Driver flouts parking safety rules to catch others doing the same

The council CCTV enforcement car seen in Davies Lane, Leytonstone.

The council CCTV enforcement car seen in Davies Lane, Leytonstone.

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A CCTV spy car driver has been photographed flouting parking rules in order to catch others doing the same.

The cars are used to catch drivers breaking traffic rules, including parking illegally, resulting in thousands of pounds of fines a year.

Spotted by a resident, who did not want to be named, earlier this month in Davies Lane, Leytonstone, the driver of the spy car is parked on a double yellow line - in a way that would incurr a fine for a member of the public.

Police can intervene if a council spy car is parked dangerously and double yellow lines are commonly used to ensure the safety of drivers.

However, the council claim it is down to the discretion of individual officers.

A council spokeman said: “While CCTV cars are considered exempted vehicles under the Road Traffic Regulations Act 1984 and are permitted to park on yellow lines, they are instructed to only do so where no suitable alternative exists and to not park dangerously or obstructively.”
The Guardian is awaiting further clarification on whether any action will be taken against the driver.

 

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7:41am Tue 18 Feb 14

blu_glo says...

I has a scooter riding council moneygrabber, sorry, "enforcement officer" do precisely the same by my car when it was parked at wrong time in a timed parking space. Was told the same - he was exempt as he was "exempt. One rule for one lot of people different rules for everyone else. That on top of being denied the rights to park on the roads we already paid for in ROAD TAX (that doesn't get spend on roads anyway) and in other on-street parking instances being forced to pay a SECOND time.
I has a scooter riding council moneygrabber, sorry, "enforcement officer" do precisely the same by my car when it was parked at wrong time in a timed parking space. Was told the same - he was exempt as he was "exempt. One rule for one lot of people different rules for everyone else. That on top of being denied the rights to park on the roads we already paid for in ROAD TAX (that doesn't get spend on roads anyway) and in other on-street parking instances being forced to pay a SECOND time. blu_glo
  • Score: 4

9:42am Tue 18 Feb 14

escapefrome17 says...

Whenever you see these cars parked up, always whip your phone out, walk up to the car and snap the occupants- they absolutely hate it but there's nothing at all they can do about it! It really really winds them up :)
Whenever you see these cars parked up, always whip your phone out, walk up to the car and snap the occupants- they absolutely hate it but there's nothing at all they can do about it! It really really winds them up :) escapefrome17
  • Score: 26

10:57am Tue 18 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them.
Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them. Stevo98
  • Score: 6

11:19am Tue 18 Feb 14

timplum says...

Stevo98 wrote:
Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them.
Agreed! I live in a one way street and there are a significant number of drivers who seem to think the "No-entry" signs are optional. If the CCTV car gets the boot from Davies lane, then please send it our way.
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them.[/p][/quote]Agreed! I live in a one way street and there are a significant number of drivers who seem to think the "No-entry" signs are optional. If the CCTV car gets the boot from Davies lane, then please send it our way. timplum
  • Score: 6

11:59am Tue 18 Feb 14

VillageIdiot69 says...

escapefrome17 wrote:
Whenever you see these cars parked up, always whip your phone out, walk up to the car and snap the occupants- they absolutely hate it but there's nothing at all they can do about it! It really really winds them up :)
Ha ha, nice to know I'm not the only one who does it !

I've got a couple of pictures of these cars parked on double yellows up Sewardstone Road and on Forest Road. They block traffic and are doing exactly what they are supposed to be there to prevent.
[quote][p][bold]escapefrome17[/bold] wrote: Whenever you see these cars parked up, always whip your phone out, walk up to the car and snap the occupants- they absolutely hate it but there's nothing at all they can do about it! It really really winds them up :)[/p][/quote]Ha ha, nice to know I'm not the only one who does it ! I've got a couple of pictures of these cars parked on double yellows up Sewardstone Road and on Forest Road. They block traffic and are doing exactly what they are supposed to be there to prevent. VillageIdiot69
  • Score: 13

12:11pm Tue 18 Feb 14

escapefrome17 says...

Stevo98, you're confusing these cctv cars with proper traffic police- if you want boy racers and people on phones catching then lobby for more proper traffic cops, because you'll get no joy from a council contractor in a cctv car. This is all about raising revenue from parking offences, nothing at all to do with road safety, and if they have to park illegally to catch people who're doing the same then they lose any vestige of respect as people supposedly doing a job to help the flow of traffic.
Stevo98, you're confusing these cctv cars with proper traffic police- if you want boy racers and people on phones catching then lobby for more proper traffic cops, because you'll get no joy from a council contractor in a cctv car. This is all about raising revenue from parking offences, nothing at all to do with road safety, and if they have to park illegally to catch people who're doing the same then they lose any vestige of respect as people supposedly doing a job to help the flow of traffic. escapefrome17
  • Score: 13

12:17pm Tue 18 Feb 14

escapefrome17 says...

Its also annoying that the police regularly park their van half on the pavement half on the double yellows outside the police office in kirkdale road- it's not operational reasons, it's laziness because they have a car park there but don't bother to use it as it looks a bit of a faff to get a big van into.
Its also annoying that the police regularly park their van half on the pavement half on the double yellows outside the police office in kirkdale road- it's not operational reasons, it's laziness because they have a car park there but don't bother to use it as it looks a bit of a faff to get a big van into. escapefrome17
  • Score: -7

12:23pm Tue 18 Feb 14

mdj says...

'However, the council claim it is down to the discretion of individual officers.'

There seems to be a general culture at large in our Council that obedience to the law is optional, and that the law is what a person in an official position decides to do.
Some people believe that there is a systematic move afoot to subvert the rule of law by public officials: Google 'Leading Beyond Authority' if the idea seems to chime with your perceptions of official conduct.

This is where tyranny starts. If it's not opposed step by step at the petty stage, it simply grows and grows.

Incidentally, that road marking is so worn out that anyone who parks there could claim innocence, since it surely doesn't comply with the rules.
It is never safe to assume that our public officials are obeying the law or telling the truth.
'However, the council claim it is down to the discretion of individual officers.' There seems to be a general culture at large in our Council that obedience to the law is optional, and that the law is what a person in an official position decides to do. Some people believe that there is a systematic move afoot to subvert the rule of law by public officials: Google 'Leading Beyond Authority' if the idea seems to chime with your perceptions of official conduct. This is where tyranny starts. If it's not opposed step by step at the petty stage, it simply grows and grows. Incidentally, that road marking is so worn out that anyone who parks there could claim innocence, since it surely doesn't comply with the rules. It is never safe to assume that our public officials are obeying the law or telling the truth. mdj
  • Score: 9

1:24pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Andrewfd says...

Its a regular occurrence. One rule for them one rule for us…..Just like LBWF…...
Its a regular occurrence. One rule for them one rule for us…..Just like LBWF…... Andrewfd
  • Score: 7

2:51pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Chingfordsfinest says...

Stevo98 wrote:
Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them.
Stevo98.

There is CCTV camera in Highams Park that literally does not move from the zebra crossing to catch drivers stopping on a zebra. Yes this is illegal, but this CCTV camera is also meant to prevent crime not just to dish out £65 PCN's. Also Police can park on yellow lines, but this a Council vehicle....
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them.[/p][/quote]Stevo98. There is CCTV camera in Highams Park that literally does not move from the zebra crossing to catch drivers stopping on a zebra. Yes this is illegal, but this CCTV camera is also meant to prevent crime not just to dish out £65 PCN's. Also Police can park on yellow lines, but this a Council vehicle.... Chingfordsfinest
  • Score: 5

8:06pm Tue 18 Feb 14

HottRedMan says...

Stevo98 wrote:
Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them.
What a pathetic comment, boy racers??? Does that term still exist, that was so last century.

The point of the matter this should be a NON story, unless it is a slow news day. CCTV cars are ALLOWED to park on double yellow lines.
What is tomorrows story, police car gets flashed by speed camera whilst on an emergency.
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: Who cares? The police can stop on a double yellow it it's police business. Put it this way, if the car parks on a double yellow and catches thirty idiot drivers who think the rules don't apply to them it's a net benefit. Leytonstone is packed with boy-racers, drivers on mobiles, speeding drivers. I don't care how they get caught, just catch them.[/p][/quote]What a pathetic comment, boy racers??? Does that term still exist, that was so last century. The point of the matter this should be a NON story, unless it is a slow news day. CCTV cars are ALLOWED to park on double yellow lines. What is tomorrows story, police car gets flashed by speed camera whilst on an emergency. HottRedMan
  • Score: -5

8:23pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

"This is all about raising revenue from parking offences, nothing at all to do with road safety"

I take it you don't ride a bike, are people really this dumb?

You should not park or drive on the pavement, it's a criminal offence that forces the blind and mums with prams to walk in the road. You are not supposed to park near a junction where abandoned vehicles block sightlines and make conditions more dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists, especially if the car has stupid tinted windows.

Irresponsible parking has EVERYTHING to do with road safety.

The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users. They make the roads more dangerous, any fines these muppets get are basically a voluntary tax paid by selfish twits who think the law doesn't apply to them.
"This is all about raising revenue from parking offences, nothing at all to do with road safety" I take it you don't ride a bike, are people really this dumb? You should not park or drive on the pavement, it's a criminal offence that forces the blind and mums with prams to walk in the road. You are not supposed to park near a junction where abandoned vehicles block sightlines and make conditions more dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists, especially if the car has stupid tinted windows. Irresponsible parking has EVERYTHING to do with road safety. The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users. They make the roads more dangerous, any fines these muppets get are basically a voluntary tax paid by selfish twits who think the law doesn't apply to them. Stevo98
  • Score: 11

10:19am Wed 19 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

The road markings where the camera car is parked do not comply with the regulations anyhow as they are hardly noticeable having eroded and worn away.
The road markings where the camera car is parked do not comply with the regulations anyhow as they are hardly noticeable having eroded and worn away. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -16

4:38pm Wed 19 Feb 14

escapefrome17 says...

"The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users. They make the roads more dangerous, any fines these muppets get are basically a voluntary tax paid by selfish twits who think the law doesn't apply to them".........you still appear to misunderstand the function of these cars-not ONE of those drivers you mention will be caught by a contractor sat in a cctv car. For that you need a proper traffic policeman, just as a speed camera will never catch a dangerously drunk driver who happens to be going below the speed that triggers the camera. I repeat, it's all about revenue raising, nothing to do with nicking poor drivers!
"The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users. They make the roads more dangerous, any fines these muppets get are basically a voluntary tax paid by selfish twits who think the law doesn't apply to them".........you still appear to misunderstand the function of these cars-not ONE of those drivers you mention will be caught by a contractor sat in a cctv car. For that you need a proper traffic policeman, just as a speed camera will never catch a dangerously drunk driver who happens to be going below the speed that triggers the camera. I repeat, it's all about revenue raising, nothing to do with nicking poor drivers! escapefrome17
  • Score: -5

5:16pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

If you seriously think that motor vehicles abandoned in illegal and dangerous positions have nothing to do with road safety you are too stupid to argue with.
If you seriously think that motor vehicles abandoned in illegal and dangerous positions have nothing to do with road safety you are too stupid to argue with. Stevo98
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

All traffic fines are entirely voluntary. You can easily avoid them by not breaking the law. Fining people who urinate in the street or spray graffiti isn't "revenue raising" any more than traffic fines are. The only people who pay motoring fines are idiots who think the law doesn't apply to them.
All traffic fines are entirely voluntary. You can easily avoid them by not breaking the law. Fining people who urinate in the street or spray graffiti isn't "revenue raising" any more than traffic fines are. The only people who pay motoring fines are idiots who think the law doesn't apply to them. Stevo98
  • Score: 3

5:47pm Wed 19 Feb 14

TTMAN says...

Sometimes it is unavoidable to break the law. Lights are set to entrap, re:west London box junction. If you would like a detailed explanation of how this works I will explain when I have a couple of hours to spare.
Sometimes it is unavoidable to break the law. Lights are set to entrap, re:west London box junction. If you would like a detailed explanation of how this works I will explain when I have a couple of hours to spare. TTMAN
  • Score: 0

6:17pm Wed 19 Feb 14

Stevo98 says...

You DO NOT enter a box junction until your exit is clear. This is a basic driving skill, if you struggle with it I'd recommend additional driving training. If another vehicle darts in front you can appeal.

Next.
You DO NOT enter a box junction until your exit is clear. This is a basic driving skill, if you struggle with it I'd recommend additional driving training. If another vehicle darts in front you can appeal. Next. Stevo98
  • Score: 0

9:55pm Wed 19 Feb 14

escapefrome17 says...

Stevo98 wrote:
If you seriously think that motor vehicles abandoned in illegal and dangerous positions have nothing to do with road safety you are too stupid to argue with.
Go back and read what you wrote...."The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users"............no mention of abandoned vehicles, now please eplain how these 'idiot chavs' at 'ridiculous speeds' are going to be caught by a cctv revenue raiser. I'll say it again- what's needed are real traffic cops in real police cars who can bring prosecutions against these poor drivers.....no cctv car can do this.Watch police interceptors-how many drunk drivers get caught by council cctv cars, now, what's the greater danger on thr road- the twit who parks outside the fag shop for a few minutes or someone driving while yakking on the phone? I know which one I'd rather see the effort put into catching!

Regarding box junctions, you can of course wait in them if turning right, surprisingly, not everyone seems to be aware of this..
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: If you seriously think that motor vehicles abandoned in illegal and dangerous positions have nothing to do with road safety you are too stupid to argue with.[/p][/quote]Go back and read what you wrote...."The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users"............no mention of abandoned vehicles, now please eplain how these 'idiot chavs' at 'ridiculous speeds' are going to be caught by a cctv revenue raiser. I'll say it again- what's needed are real traffic cops in real police cars who can bring prosecutions against these poor drivers.....no cctv car can do this.Watch police interceptors-how many drunk drivers get caught by council cctv cars, now, what's the greater danger on thr road- the twit who parks outside the fag shop for a few minutes or someone driving while yakking on the phone? I know which one I'd rather see the effort put into catching! Regarding box junctions, you can of course wait in them if turning right, surprisingly, not everyone seems to be aware of this.. escapefrome17
  • Score: -9

9:44pm Thu 20 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

escapefrome17 wrote:
Stevo98 wrote:
If you seriously think that motor vehicles abandoned in illegal and dangerous positions have nothing to do with road safety you are too stupid to argue with.
Go back and read what you wrote...."The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users"............no mention of abandoned vehicles, now please eplain how these 'idiot chavs' at 'ridiculous speeds' are going to be caught by a cctv revenue raiser. I'll say it again- what's needed are real traffic cops in real police cars who can bring prosecutions against these poor drivers.....no cctv car can do this.Watch police interceptors-how many drunk drivers get caught by council cctv cars, now, what's the greater danger on thr road- the twit who parks outside the fag shop for a few minutes or someone driving while yakking on the phone? I know which one I'd rather see the effort put into catching!

Regarding box junctions, you can of course wait in them if turning right, surprisingly, not everyone seems to be aware of this..
You are dead right especially about the right turn, it is a bit like Bus Lanes, people stay out of them 24 hour a day when, like Lea Bridge Road, they only apply 4pm to 7pm. They are ' negativing you' out of frustration as they did not realise that what you say is correct.
[quote][p][bold]escapefrome17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: If you seriously think that motor vehicles abandoned in illegal and dangerous positions have nothing to do with road safety you are too stupid to argue with.[/p][/quote]Go back and read what you wrote...."The rows of streets south of the High Road station are used by idiot chavs in cars to scream up and down at ridiculous speeds. Drivers ignore the law and bully and intimidate vulnerable road users"............no mention of abandoned vehicles, now please eplain how these 'idiot chavs' at 'ridiculous speeds' are going to be caught by a cctv revenue raiser. I'll say it again- what's needed are real traffic cops in real police cars who can bring prosecutions against these poor drivers.....no cctv car can do this.Watch police interceptors-how many drunk drivers get caught by council cctv cars, now, what's the greater danger on thr road- the twit who parks outside the fag shop for a few minutes or someone driving while yakking on the phone? I know which one I'd rather see the effort put into catching! Regarding box junctions, you can of course wait in them if turning right, surprisingly, not everyone seems to be aware of this..[/p][/quote]You are dead right especially about the right turn, it is a bit like Bus Lanes, people stay out of them 24 hour a day when, like Lea Bridge Road, they only apply 4pm to 7pm. They are ' negativing you' out of frustration as they did not realise that what you say is correct. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -16

9:54am Mon 3 Mar 14

emilysw19 says...

All Council vehicles carrying out statutory duties can park on yellow lines, so the vehicle is legally parked. Why would you take a photo, would you photograph a driver with a blue badge or someone unloading on a yellow line? If people spent more time worrying about their own standard of driving instead of harrasing council staff doing their job maybe the cars would not be needed!
All Council vehicles carrying out statutory duties can park on yellow lines, so the vehicle is legally parked. Why would you take a photo, would you photograph a driver with a blue badge or someone unloading on a yellow line? If people spent more time worrying about their own standard of driving instead of harrasing council staff doing their job maybe the cars would not be needed! emilysw19
  • Score: 0

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