Chingford families call for safety measures on "race track"

Jo Nash, Mick Milne, Lisa Slaughter, Kelly Kane, Connie Fletcher, Reginald Hanotu. Forground, Kenneth Airey, Wally Killmartin, Lynne Gardre, Brian Houchin and MP Iain Duncan Smith. at a dangerous corner in Gunners Grove, Chingford.

Jo Nash, Mick Milne, Lisa Slaughter, Kelly Kane, Connie Fletcher, Reginald Hanotu. Forground, Kenneth Airey, Wally Killmartin, Lynne Gardre, Brian Houchin and MP Iain Duncan Smith. at a dangerous corner in Gunners Grove, Chingford.

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Families living on a road they believe is being used as a racetrack by reckless boy racers are calling for action before someone is seriously hurt.

People living in Gunners Grove and Heathcote Grove in Chingford say there regluar crashes and near misses on the roads, which are also used as a rat run during the day.

But despite a number of cars into trees and gardens, they claim Waltham Forest Council has said it cannot do anything until; someone is killed.

A car crashed into a tree outside Lisa Slaughter's home on the corner of Gunners Grove.

The 43-year-old mother-of-one fears for the safety of her two-year-old son, Ellis.

She said: "It doesn’t bear thinking what could have happened if he was there.

"It’s just luck that no-one’s been hit yet. It’s scary how often cars come off the road and into someone’s garden or onto the pavement.

"The house opposite us, a car smashed into their back garden a while back. It’s outrageous, something needs to be done."

Neighbour Linda Williams, 49, often looks after her young nieces and nephews, and thinks the roads are part of a circuit used by boy racers, which also includes Larkshall and Endlebury Roads.

She said: "There were two cars racing and one went into a house here. Just a month before that a car went into a tree outside our home.

"It had bars inside the car like a rally car. It’s like a rally race course outside our homes, it’s ridiculous. The police have been out here so many times.

The area is a busy school route for parents and pupils walking to Larkswood Primary School in New Road and others visiting Chingford Mount Cemetery.

Households want safety measures such as speed bumps or barriers to prevent cars coming off the road.

They spoke to Chingford MP Iain Duncan Smith about the problem.

He said: "It is very clear to me that this is a very dangeorus corner. I have written to Keith Hanshaw at the council to ask for some traffic calming measures to be introduced - whether they be sleeping policemen or speed cameras.W"

Crash statistics were not made avaialble at the time of going to press.

A council spokesman said: "The council recently implemented a traffic improvement scheme in the Hatch Lane and Longshaw Road area, which has successfully reduced vehicle speeds near to a primary school and the local shopping centre.

"Transport for London funding has been successfully secured for the investigation, design, consultation, and the potential implementation of road safety improvements along Larkswood Road and in the Heathcote Grove area."

 

 

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4:56pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Speeding must be curbed.

Chicanes, speed humps, Zebra Crossings, Traffic Lights, random checks all a must these days.

Some drivers wear the wrong footwear namely high heels and platform shoes that get caught up in the pedals and eyesight, poorly checked with cataracts and so on makes accidents waiting to occur.

Police need to get out more and patrol and police the street.
Speeding must be curbed. Chicanes, speed humps, Zebra Crossings, Traffic Lights, random checks all a must these days. Some drivers wear the wrong footwear namely high heels and platform shoes that get caught up in the pedals and eyesight, poorly checked with cataracts and so on makes accidents waiting to occur. Police need to get out more and patrol and police the street. Cornbeefur
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6:22pm Tue 12 Feb 13

SXH says...

The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks.

I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip, SXH
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8:11pm Tue 12 Feb 13

leyton_man says...

I tried to get the council to stop a right turn onto lea bridge road to help stop cars racing through as a shortcut. They said as there were no injuries reported they wouldn't do anything.
So there you go, sadly the council will want a fatality first.
And as for speed bumps, as someone who lived between two bumps, listening to vans and taxis scream their diesel engines between them for 16 hours a day is no fun either.
And to pre-empt any 'have you got proof' comments, yes, the council wrote and told me their reasoning.
I tried to get the council to stop a right turn onto lea bridge road to help stop cars racing through as a shortcut. They said as there were no injuries reported they wouldn't do anything. So there you go, sadly the council will want a fatality first. And as for speed bumps, as someone who lived between two bumps, listening to vans and taxis scream their diesel engines between them for 16 hours a day is no fun either. And to pre-empt any 'have you got proof' comments, yes, the council wrote and told me their reasoning. leyton_man
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10:19pm Tue 12 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

SXH wrote:
The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks.

I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:-


http://www.stuff.co.

nz/motoring/7534877/

Wrong-footwear-can-k

ill


http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/news/article-

2213806/Newport-Harb

our-Women-killed-dea

dly-road-accident-wr

ong-turn-sent-plungi

ng-harbour.html#axzz

2KdKq7Qsj



http://www.youclaim.

co.uk/car/shoes-and-

road-accident-compen

sation.htm


I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.
[quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,[/p][/quote]No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day. Cornbeefur
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2:28am Wed 13 Feb 13

barbus44 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote:
The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks.

I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:-


http://www.stuff.co.


nz/motoring/7534877/


Wrong-footwear-can-k


ill


http://www.dailymail


.co.uk/news/article-


2213806/Newport-Harb


our-Women-killed-dea


dly-road-accident-wr


ong-turn-sent-plungi


ng-harbour.html#axzz


2KdKq7Qsj



http://www.youclaim.


co.uk/car/shoes-and-


road-accident-compen


sation.htm


I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.
I think many of us would rather wish you a happy valentines day massacre!
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,[/p][/quote]No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.[/p][/quote]I think many of us would rather wish you a happy valentines day massacre! barbus44
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10:04am Wed 13 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

barbus44 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote:
The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks.

I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:-


http://www.stuff.co.



nz/motoring/7534877/



Wrong-footwear-can-k



ill


http://www.dailymail



.co.uk/news/article-



2213806/Newport-Harb



our-Women-killed-dea



dly-road-accident-wr



ong-turn-sent-plungi



ng-harbour.html#axzz



2KdKq7Qsj



http://www.youclaim.



co.uk/car/shoes-and-



road-accident-compen



sation.htm


I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.
I think many of us would rather wish you a happy valentines day massacre!
Why?

Because I have shown why inappropriate shoes are dangerous when driving a motor car?
[quote][p][bold]barbus44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,[/p][/quote]No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.[/p][/quote]I think many of us would rather wish you a happy valentines day massacre![/p][/quote]Why? Because I have shown why inappropriate shoes are dangerous when driving a motor car? Cornbeefur
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11:48am Wed 13 Feb 13

GDiamond says...

I have lived on Heathcote Grove my entire life and have seen no evidence of a "race track". Joe Curtis has, intentionally or not, misconstrued Lucy William's words. If we do have more accidents, it may be because this group of small roads are a convenient route to numerous local areas, so a disproportionately high amount of cars pass through - an issue accentuated by the exorbitant decision to allow the 397 bus to drive through narrow Chingford Ave.
I have lived on Heathcote Grove my entire life and have seen no evidence of a "race track". Joe Curtis has, intentionally or not, misconstrued Lucy William's words. If we do have more accidents, it may be because this group of small roads are a convenient route to numerous local areas, so a disproportionately high amount of cars pass through - an issue accentuated by the exorbitant decision to allow the 397 bus to drive through narrow Chingford Ave. GDiamond
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3:29pm Wed 13 Feb 13

SXH says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.
Advice from you? what a joker you are.

Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets,
This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story.

Keep your valentines.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,[/p][/quote]No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.[/p][/quote]Advice from you? what a joker you are. Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets, This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story. Keep your valentines. SXH
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7:38pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Alan_1976 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.
Advice from you? what a joker you are.

Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets,
This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story.

Keep your valentines.
Have you read the articles?

If you care to, you will see how foolish footwear can risk lives.

You are a Nodder as you agree with popular thought only and have no mind of your own.

A wise man can learn from a fool but a fool can never learn from a wise man.

Muppet is a Chav word so at least I am correct there.
The word muppet was invented by Jim Henson and comes from the combination of the word Marionette and Puppet. It is generally used to describe those who act in a foolish manner. It is not considered offensive.

"Chav" however is considered by most to be a term that is deeply offensive and patronising in use.

Your choice of language says much about your character.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,[/p][/quote]No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.[/p][/quote]Advice from you? what a joker you are. Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets, This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story. Keep your valentines.[/p][/quote]Have you read the articles? If you care to, you will see how foolish footwear can risk lives. You are a Nodder as you agree with popular thought only and have no mind of your own. A wise man can learn from a fool but a fool can never learn from a wise man. Muppet is a Chav word so at least I am correct there.[/p][/quote]The word muppet was invented by Jim Henson and comes from the combination of the word Marionette and Puppet. It is generally used to describe those who act in a foolish manner. It is not considered offensive. "Chav" however is considered by most to be a term that is deeply offensive and patronising in use. Your choice of language says much about your character. Alan_1976
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9:07pm Wed 13 Feb 13

SXH says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.
Advice from you? what a joker you are. Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets, This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story. Keep your valentines.
Have you read the articles? If you care to, you will see how foolish footwear can risk lives. You are a Nodder as you agree with popular thought only and have no mind of your own. A wise man can learn from a fool but a fool can never learn from a wise man. Muppet is a Chav word so at least I am correct there.
Cornbeefur
Please do us all a favour, stop all your insults, Thank you
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,[/p][/quote]No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.[/p][/quote]Advice from you? what a joker you are. Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets, This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story. Keep your valentines.[/p][/quote]Have you read the articles? If you care to, you will see how foolish footwear can risk lives. You are a Nodder as you agree with popular thought only and have no mind of your own. A wise man can learn from a fool but a fool can never learn from a wise man. Muppet is a Chav word so at least I am correct there.[/p][/quote]Cornbeefur Please do us all a favour, stop all your insults, Thank you SXH
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12:06am Thu 14 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,
No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.
Advice from you? what a joker you are.

Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets,
This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story.

Keep your valentines.
Have you read the articles?

If you care to, you will see how foolish footwear can risk lives.

You are a Nodder as you agree with popular thought only and have no mind of your own.

A wise man can learn from a fool but a fool can never learn from a wise man.

Muppet is a Chav word so at least I am correct there.
The word muppet was invented by Jim Henson and comes from the combination of the word Marionette and Puppet. It is generally used to describe those who act in a foolish manner. It is not considered offensive.

"Chav" however is considered by most to be a term that is deeply offensive and patronising in use.

Your choice of language says much about your character.
Trolling yet again? No input anywhere, just trolling me, sad.
[quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: The articles says BOY racers, stop your sexist remarks. I drive wearing heels there is no law against it, get a grip,[/p][/quote]No, you need to 'get a grip' of your footwear, Madam as wearing inappropriate footwear is dangerous and may affect your insurance and claims. Very perilous, take a look at the following articles and you will educate yourself:- http://www.stuff.co. nz/motoring/7534877/ Wrong-footwear-can-k ill http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2213806/Newport-Harb our-Women-killed-dea dly-road-accident-wr ong-turn-sent-plungi ng-harbour.html#axzz 2KdKq7Qsj http://www.youclaim. co.uk/car/shoes-and- road-accident-compen sation.htm I hope you are clever enough to learn from my advice and may I take this opportunity to wish you a splendid Valentines Day.[/p][/quote]Advice from you? what a joker you are. Men also wear heels, i dont need to be educated by muppets, This story has nothing to do with your comments, you just troll every story. Keep your valentines.[/p][/quote]Have you read the articles? If you care to, you will see how foolish footwear can risk lives. You are a Nodder as you agree with popular thought only and have no mind of your own. A wise man can learn from a fool but a fool can never learn from a wise man. Muppet is a Chav word so at least I am correct there.[/p][/quote]The word muppet was invented by Jim Henson and comes from the combination of the word Marionette and Puppet. It is generally used to describe those who act in a foolish manner. It is not considered offensive. "Chav" however is considered by most to be a term that is deeply offensive and patronising in use. Your choice of language says much about your character.[/p][/quote]Trolling yet again? No input anywhere, just trolling me, sad. Cornbeefur
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7:18am Thu 14 Feb 13

Alan_1976 says...

I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission.

I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.
I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission. I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own. Alan_1976
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1:33pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Alan_1976 wrote:
I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission.

I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.
Yet more trolling and stalking of me.

I am not the only person to notice either.
[quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission. I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.[/p][/quote]Yet more trolling and stalking of me. I am not the only person to notice either. Cornbeefur
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2:21pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Alan_1976 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission.

I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.
Yet more trolling and stalking of me.

I am not the only person to notice either.
You seem unable to carry out an adult discussion.

If you cannot actually reply sensibly to critiques of the points you make then I suggest you say nothing or perhaps provide some justification for what you are saying.

If you keep replying to posts then do not criticise any who reply in turn. Otherwise you are suppressing free discussion.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission. I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.[/p][/quote]Yet more trolling and stalking of me. I am not the only person to notice either.[/p][/quote]You seem unable to carry out an adult discussion. If you cannot actually reply sensibly to critiques of the points you make then I suggest you say nothing or perhaps provide some justification for what you are saying. If you keep replying to posts then do not criticise any who reply in turn. Otherwise you are suppressing free discussion. Alan_1976
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4:50pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission.

I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.
Yet more trolling and stalking of me.

I am not the only person to notice either.
You seem unable to carry out an adult discussion.

If you cannot actually reply sensibly to critiques of the points you make then I suggest you say nothing or perhaps provide some justification for what you are saying.

If you keep replying to posts then do not criticise any who reply in turn. Otherwise you are suppressing free discussion.
Troll on
[quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission. I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.[/p][/quote]Yet more trolling and stalking of me. I am not the only person to notice either.[/p][/quote]You seem unable to carry out an adult discussion. If you cannot actually reply sensibly to critiques of the points you make then I suggest you say nothing or perhaps provide some justification for what you are saying. If you keep replying to posts then do not criticise any who reply in turn. Otherwise you are suppressing free discussion.[/p][/quote]Troll on Cornbeefur
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5:02pm Fri 15 Feb 13

Alan_1976 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission.

I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.
Yet more trolling and stalking of me.

I am not the only person to notice either.
You seem unable to carry out an adult discussion.

If you cannot actually reply sensibly to critiques of the points you make then I suggest you say nothing or perhaps provide some justification for what you are saying.

If you keep replying to posts then do not criticise any who reply in turn. Otherwise you are suppressing free discussion.
Troll on
Do you have anything to add to this discussion other than continuously posting the same tired nonsense?

Clearly not.

You have been asked to provide statistics to support your claims on many threads. You have produced none.

All you can do is hope to chase people away by repeated boring comments. Good luck with that.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: I think we can yet again take a comment of yours where you fail to address the points raised as an admission. I address your use of offensive terms. You offer nothing but insults. I suggest that you maybe take some time away from the site as you seem awfully sensitive to alternate viewpoints from your own.[/p][/quote]Yet more trolling and stalking of me. I am not the only person to notice either.[/p][/quote]You seem unable to carry out an adult discussion. If you cannot actually reply sensibly to critiques of the points you make then I suggest you say nothing or perhaps provide some justification for what you are saying. If you keep replying to posts then do not criticise any who reply in turn. Otherwise you are suppressing free discussion.[/p][/quote]Troll on[/p][/quote]Do you have anything to add to this discussion other than continuously posting the same tired nonsense? Clearly not. You have been asked to provide statistics to support your claims on many threads. You have produced none. All you can do is hope to chase people away by repeated boring comments. Good luck with that. Alan_1976
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10:38pm Mon 18 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Troll on again

I have posted statistics and articles.

Maybe you should check yourself out for undiagnosed cataracts?
Troll on again I have posted statistics and articles. Maybe you should check yourself out for undiagnosed cataracts? Cornbeefur
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7:06am Tue 19 Feb 13

Alan_1976 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Troll on again

I have posted statistics and articles.

Maybe you should check yourself out for undiagnosed cataracts?
As stated in another article you have posted one article about flip flops in New Zealand, one about a crash caused by dense fog and another from a no win no fee lawyer firm.

So you have not posted anything to support your claims. The stats for accidents in the UK show your flights of fantasy to be just that.

You also seem to have developed a bizarre verbal tic where you keep using phrases that have no contextual meaning.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: Troll on again I have posted statistics and articles. Maybe you should check yourself out for undiagnosed cataracts?[/p][/quote]As stated in another article you have posted one article about flip flops in New Zealand, one about a crash caused by dense fog and another from a no win no fee lawyer firm. So you have not posted anything to support your claims. The stats for accidents in the UK show your flights of fantasy to be just that. You also seem to have developed a bizarre verbal tic where you keep using phrases that have no contextual meaning. Alan_1976
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1:34pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Troll on again

I have posted statistics and articles.

Maybe you should check yourself out for undiagnosed cataracts?
As stated in another article you have posted one article about flip flops in New Zealand, one about a crash caused by dense fog and another from a no win no fee lawyer firm.

So you have not posted anything to support your claims. The stats for accidents in the UK show your flights of fantasy to be just that.

You also seem to have developed a bizarre verbal tic where you keep using phrases that have no contextual meaning.
Trolling again?
[quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: Troll on again I have posted statistics and articles. Maybe you should check yourself out for undiagnosed cataracts?[/p][/quote]As stated in another article you have posted one article about flip flops in New Zealand, one about a crash caused by dense fog and another from a no win no fee lawyer firm. So you have not posted anything to support your claims. The stats for accidents in the UK show your flights of fantasy to be just that. You also seem to have developed a bizarre verbal tic where you keep using phrases that have no contextual meaning.[/p][/quote]Trolling again? Cornbeefur
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