even another smashing restaurant like Sing Buri, best Thai food in East London. At the moment it feels like there's a real disconnect between the top of the high road and the bottom, Maryland is going to see a lot of development in the next 5 years and that corner is horrible, with the motorway-style barriers and, ahem, massage parlours. I know the cops shut down a lot of brothels in the run-up to the games, I always wondered why the nail bar near the railway bridge was so popular with middle aged men.. Lincolns is going to be flats, the petrol station was turned into flats, uninspired architecture and 1 or 2 bed rabbit hutch apartments, be nice to see more retail or leisure development, get some life on the high road, a bit of pavement culture. Stevo98
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12:22pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

the nail bar near the railway bridge

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the nail bar near the railway bridge http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 1384487/Lyubov-Clyde -How-Ukrainian-nail- bar-blonde-English-b eau-68-millions-brot hels.html Stevo98
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12:46pm Thu 29 Nov 12

SXH says...

Stevo98 I agree with you, south Leytonstone has been neglected for years,
Stevo98 I agree with you, south Leytonstone has been neglected for years, SXH
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1:43pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Stevo98 says...

SXH wrote:
Stevo98 I agree with you, south Leytonstone has been neglected for years,
Turn right out of Stratford Station and you have the largest urban park in Europe for 150 years, the largest mall by area in Europe and world class sporting facilities. Turn left and you have the grotty area around Maryland and rancid chicken burger shops and dodgy kebab shops with hoodies hanging around outside.
[quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: Stevo98 I agree with you, south Leytonstone has been neglected for years,[/p][/quote]Turn right out of Stratford Station and you have the largest urban park in Europe for 150 years, the largest mall by area in Europe and world class sporting facilities. Turn left and you have the grotty area around Maryland and rancid chicken burger shops and dodgy kebab shops with hoodies hanging around outside. Stevo98
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12:23pm Fri 30 Nov 12

stickmanny says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
stickmanny wrote:
Cornbeefur has to keep his nose clean as he's on a warning from the editor

:-)
Am I?

How would you know?

Are you the Editor's Tea Boy?

These pubs need support from locals regularly.

You have to support a pub 365 days a year not just when Aunty Edna stays over or a gang of American blokes that you met on your holidays, visit.
Am I? Yes

How would you know? Because I am the Editor's Tea Boy

Fully agree with your other points
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: Cornbeefur has to keep his nose clean as he's on a warning from the editor :-)[/p][/quote]Am I? How would you know? Are you the Editor's Tea Boy? These pubs need support from locals regularly. You have to support a pub 365 days a year not just when Aunty Edna stays over or a gang of American blokes that you met on your holidays, visit.[/p][/quote]Am I? Yes How would you know? Because I am the Editor's Tea Boy Fully agree with your other points stickmanny
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7:33pm Fri 30 Nov 12

mdj says...

' WFC think Leytonstone ends at the railway bridge.'
I shan't detail again why I believe that stagnation suits the regime in charge very well, but can only agree. Perhaps this area would get better attention if it were in Newham.
' WFC think Leytonstone ends at the railway bridge.' I shan't detail again why I believe that stagnation suits the regime in charge very well, but can only agree. Perhaps this area would get better attention if it were in Newham. mdj
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7:11am Sat 1 Dec 12

MonawerFarooq says...

MDJ may just be onto something there.
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However.

I detest the sight of vomit (in the morning) on the humble pavements of Leytonstone.
MDJ may just be onto something there. -------------------- --------- However. I detest the sight of vomit (in the morning) on the humble pavements of Leytonstone. MonawerFarooq
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10:34am Mon 3 Dec 12

Barnes79 says...

Does anyone know what stage the negotiations are on the Leyton Technical pub, now the application has been approved? Seems the Council are really dragging their feet on this, as with so many other things; we need to help new businesses get set up quick!
Does anyone know what stage the negotiations are on the Leyton Technical pub, now the application has been approved? Seems the Council are really dragging their feet on this, as with so many other things; we need to help new businesses get set up quick! Barnes79
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