Soup kitchen threatened with eviction 'to make way for development'

The mobile soup kitchen in Mission Grove car park, Walthamstow.

The mobile soup kitchen in Mission Grove car park, Walthamstow.

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Organisers of a mobile soup kitchen say they are being evicted from Walthamstow due to a council attempt to "sanitise" the town centre of homeless people ahead of a new development.

The Christian Kitchen group has been providing hot meals seven days a week to the borough's needy at Mission Grove car park for 20 years. 

But they were horrified when Waltham Forest Council and police reportedly said they must relocate by March 14 before work begins on building 121 homes and multiplex cinema at the nearby Arcade Site in April.

The council and police said they believed the soup kitchen attracted anti-social behaviour and homeless people to the area.

Mission Grove is also near the site of a proposed development with a large Morrisons supermarket and 240 flats.

But Christian Kitchen denies the claims and says the presence of homeless people is what made them choose the location in the first place.

Committee member Jennifer Ford said they were considering legal action.  

She said: “If we are forced to move we will find it almost impossible to continue, and who knows what will happen to the people who rely on us.  

“We have reason to believe they are looking to 'sanitise' the area ahead of the huge development taking place”.

The council has proposed the kitchen moves to a car park on the Argyle Business Estate, Leyton, however Christian Kitchen says it is also due to be sold off and redeveloped.  

They say another offered alternative, behind the Chingford Holiday Inn in Walthamstow Avenue, is isolated and too far from Mission Grove.  

The Guardian is awaiting a response from the council and police.  

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4:25pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Tom Thumb says...

It is very difficult to understand the council's motivation here since the soup kitchen is a very considerable distance from the arcade site, and is not exactly getting in the way of developing the site.
Anti-social behaviour is hardly restricted to the poorest members of society. I recently watched a very smartly dressed man in an expensive car lower his window and deposit a sack of rubbish into the street.
I don't think its the soup kitchen clientele who go around dumping mattresses.
Shame on the local Labour Party for hounding the disadvantaged in this way.
It is very difficult to understand the council's motivation here since the soup kitchen is a very considerable distance from the arcade site, and is not exactly getting in the way of developing the site. Anti-social behaviour is hardly restricted to the poorest members of society. I recently watched a very smartly dressed man in an expensive car lower his window and deposit a sack of rubbish into the street. I don't think its the soup kitchen clientele who go around dumping mattresses. Shame on the local Labour Party for hounding the disadvantaged in this way. Tom Thumb
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5:15pm Thu 21 Feb 13

sunn says...

And shame on the Tories for the huge increase in the number of homeless people in the first place.
And shame on the Tories for the huge increase in the number of homeless people in the first place. sunn
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5:42pm Thu 21 Feb 13

mdj says...

Sweeping the streets of untidy people is the hallmark of oppressive regimes, especially when visitors are expected.
The first task of every Olympic programme is to bus the poor and the gypsies out of town, for example.
Since the van (this is quite an old picture, I believe) has been functioning 20 years, homelessness is not a novelty here, and many of the clients are from eastern Europe; so perhaps we should be blaming our membership of the EU?
The Argall Estate already houses a day shelter, located in a pentecostal church building, which does valuable work.
Since this is a convenient central location known to many, is the Council's motive simply to sweep things under the carpet?
Sweeping the streets of untidy people is the hallmark of oppressive regimes, especially when visitors are expected. The first task of every Olympic programme is to bus the poor and the gypsies out of town, for example. Since the van (this is quite an old picture, I believe) has been functioning 20 years, homelessness is not a novelty here, and many of the clients are from eastern Europe; so perhaps we should be blaming our membership of the EU? The Argall Estate already houses a day shelter, located in a pentecostal church building, which does valuable work. Since this is a convenient central location known to many, is the Council's motive simply to sweep things under the carpet? mdj
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6:23pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Techno3 says...

The Christian Kitchen does an excellent job providing free food as a short-term fix for hungry people, some of whom may even be homeless.

I can think of a number of reason why the van might be invited to move on or the Christians be more selective in their largess, (I also suspect they are magnet for some people to gather together who the council would rather we all ignore), but the development of the Arcade site is not one of them. It is a good 10 to 15 minute walk away.

Whoever is putting that excuse forward has a very limited understanding of the geography of the local area. The fact he or she apparently works for our police force or council and is so ignorant of the local neighbourhood speaks volumes to me.
The Christian Kitchen does an excellent job providing free food as a short-term fix for hungry people, some of whom may even be homeless. I can think of a number of reason why the van might be invited to move on or the Christians be more selective in their largess, (I also suspect they are magnet for some people to gather together who the council would rather we all ignore), but the development of the Arcade site is not one of them. It is a good 10 to 15 minute walk away. Whoever is putting that excuse forward has a very limited understanding of the geography of the local area. The fact he or she apparently works for our police force or council and is so ignorant of the local neighbourhood speaks volumes to me. Techno3
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6:36pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Helen, Walthamstow says...

South Grove is the site earmarked or the Morrisons store and housing development. Mission Grove, which the soup kitchen goes to, is separated from it by a few hundred yards and a railway line.

Might this mean that another, as yet unpublicised, development is planned for Mission Grove?
South Grove is the site earmarked or the Morrisons store and housing development. Mission Grove, which the soup kitchen goes to, is separated from it by a few hundred yards and a railway line. Might this mean that another, as yet unpublicised, development is planned for Mission Grove? Helen, Walthamstow
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6:41pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Techno3 says...

Helen, Walthamstow wrote:
South Grove is the site earmarked or the Morrisons store and housing development. Mission Grove, which the soup kitchen goes to, is separated from it by a few hundred yards and a railway line.

Might this mean that another, as yet unpublicised, development is planned for Mission Grove?
The Dominion cinema is up for sale. The nearby Christian Kitchen must make it harder for the estate agents to pretend the building is a good deal at £1.5million.

I wonder if Stretton's have had words with thier pals at the council?
[quote][p][bold]Helen, Walthamstow[/bold] wrote: South Grove is the site earmarked or the Morrisons store and housing development. Mission Grove, which the soup kitchen goes to, is separated from it by a few hundred yards and a railway line. Might this mean that another, as yet unpublicised, development is planned for Mission Grove?[/p][/quote]The Dominion cinema is up for sale. The nearby Christian Kitchen must make it harder for the estate agents to pretend the building is a good deal at £1.5million. I wonder if Stretton's have had words with thier pals at the council? Techno3
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7:42pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Tom Thumb says...

sunn wrote:
And shame on the Tories for the huge increase in the number of homeless people in the first place.
This crude attempt to divert blame away from the local Labour council is not convincing. It is the local Labour Party which is hounding the soup kitchen, not the Tories.
[quote][p][bold]sunn[/bold] wrote: And shame on the Tories for the huge increase in the number of homeless people in the first place.[/p][/quote]This crude attempt to divert blame away from the local Labour council is not convincing. It is the local Labour Party which is hounding the soup kitchen, not the Tories. Tom Thumb
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7:50pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Tom Thumb says...

This deplorable episode is consistent with the council's dreams of gentrifying the area. But that dream is doomed to founder on the council's enthusiasm for intensive cheap housing and a transient population. A glance at all the betting shops, pound shops, charity shops and loan sharks indicates the true reality of Waltham Forest. The soup kitchen is likely to be needed more than ever in future years.
And frankly I doubt that the Hioliday Inn would be too enthusiastic about having its clientele displaced to the view from its guest rooms!
This deplorable episode is consistent with the council's dreams of gentrifying the area. But that dream is doomed to founder on the council's enthusiasm for intensive cheap housing and a transient population. A glance at all the betting shops, pound shops, charity shops and loan sharks indicates the true reality of Waltham Forest. The soup kitchen is likely to be needed more than ever in future years. And frankly I doubt that the Hioliday Inn would be too enthusiastic about having its clientele displaced to the view from its guest rooms! Tom Thumb
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10:23pm Thu 21 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop.

The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago.

The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success.

It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts.

Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End.

Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless.

A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening.

As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding?

What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'.

Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly.

The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ).
The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop. The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago. The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success. It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts. Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End. Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless. A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening. As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'. Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly. The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ). Cornbeefur
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10:34pm Thu 21 Feb 13

mdj says...

'This deplorable episode is consistent with the council's dreams of gentrifying the area..'

I don't agree with this diagnosis: the Council dreads the wrong kind of people moving in, who might disrupt their cosy vote-farm, but it's happening all the same. Cramming buy-to-let ghettos on to sites where people used to earn a living, is more their style. This imports unemployment and creates a benefit-drawing population supposedly 'adscripted', to use the correct feudal term, to the 'Party of the Poor' . The limits of this model are being shown in Tower Hamlets, where the serfs, imported at such effort, are perversely voting for non-Labour candidates.
When low-rent fascistic Judge Dredd initiatives (cracking down on public drinking, closing Caribbean takeaways - hear the dog-whistle there? - , prosecuting people for recycling cardboard boxes) start being paraded through the media, it just marks the turning of the seasons: election time is slowly heaving over the horizon, and somebody is bigging themselves up for a bid at Parliament.
'This deplorable episode is consistent with the council's dreams of gentrifying the area..' I don't agree with this diagnosis: the Council dreads the wrong kind of people moving in, who might disrupt their cosy vote-farm, but it's happening all the same. Cramming buy-to-let ghettos on to sites where people used to earn a living, is more their style. This imports unemployment and creates a benefit-drawing population supposedly 'adscripted', to use the correct feudal term, to the 'Party of the Poor' . The limits of this model are being shown in Tower Hamlets, where the serfs, imported at such effort, are perversely voting for non-Labour candidates. When low-rent fascistic Judge Dredd initiatives (cracking down on public drinking, closing Caribbean takeaways - hear the dog-whistle there? - , prosecuting people for recycling cardboard boxes) start being paraded through the media, it just marks the turning of the seasons: election time is slowly heaving over the horizon, and somebody is bigging themselves up for a bid at Parliament. mdj
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10:17am Fri 22 Feb 13

the dame says...

If CK is doing an excellent job in helping homeless or poor people, then the Council should support their work and not condemn it. Perhaps both the Council and the police would like to explain the real reasons for this change of circumstances. Let us have a little honesty for once. If the explanation is justifiable but the work that CK do is equally justifiable, then it is the Council's duty provide an alternative and accessible area for CK to continue their work of some 20 years as there is an obvious need.
If CK is doing an excellent job in helping homeless or poor people, then the Council should support their work and not condemn it. Perhaps both the Council and the police would like to explain the real reasons for this change of circumstances. Let us have a little honesty for once. If the explanation is justifiable but the work that CK do is equally justifiable, then it is the Council's duty provide an alternative and accessible area for CK to continue their work of some 20 years as there is an obvious need. the dame
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11:01am Fri 22 Feb 13

Helen, Walthamstow says...

CB said earlier that a facility is needed to offer medical assistance, work support etc for homeless people.

Just such a facility is available at The Branches with its night shelter in Forest Road. But people can't be forced to go there, it does not have elastic walls, and the CK is still needed for those who either don't want to go there or can't for a variety of reasons.
CB said earlier that a facility is needed to offer medical assistance, work support etc for homeless people. Just such a facility is available at The Branches with its night shelter in Forest Road. But people can't be forced to go there, it does not have elastic walls, and the CK is still needed for those who either don't want to go there or can't for a variety of reasons. Helen, Walthamstow
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11:47am Fri 22 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Helen, Walthamstow wrote:
CB said earlier that a facility is needed to offer medical assistance, work support etc for homeless people.

Just such a facility is available at The Branches with its night shelter in Forest Road. But people can't be forced to go there, it does not have elastic walls, and the CK is still needed for those who either don't want to go there or can't for a variety of reasons.
Yes exactly, the CK is a starting point for them and they can be directed to other agencies if they ask for further help or seem to require it.
[quote][p][bold]Helen, Walthamstow[/bold] wrote: CB said earlier that a facility is needed to offer medical assistance, work support etc for homeless people. Just such a facility is available at The Branches with its night shelter in Forest Road. But people can't be forced to go there, it does not have elastic walls, and the CK is still needed for those who either don't want to go there or can't for a variety of reasons.[/p][/quote]Yes exactly, the CK is a starting point for them and they can be directed to other agencies if they ask for further help or seem to require it. Cornbeefur
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11:54pm Fri 22 Feb 13

SXH says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop. The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago. The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success. It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts. Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End. Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless. A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening. As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'. Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly. The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ).
Excuse me i have not even made a comment here? when did i blame the tories?

Cornbeefur said:
As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding?

Now apologies.or keep off the drink.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop. The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago. The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success. It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts. Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End. Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless. A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening. As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'. Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly. The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ).[/p][/quote]Excuse me i have not even made a comment here? when did i blame the tories? Cornbeefur said: As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? Now apologies.or keep off the drink. SXH
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7:15pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

SXH wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop. The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago. The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success. It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts. Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End. Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless. A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening. As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'. Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly. The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ).
Excuse me i have not even made a comment here? when did i blame the tories?

Cornbeefur said:
As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding?

Now apologies.or keep off the drink.
I apologise if you did not say it but thought you did sorry.
[quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop. The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago. The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success. It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts. Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End. Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless. A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening. As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'. Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly. The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ).[/p][/quote]Excuse me i have not even made a comment here? when did i blame the tories? Cornbeefur said: As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? Now apologies.or keep off the drink.[/p][/quote]I apologise if you did not say it but thought you did sorry. Cornbeefur
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7:44pm Sun 24 Feb 13

SXH says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
SXH wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote: The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop. The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago. The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success. It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts. Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End. Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless. A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening. As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'. Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly. The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ).
Excuse me i have not even made a comment here? when did i blame the tories? Cornbeefur said: As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? Now apologies.or keep off the drink.
I apologise if you did not say it but thought you did sorry.
Try reading who posted before making such accusations.

I apologise if you did not say it but thought you did sorry

If i did not? you know i did not you still continue. your never sorry
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SXH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: The Christian Kitchen does not have any Lease on this Site or any perpetual right to remain here, so with this in mind why not find them a more useful site? It is a Charity with hardly any running costs as such. It is a Charity but most of the food is through donations and fund raising and does not have to pay rent and rates like a High Street shop. The CK is a fantastic facility set up as mentioned roughly 20 years ago. The problem is that it has been affected by it's own success. It used to have two sites, one near the Job Centre in Leyonstone and one in the Current location or thereabouts. Word spread and people began using the facility (staffed entirely by volunteers) and people travel from all around, different Boroughs and even from up the West End. Whatever the reasons, Arcade site, paranoia Politics, this will not help the homeless. A non-intrusive site must be found as there have been numerous problems associated with the facility, especially when it has moved on after the evening. As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? What did New Labour do to alleviate the problem? They came to power in 1997 and in that time the CK became more and more in demand. They opened up the Borders and recklessly sold the sovereignty away from the UK enabling millions of migrants in. here for economic reasons to 'have a better life'. Once here, these people soon established that work was not in abundance and the cost of living was so high that all they could do is resort to sleeping on the streets or if they could afford a substandard flat, room or shed in a garden, could not afford to eat properly. The CK is a great service to have but must be found a place where those who need to use it are also offered the support and other facilities that they desperately need in life (Medical assistance, work support and on going counselling for drink and drug issues that they may have ).[/p][/quote]Excuse me i have not even made a comment here? when did i blame the tories? Cornbeefur said: As for blaming the Tories about increased Homeless SXH, are you kidding? Now apologies.or keep off the drink.[/p][/quote]I apologise if you did not say it but thought you did sorry.[/p][/quote]Try reading who posted before making such accusations. I apologise if you did not say it but thought you did sorry If i did not? you know i did not you still continue. your never sorry SXH
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7:21am Mon 25 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

It would appear that this policy of trying to rid the area of the needy is a veiled attempt at cleansing the area of the needy to gentrify the area with the new housing and flats of which, non will be offered to the homeless who attend the CK for a drop of soup on these cold nights.
It would appear that this policy of trying to rid the area of the needy is a veiled attempt at cleansing the area of the needy to gentrify the area with the new housing and flats of which, non will be offered to the homeless who attend the CK for a drop of soup on these cold nights. Cornbeefur
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