Mother in dispute with church over North Weald home

Mother in dispute with church over 'unhealthy' home

Amy Harty with Teddy, one, and Rose, three and the hole in their bathroom floor

Amy Harty with children Rose and Teddy and the hole in bathroom floor.

Amy Harty outside her home.

Dangerous stairs.

View of the bathroom from kitchen.

The walls need repairs.

First published in News
Last updated
East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Photograph of the Author by , Sub Editor

An unholy row has erupted over a church-owned cottage that a young mother says is making her two children ill.

Amy Harty, 27, moved into the house near St Andrew’s church in North Weald in November with her three-year-old daughter Rose and one-year-old son Teddy.

Within minutes of handing over the deposit on the Vicarage Lane house, which is owned by the parochial church council, she noticed rodent droppings on the floor and in kitchen drawers.

After a week there, she said the toilet overflowed for the first time, flooding water into the kitchen and making the floor so soft she put her foot through it.

The nursery nurse said: “The toilet has overflowed on three occasions and there was a dip in the floor where one area got more drenched than others.

“My foot went straight through the MDF on top of the floorboards to the kitchen.

“I’ve been scared to use the toilet since.”

She said that despite telling the church's estate agent about this and a host of other problems from a broken oven to damp, none had been fully put right.

She added: “My children have had sickness and diarrhoea six times each since living here.

“My GP said you can’t live with an infestation of vermin. I’ve trapped 20 in one week.”

She said she wanted to move out, but is now locked in a dispute over her deposit, as she has withheld part of her rent over the issues.

Steve Saunders, the church’s estate agent, said: “We’ve dealt with everything as it’s come up, but it seems whatever we do is not enough.

“We’ve had someone in to deal with the mice.”

He said the toilet was blocked with nappies and baby wipes, which Miss Harty denies, and has sent a handyman to the home to cover the hole in the floor.

He added: “Before Miss Harty moved in, we had new windows put in upstairs, a new back door, a new central heating system and it’s been re-wired.

“We’re not talking about a hovel.”

Comments (12)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

7:13pm Tue 26 Feb 13

amy.harty@btinternet.com says...

Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end!

I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter.

The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children!
e y
You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!!

I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone. amy.harty@btinternet.com
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Tue 26 Feb 13

ClifftonX says...

amy.harty@btinternet
.com
wrote:
Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end!

I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter.

The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children!
e y
You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!!

I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
Why don't you get someone in to sort the things out - like the rest of the population, rather than bleating to the paper?
[quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.[/p][/quote]Why don't you get someone in to sort the things out - like the rest of the population, rather than bleating to the paper? ClifftonX
  • Score: 0

7:51pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Alan_1976 says...

ClifftonX wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet

.com
wrote:
Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end!

I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter.

The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children!
e y
You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!!

I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
Why don't you get someone in to sort the things out - like the rest of the population, rather than bleating to the paper?
I think you missed the part about exhausting other avenues..
[quote][p][bold]ClifftonX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.[/p][/quote]Why don't you get someone in to sort the things out - like the rest of the population, rather than bleating to the paper?[/p][/quote]I think you missed the part about exhausting other avenues.. Alan_1976
  • Score: 0

11:21pm Tue 26 Feb 13

nicole89 says...

i think its disgusting what you and your children are going through and NO ONE should have to live in these conditions and i certainly dont think the queen would!!!!!!!!! i also feel disgusted by some of the comments clearly you people think its normal to live in these conditions and hate to think what your house is like, almost like hill billys!! and i am sure if she could have payed to have the problems fixed proffessionaly she would have!!!!! and none of you know the full extent of whats happend and to sit and judge someone for asking for help is outrageous!!!!!!!!!!
! about 15 mins of fame thats vulgar that a human being can put someone down like that!! a mum of 2 stuck in a hell house asking for help and you peple want to put her down!! shes tried to ask the estate agent to fix the problems as she has stated and still they have not helped and it is there duty to fix these problems!!!!! and to top it all the houe is owned by the curch this alone is disgusting that they would do this to a young mum with 2 babies!!!!!!! a CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think its disgusting what you and your children are going through and NO ONE should have to live in these conditions and i certainly dont think the queen would!!!!!!!!! i also feel disgusted by some of the comments clearly you people think its normal to live in these conditions and hate to think what your house is like, almost like hill billys!! and i am sure if she could have payed to have the problems fixed proffessionaly she would have!!!!! and none of you know the full extent of whats happend and to sit and judge someone for asking for help is outrageous!!!!!!!!!! ! about 15 mins of fame thats vulgar that a human being can put someone down like that!! a mum of 2 stuck in a hell house asking for help and you peple want to put her down!! shes tried to ask the estate agent to fix the problems as she has stated and still they have not helped and it is there duty to fix these problems!!!!! and to top it all the houe is owned by the curch this alone is disgusting that they would do this to a young mum with 2 babies!!!!!!! a CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!! nicole89
  • Score: 0

6:15am Wed 27 Feb 13

amy.harty@btinternet.com says...

Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.
For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html
Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below).

Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!!

The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out!

I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me.

Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me!
[quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.[/p][/quote]There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.[/p][/quote]For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html[/p][/quote]Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me! amy.harty@btinternet.com
  • Score: 0

6:36am Wed 27 Feb 13

amy.harty@btinternet.com says...

Alan, that link wouldn't load a page?
Alan, that link wouldn't load a page? amy.harty@btinternet.com
  • Score: 0

7:35am Wed 27 Feb 13

amy.harty@btinternet.com says...

Thank you Alan, I had a feeling it wasn't a genuine interested party making those comments. Whoever the person is they should realise that their hurtful comments could have severe effect on the targeted persons health and state of mind!

Has made me feel a lot better now that I have read your link.
Thank you Alan, I had a feeling it wasn't a genuine interested party making those comments. Whoever the person is they should realise that their hurtful comments could have severe effect on the targeted persons health and state of mind! Has made me feel a lot better now that I have read your link. amy.harty@btinternet.com
  • Score: 0

9:56am Wed 27 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

amy.harty@btinternet
.com
wrote:
Thank you Alan, I had a feeling it wasn't a genuine interested party making those comments. Whoever the person is they should realise that their hurtful comments could have severe effect on the targeted persons health and state of mind!

Has made me feel a lot better now that I have read your link.
I am a genuine interested party, if people set up a web page as they are Trolling me then that is their problem not mine.
[quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Thank you Alan, I had a feeling it wasn't a genuine interested party making those comments. Whoever the person is they should realise that their hurtful comments could have severe effect on the targeted persons health and state of mind! Has made me feel a lot better now that I have read your link.[/p][/quote]I am a genuine interested party, if people set up a web page as they are Trolling me then that is their problem not mine. Cornbeefur
  • Score: 0

3:03pm Wed 27 Feb 13

nicole89 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.
For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html
Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me!
How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.
yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.[/p][/quote]There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.[/p][/quote]For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html[/p][/quote]Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me![/p][/quote]How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.[/p][/quote]yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE. nicole89
  • Score: 0

4:01pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

nicole89 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.
For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html
Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me!
How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.
yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE.
She will have to have a good cause to withhold rent.

I worry about her judgement parading young babies in front of the world over a couple of mice and a hole. It was so bad and dangerous she was standing with her kids under it in one photo!
[quote][p][bold]nicole89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.[/p][/quote]There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.[/p][/quote]For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html[/p][/quote]Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me![/p][/quote]How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.[/p][/quote]yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE.[/p][/quote]She will have to have a good cause to withhold rent. I worry about her judgement parading young babies in front of the world over a couple of mice and a hole. It was so bad and dangerous she was standing with her kids under it in one photo! Cornbeefur
  • Score: 0

4:18pm Wed 27 Feb 13

nicole89 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
nicole89 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.
For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html
Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me!
How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.
yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE.
She will have to have a good cause to withhold rent. I worry about her judgement parading young babies in front of the world over a couple of mice and a hole. It was so bad and dangerous she was standing with her kids under it in one photo!
yea and like i have already said you do not know the full extent of what is happening or what a young mum is going through living in these conditions!!! and obviously does not take a genius to work out the photographer has got her to stand there!! her main concern is clearly her children and they have been ill due to this!!! and who are you to say her reasons for with holding rent are not good enough?? it is not you liing in the conditions!! it is not you up all hours nursing your children back to health when they are only going to be ill again!!!!!! you dont no wha kids put in there mouth or drop food and pick it up and eat it!!! im a mum and i know!! the house is running alive with vermain! the!! leaving there droppings and god knows what else!!!! a mouse or 2 any one can barely deal with let alone a nest full!!! how dangerous is it that your daughter can go to the bathroom and the floor falls through?? the walls are collapsing in the house?? and say one day her daughter fell through the actual ceiling and god forbid anything bad happend?? and here you are putting her down and telling her that shes using this as fame?? and the house is fine thats what happens when u live in that area?? its disgusting some of the comments!!! you can not judge someone till you yourself have walked in their shoes!!! and clearly you must be a man who would live like this?? and if you yourself had a daughter with two young children and no one was helping her and she had tried all other options and still was trapped in the house that was making her kids ill plus that can cause depression with them living conditions plus 2 kids WHO are constantly ill from the house!!! would you yourself tell her to just deal with it??
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nicole89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.[/p][/quote]There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.[/p][/quote]For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html[/p][/quote]Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me![/p][/quote]How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.[/p][/quote]yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE.[/p][/quote]She will have to have a good cause to withhold rent. I worry about her judgement parading young babies in front of the world over a couple of mice and a hole. It was so bad and dangerous she was standing with her kids under it in one photo![/p][/quote]yea and like i have already said you do not know the full extent of what is happening or what a young mum is going through living in these conditions!!! and obviously does not take a genius to work out the photographer has got her to stand there!! her main concern is clearly her children and they have been ill due to this!!! and who are you to say her reasons for with holding rent are not good enough?? it is not you liing in the conditions!! it is not you up all hours nursing your children back to health when they are only going to be ill again!!!!!! you dont no wha kids put in there mouth or drop food and pick it up and eat it!!! im a mum and i know!! the house is running alive with vermain! the!! leaving there droppings and god knows what else!!!! a mouse or 2 any one can barely deal with let alone a nest full!!! how dangerous is it that your daughter can go to the bathroom and the floor falls through?? the walls are collapsing in the house?? and say one day her daughter fell through the actual ceiling and god forbid anything bad happend?? and here you are putting her down and telling her that shes using this as fame?? and the house is fine thats what happens when u live in that area?? its disgusting some of the comments!!! you can not judge someone till you yourself have walked in their shoes!!! and clearly you must be a man who would live like this?? and if you yourself had a daughter with two young children and no one was helping her and she had tried all other options and still was trapped in the house that was making her kids ill plus that can cause depression with them living conditions plus 2 kids WHO are constantly ill from the house!!! would you yourself tell her to just deal with it?? nicole89
  • Score: 0

4:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13

nicole89 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
nicole89 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
nicole89 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
amy.harty@btinternet .com wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.
There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.
For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html
Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me!
How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.
yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE.
She will have to have a good cause to withhold rent. I worry about her judgement parading young babies in front of the world over a couple of mice and a hole. It was so bad and dangerous she was standing with her kids under it in one photo!
yea and like i have already said you do not know the full extent of what is happening or what a young mum is going through living in these conditions!!! and obviously does not take a genius to work out the photographer has got her to stand there!! her main concern is clearly her children and they have been ill due to this!!! and who are you to say her reasons for with holding rent are not good enough?? it is not you liing in the conditions!! it is not you up all hours nursing your children back to health when they are only going to be ill again!!!!!! you dont no wha kids put in there mouth or drop food and pick it up and eat it!!! im a mum and i know!! the house is running alive with vermain! the!! leaving there droppings and god knows what else!!!! a mouse or 2 any one can barely deal with let alone a nest full!!! how dangerous is it that your daughter can go to the bathroom and the floor falls through?? the walls are collapsing in the house?? and say one day her daughter fell through the actual ceiling and god forbid anything bad happend?? and here you are putting her down and telling her that shes using this as fame?? and the house is fine thats what happens when u live in that area?? its disgusting some of the comments!!! you can not judge someone till you yourself have walked in their shoes!!! and clearly you must be a man who would live like this?? and if you yourself had a daughter with two young children and no one was helping her and she had tried all other options and still was trapped in the house that was making her kids ill plus that can cause depression with them living conditions plus 2 kids WHO are constantly ill from the house!!! would you yourself tell her to just deal with it??
I saw a mouse,where? There on the stair Where on the stair? Right there A little mouse with clogs on, well, I declare Going clip-clippety-clop on the stair - oh yeah!
yea thats confirmed the arrogant vile person you are and you have nothing to say to what i have said!!! just goes to show you live a sad life to put a young girl down!!!! KARMA is a brilliant thing you see! and trust me when i say your time will come to endure worse! you never have the right to judge someone until you yourself have been through the exact same!
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nicole89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nicole89[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]amy.harty@btinternet .com[/bold] wrote: Why does anyone report these issues to the press, Ill tell you why, because they have exhausted all other avenues and are at their wits end! I doubt very much that the Queen would ever tolerate such poor living conditions or any other average person for that matter. The Vicar's wife herself stated in Church on Sunday, that she doesn't doubt for one minute that this house is making my children sick and that she wouldn't have touched this house with a barge pole if she's had two young children! e y You clearly think that the estate agent is being honest when he states I blocked the toilet with nappies and baby wipes! Absolutely ridiculous, why did they come and unblock it 3 times in one month if it was my fault it was blocking!! I do hope you are never unfortunate to come across such a terrible situation as I wouldn't want to wish this level of stress and upset on anyone.[/p][/quote]There are proper avenues to go through if you are disgruntled and the first port of call is not the Newspapers to get your picture (and your Children's photo's) for a 15 minutes of fame. have you no dignity? What have your children done to deserve it? Why do you not go to the Local Authority Public Protections Department with the evidence that you have approached your landlord and his Estate Agents? Call the Vicars wife as your witness and stop putting Nappies and Wet wipes down the loo. Put them in the refuse like it is recommended.[/p][/quote]For Amy's benefit... http://downlode.org/ Miscellany/Waltham-F orest-troll.html[/p][/quote]Conbeefur, as I have previously stateted, I have exhausted all other avenues, this includes trying to get the agent to take notice of the fact that the walls are falling down, the bathroom floor has caved in, the mice are nesting in the property not just passing through it, there is a rats nest in the garden, the back door doesn't close, you cannot open the windows as they will not close again after, the stairs have been confirmed as hazardous. However, the agent has done nothing about these issues, except allow a handy man to come in here yesterday and place a piece of floppy chipboard over the hole in the bathroom floor (this hole leads to the kitchen below). Now I cannot afford to pay a builder to come in and correct this home, nor should I have to I do not own the property, the Church does! As for getting the Vicars wife to be my witness she is my Landlady!!! The local authority do not seem to care they have apparently ordered work to be done back in December and have accepted the Agents statement that he will fix the problems once I have moved out! I believe the Church has much influence in the local council office and that is why they will not help me. Please stop trying to be nasty by stating that I put wet wipes and nappies down the loo, I am not an idiot and feel like sueing the agent for lying about me![/p][/quote]How will you sue the Agent if you have no money for a builder? Legal Aid? The property is a very old cottage, you cannot expect to move to the Countryside and not see a mouse, they are rife.[/p][/quote]yea ok maybe you will see a mouse or 2 but not to be running alive its not a place for 2 young children to be living!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! maybe you would allow your children to live in these conditons but does not mean its normal!! also what is your problem against her asking for help?? are you a part of the church?? or estate agents?? thats what it seems like!! also the only thing she wants to do is move out to a suitable home for her kids not to sue or to have any other money other than her deposit to MOVE.[/p][/quote]She will have to have a good cause to withhold rent. I worry about her judgement parading young babies in front of the world over a couple of mice and a hole. It was so bad and dangerous she was standing with her kids under it in one photo![/p][/quote]yea and like i have already said you do not know the full extent of what is happening or what a young mum is going through living in these conditions!!! and obviously does not take a genius to work out the photographer has got her to stand there!! her main concern is clearly her children and they have been ill due to this!!! and who are you to say her reasons for with holding rent are not good enough?? it is not you liing in the conditions!! it is not you up all hours nursing your children back to health when they are only going to be ill again!!!!!! you dont no wha kids put in there mouth or drop food and pick it up and eat it!!! im a mum and i know!! the house is running alive with vermain! the!! leaving there droppings and god knows what else!!!! a mouse or 2 any one can barely deal with let alone a nest full!!! how dangerous is it that your daughter can go to the bathroom and the floor falls through?? the walls are collapsing in the house?? and say one day her daughter fell through the actual ceiling and god forbid anything bad happend?? and here you are putting her down and telling her that shes using this as fame?? and the house is fine thats what happens when u live in that area?? its disgusting some of the comments!!! you can not judge someone till you yourself have walked in their shoes!!! and clearly you must be a man who would live like this?? and if you yourself had a daughter with two young children and no one was helping her and she had tried all other options and still was trapped in the house that was making her kids ill plus that can cause depression with them living conditions plus 2 kids WHO are constantly ill from the house!!! would you yourself tell her to just deal with it??[/p][/quote]I saw a mouse,where? There on the stair Where on the stair? Right there A little mouse with clogs on, well, I declare Going clip-clippety-clop on the stair - oh yeah![/p][/quote]yea thats confirmed the arrogant vile person you are and you have nothing to say to what i have said!!! just goes to show you live a sad life to put a young girl down!!!! KARMA is a brilliant thing you see! and trust me when i say your time will come to endure worse! you never have the right to judge someone until you yourself have been through the exact same! nicole89
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

Send us your news, pictures and videos

Most read stories

Local Info

Enter your postcode, town or place name

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree