Wood Street Pie and Mash closes doors after 36 years

East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Maureen Bourne outside her pie and mash shop. Maureen Bourne outside her pie and mash shop.

A pie and mash shop is to close after 36 years.

Wood Street Pie and Mash is one of the oldest businesses in the area, according to owner Maureen Bourne.

It joins a long list of pie and mash shops shutting across London and leaves only two remaining in Waltham Forest – Eel and Pie House in Leytonstone High Road and L Manze in Walthamstow High Street.

Mrs Bourne said at 73 years old the time is right to retire and cited parking restrictions as a major factor in declining business.

“A lot of the old customers have moved away but there are lots of memories,” Mrs Bourne said.
“It is sad but that’s the way it is now. It’s nowhere near what it used to be.

“You’re just about surviving now down that road. Lots of businesses feel the same way.

“It’s the way rates are going up and the main thing is parking – there’s nowhere to park.

“No sooner do you stop than the wardens are on top of you and it’s not as though it’s a busy road.”

Mrs Bourne said she was most saddened to leave her customers, some of whom she has known for decades.

She said some of her fondest memories were having customers who visited the shop as children visit as adults with their own children.

Mrs Bourne also lists doing a TV commercial with comedian Mark Lamar, celebrity visitors including Sam Fox and Eastenders actors Pam St Clement and Perry Fenwick.

“I’m by the sea now so I have time when I’ll be able to go down there and have no more problems or worries about the shop now and be at ease,” she added.

As of December 2013 38 pie and mash shops have closed across London since 1994, according to pie and mash enthusiast group The Pie & Mash Club.

The shop’s last day of opening is February 28 and it is set to become an Italian restaurant.

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10:35am Mon 17 Feb 14

markhouse24 says...

It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.
It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too. markhouse24

11:30am Mon 17 Feb 14

skealey says...

markhouse24 wrote:
It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.
Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car.

If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St.
[quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car. If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St. skealey

11:40am Mon 17 Feb 14

It's good to talk says...

Sounds like she has earned her retirements and seen better days, wish her well.
Sounds like she has earned her retirements and seen better days, wish her well. It's good to talk

2:07pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?
This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems? Villagecranberry

5:29pm Mon 17 Feb 14

I'm Alan says...

I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..
I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place.. I'm Alan

5:39pm Mon 17 Feb 14

skealey says...

I'm Alan wrote:
I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..
Italian Fried Chicken?
[quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..[/p][/quote]Italian Fried Chicken? skealey

5:44pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?
But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash.

Got it?

Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ.

What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up!
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?[/p][/quote]But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash. Got it? Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ. What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up! Stevo98

6:16pm Mon 17 Feb 14

jackblack007 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?
could of guessed you'd start , mind you it makes a change from traffic calming measures and speed humps, ever thought of changing your name to village idiot ?
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?[/p][/quote]could of guessed you'd start , mind you it makes a change from traffic calming measures and speed humps, ever thought of changing your name to village idiot ? jackblack007

7:53pm Mon 17 Feb 14

I'm Alan says...

skealey wrote:
I'm Alan wrote:
I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..
Italian Fried Chicken?
Well see if it becomes an Italian Restaurant..I personally don't see the clientele.
[quote][p][bold]skealey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..[/p][/quote]Italian Fried Chicken?[/p][/quote]Well see if it becomes an Italian Restaurant..I personally don't see the clientele. I'm Alan

8:49pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Alan (Red) Squirrel says...

I had a pie there once, didn't smell great.
I had a pie there once, didn't smell great. Alan (Red) Squirrel

8:59pm Mon 17 Feb 14

I'm Alan says...

skealey wrote:
markhouse24 wrote:
It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.
Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car.

If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St.
@ markhouse24 says... No, People do not want to pay out for parking This council has killed local business stone dead..
[quote][p][bold]skealey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car. If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St.[/p][/quote]@ markhouse24 says... No, People do not want to pay out for parking This council has killed local business stone dead.. I'm Alan

9:15pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

Stevo98 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?
But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash.

Got it?

Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ.

What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up!
I live in the heart of Walthamstow actually and have done all my life, where I live has nothing to do with you in any event and has no relevance to the Gravees, eels and mashes shops article and thread.

Got it?
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?[/p][/quote]But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash. Got it? Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ. What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up![/p][/quote]I live in the heart of Walthamstow actually and have done all my life, where I live has nothing to do with you in any event and has no relevance to the Gravees, eels and mashes shops article and thread. Got it? Villagecranberry

9:16pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

Alan (Red) Squirrel wrote:
I had a pie there once, didn't smell great.
Take a bath?
[quote][p][bold]Alan (Red) Squirrel[/bold] wrote: I had a pie there once, didn't smell great.[/p][/quote]Take a bath? Villagecranberry

9:26pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

I'm Alan wrote:
skealey wrote:
markhouse24 wrote:
It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.
Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car.

If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St.
@ markhouse24 says... No, People do not want to pay out for parking This council has killed local business stone dead..
People could spend money in shops in E11, there's zero competition, apart from the largest shopping mall by area in Europe less than a mile away.
[quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skealey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car. If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St.[/p][/quote]@ markhouse24 says... No, People do not want to pay out for parking This council has killed local business stone dead..[/p][/quote]People could spend money in shops in E11, there's zero competition, apart from the largest shopping mall by area in Europe less than a mile away. Stevo98

10:57pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

Stevo98 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?
But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash.

Got it?

Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ.

What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up!
As for calling me a 'racist' I should say that the term you use ' knuckle dragger' has extremely racist connotations' and I suggest you withdraw it.
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?[/p][/quote]But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash. Got it? Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ. What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up![/p][/quote]As for calling me a 'racist' I should say that the term you use ' knuckle dragger' has extremely racist connotations' and I suggest you withdraw it. Villagecranberry

11:33pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

I'm Alan wrote:
skealey wrote:
I'm Alan wrote:
I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..
Italian Fried Chicken?
Well see if it becomes an Italian Restaurant..I personally don't see the clientele.
It's possible.

LBWF property prices went up 16% last year, Prime Westminster went up 13%,

Leytonstone's becoming a middle-class enclave. People who can't afford Hackney and Islington. Bring it on I say, and I hope Mrs Bourne has a long and happy retirement.
[quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skealey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..[/p][/quote]Italian Fried Chicken?[/p][/quote]Well see if it becomes an Italian Restaurant..I personally don't see the clientele.[/p][/quote]It's possible. LBWF property prices went up 16% last year, Prime Westminster went up 13%, Leytonstone's becoming a middle-class enclave. People who can't afford Hackney and Islington. Bring it on I say, and I hope Mrs Bourne has a long and happy retirement. Stevo98

1:09pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Alan_1976 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
Stevo98 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?
But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash.

Got it?

Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ.

What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up!
As for calling me a 'racist' I should say that the term you use ' knuckle dragger' has extremely racist connotations' and I suggest you withdraw it.
From the dictionary. Definition of knuckle dragger...

"a stupid or loutish man."

So I see no need for him to withdraw it as it seems a very accurate usage of the term. Unless of course he wished to correct to a "lying knuckle dragger"

How's life in Marylebone these days Cornbeefur?
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?[/p][/quote]But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash. Got it? Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ. What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up![/p][/quote]As for calling me a 'racist' I should say that the term you use ' knuckle dragger' has extremely racist connotations' and I suggest you withdraw it.[/p][/quote]From the dictionary. Definition of knuckle dragger... "a stupid or loutish man." So I see no need for him to withdraw it as it seems a very accurate usage of the term. Unless of course he wished to correct to a "lying knuckle dragger" How's life in Marylebone these days Cornbeefur? Alan_1976

7:16pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

Alan_1976 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Stevo98 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?
But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash.

Got it?

Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ.

What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up!
As for calling me a 'racist' I should say that the term you use ' knuckle dragger' has extremely racist connotations' and I suggest you withdraw it.
From the dictionary. Definition of knuckle dragger...

"a stupid or loutish man."

So I see no need for him to withdraw it as it seems a very accurate usage of the term. Unless of course he wished to correct to a "lying knuckle dragger"

How's life in Marylebone these days Cornbeefur?
Marylebone? I'm Al, Not the Ladybird 'My First Dictionary' The Street Dictionary

http://www.urbandict
ionary.com/define.ph
p?term=knuckle%20dra
gger

I would suggest the term is racist and has always been, very offensive to black people and I suggest for you to suggest otherwise is ridiculous, why you support the other poster is beyond me as it clearly is .
[quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: This is sad but mashes and eels and liquors and pies can still be bought up where Our great son, Alfred Hitchcock was born near Harrows Green but parking is still a massive problem there also and it is hard to just nip in there and get a stew eel stew or visit Alfred birth place which is scandalous. It is probably better to just go to his old watering hole that has a car park at the Hislop Hotel Whipp Cross Road and toast the great director there with if they have it on his beer pint of Directors. The again if the Eels and mashes gravees shop is going to be Italian, the will have the same parking problems?[/p][/quote]But we don't want sad sack racist cretins like you, who doesn't even live in the borough, bringing your polluting vehicle in to clog up our streets while you stuff your stupid fat racist mouth with pie and mash. Got it? Stay clear, we don't want disgusting knuckle-draggers like you in our borough, you lower the overall IQ. What markhouse says about LBWF's attitudes to on-street parking is spot on, the roads are clogged with abandoned vehicles and the idiot council paint cycle lanes slap bang in the door zone, so LBWF boast about the sort of facilities for cyclists that killed Sam Harding, you couldn't make it up![/p][/quote]As for calling me a 'racist' I should say that the term you use ' knuckle dragger' has extremely racist connotations' and I suggest you withdraw it.[/p][/quote]From the dictionary. Definition of knuckle dragger... "a stupid or loutish man." So I see no need for him to withdraw it as it seems a very accurate usage of the term. Unless of course he wished to correct to a "lying knuckle dragger" How's life in Marylebone these days Cornbeefur?[/p][/quote]Marylebone? I'm Al, Not the Ladybird 'My First Dictionary' The Street Dictionary http://www.urbandict ionary.com/define.ph p?term=knuckle%20dra gger I would suggest the term is racist and has always been, very offensive to black people and I suggest for you to suggest otherwise is ridiculous, why you support the other poster is beyond me as it clearly is . Villagecranberry

8:18pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

"Reminiscent of the hunched over cave man, with his arms to the ground. An insult used against those of extremely low intelligence, or general stupidity. "

It doesn't say anything about being racist, because it isn't. You are.

And there's no such place in Leytonstone as "Harrows Green".

Keep your filthy racist views off this website, you don't live here and racist knuckle-draggers like you are not welcome.
"Reminiscent of the hunched over cave man, with his arms to the ground. An insult used against those of extremely low intelligence, or general stupidity. " It doesn't say anything about being racist, because it isn't. You are. And there's no such place in Leytonstone as "Harrows Green". Keep your filthy racist views off this website, you don't live here and racist knuckle-draggers like you are not welcome. Stevo98

8:50pm Tue 18 Feb 14

escapefrome17 says...

I see the troll squad are out in force again-dragging everything down with petty personal squabbling and name calling. Guardian, is there no moderator to put a stop to this puerile nonsense? I'm sure it must be putting sensible folk off making sensible comments.
I see the troll squad are out in force again-dragging everything down with petty personal squabbling and name calling. Guardian, is there no moderator to put a stop to this puerile nonsense? I'm sure it must be putting sensible folk off making sensible comments. escapefrome17

10:57pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

Stevo98 wrote:
"Reminiscent of the hunched over cave man, with his arms to the ground. An insult used against those of extremely low intelligence, or general stupidity. "

It doesn't say anything about being racist, because it isn't. You are.

And there's no such place in Leytonstone as "Harrows Green".

Keep your filthy racist views off this website, you don't live here and racist knuckle-draggers like you are not welcome.
You are the only person using filthy racist phrases . You should not use slang language without keeping up with modern day usage and how offensive it can be and your usage of the phrase 'knuckle dragger' IS racist stop using this phrase. I am perceiving as racist so desist please.
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: "Reminiscent of the hunched over cave man, with his arms to the ground. An insult used against those of extremely low intelligence, or general stupidity. " It doesn't say anything about being racist, because it isn't. You are. And there's no such place in Leytonstone as "Harrows Green". Keep your filthy racist views off this website, you don't live here and racist knuckle-draggers like you are not welcome.[/p][/quote]You are the only person using filthy racist phrases . You should not use slang language without keeping up with modern day usage and how offensive it can be and your usage of the phrase 'knuckle dragger' IS racist stop using this phrase. I am perceiving as racist so desist please. Villagecranberry

11:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

I'm Alan wrote:
I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..
Or a funky coffee shop. That stretch of the High Road isn't bad, you have the fantastic Sing Buri round the corner, best Thai food in WF. Look at Forest Gate, groovy little bakeries and coffee shops full of hipsters peering at Apple Macs.
[quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..[/p][/quote]Or a funky coffee shop. That stretch of the High Road isn't bad, you have the fantastic Sing Buri round the corner, best Thai food in WF. Look at Forest Gate, groovy little bakeries and coffee shops full of hipsters peering at Apple Macs. Stevo98

11:48am Wed 19 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

Stevo98 wrote:
I'm Alan wrote:
I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..
Or a funky coffee shop. That stretch of the High Road isn't bad, you have the fantastic Sing Buri round the corner, best Thai food in WF. Look at Forest Gate, groovy little bakeries and coffee shops full of hipsters peering at Apple Macs.
The shop is in Walthamstow, Singburi is in Leytonstone. The article states that it will become an Italian Restaurant.
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: I'm sure a crap fried chicken shop will unfortunately takes it's place..[/p][/quote]Or a funky coffee shop. That stretch of the High Road isn't bad, you have the fantastic Sing Buri round the corner, best Thai food in WF. Look at Forest Gate, groovy little bakeries and coffee shops full of hipsters peering at Apple Macs.[/p][/quote]The shop is in Walthamstow, Singburi is in Leytonstone. The article states that it will become an Italian Restaurant. Villagecranberry

9:05pm Fri 21 Feb 14

HottRedMan says...

skealey wrote:
markhouse24 wrote:
It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.
Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car.

If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St.
That is just it, I am one person who would NOT use the parking vouchers you buy in the shop as I do not trust 1 minute let alone 2 to go into a shop to buy one then a warden would be there slapping a ticket on my windscreen when I come back. They use every trick in the book to get people, and the appeals process is a pain in the backside.
I don't even go Wood Street to any shop anymore, I used to be able to park FREE on the side streets there, not anymore unless it is around near 10 mins walk. Not worth it imo. Unless you go in the evening when parking restrictions are over.
[quote][p][bold]skealey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markhouse24[/bold] wrote: It's sad that it's closing but is parking really the problem? I always find spaces up the side streets off Wood Street and there are some very cheap car parks nearby too.[/p][/quote]Don't forget that this is the road where the council have converted every available bit of pavement into parking spaces. I cannot think of an easier place to visit by car. If people are getting penalised then they're obviously not buying parking vouchers, which are easily purchased from the shops on Wood St.[/p][/quote]That is just it, I am one person who would NOT use the parking vouchers you buy in the shop as I do not trust 1 minute let alone 2 to go into a shop to buy one then a warden would be there slapping a ticket on my windscreen when I come back. They use every trick in the book to get people, and the appeals process is a pain in the backside. I don't even go Wood Street to any shop anymore, I used to be able to park FREE on the side streets there, not anymore unless it is around near 10 mins walk. Not worth it imo. Unless you go in the evening when parking restrictions are over. HottRedMan

9:16pm Fri 21 Feb 14

I'm Alan says...

@ Stevo98, Just a little question You wasn't born in 98 was you?
@ Stevo98, Just a little question You wasn't born in 98 was you? I'm Alan

9:39pm Sat 22 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

I'm Alan wrote:
@ Stevo98, Just a little question You wasn't born in 98 was you?
Never, he must be much younger than that?
[quote][p][bold]I'm Alan[/bold] wrote: @ Stevo98, Just a little question You wasn't born in 98 was you?[/p][/quote]Never, he must be much younger than that? Villagecranberry

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