Aaron Carriere, 21, and Josiah Manful, 20, were fatally stabbed in Montague Road, Leytonstone, on Saturday morning

Aaron Carriere, 21.

Josiah Manful, 20.

Floral tributes to the victims in Montague Road.

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Over 50 police officers are working with “lots of leads” in a “very active” double murder investigation after two men were fatally stabbed in Leytonstone on the weekend, the lead detective revealed today.

Detective Chief Inspector Neil Attewell told the Guardian that no arrests have been made yet as police continue to work to establish the identities and motives of at least five suspects.

Aaron Carriere, 21, and Josiah Manful, 20, were fatally stabbed in Montague Road in the early hours of Saturday morning by a group of attackers reported to have been wielding knives and baseball bats.

Police say there is no information to suggest further incidents will occur in the area but there are extra patrols taking place to minimise any tension, DCI Attewell said.

“What I can tell you is that Josiah and Aaron were in a black Ford Fiesta in Montague Road and, for some reason or another, the car came to a stop where several suspects attacked the car from both sides, stabbing both men several times,” he added.

Both men, reported to be active churchgoers and confirmed by police to be Leytonstone residents, were pronounced dead at the scene.

DCI Attewell would not say whether he thought the men were targeted or the attack was random but he added that work is ongoing to establish whether the incident was isolated or not.

Police continue to seek witnesses, monitor CCTV footage and carry out house-to-house enquiries.

An “anniversary appeal” will be held on Saturday when police will be in the Montague Road area around 1am, the time of the murder, to appeal for witnesses.

Anyone who witnessed the event, or who may know why the men were murdered and who is responsible, is urged to come forward.

“We’re doing as much as we can to reassure the community and make sure things get back to normal,” DCI Attewell added.

He would not say whether investigations are restricted to Waltham Forest but he did say there is an “awful lot” of work taking place in Leytonstone to identify the attackers.

A post mortem gave Mr Carriere’s cause of death as stab wounds to the neck while Mr Manful, a former student of Buxton School in Cann Hall Road, died from shock, haemorrhaging and stab wounds to the chest.

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6:19pm Tue 4 Mar 14

westside_o says...

My condolences to their families and loved ones.

There is too much killing on our streets. Much of it youth related.

All those who don't agree with "stop and search" procedures, think again.
The police would be more than happy to hear of alternatives to rid the streets of this kind of crime.
I don't want any more lives wasted.
My condolences to their families and loved ones. There is too much killing on our streets. Much of it youth related. All those who don't agree with "stop and search" procedures, think again. The police would be more than happy to hear of alternatives to rid the streets of this kind of crime. I don't want any more lives wasted. westside_o
  • Score: 13

6:30pm Tue 4 Mar 14

stickmanny says...

I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.
I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes. stickmanny
  • Score: -17

6:37pm Tue 4 Mar 14

westside_o says...

stickmanny wrote:
I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.
Could have been you, me or one of our loved ones.
No colour is knife proof !
If it saves a life, I'm for it.
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.[/p][/quote]Could have been you, me or one of our loved ones. No colour is knife proof ! If it saves a life, I'm for it. westside_o
  • Score: 9

7:10pm Tue 4 Mar 14

I'm Alan says...

I sincerely hope they catch the murdering scum..
I sincerely hope they catch the murdering scum.. I'm Alan
  • Score: 10

7:17pm Tue 4 Mar 14

stickmanny says...

westside_o wrote:
stickmanny wrote:
I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.
Could have been you, me or one of our loved ones.
No colour is knife proof !
If it saves a life, I'm for it.
Well we could have armies of police searching EVERYBODY. That would save plenty of lives but that doesn't make it a good idea.

Stop and search alienates communities and is a waste of police time.
[quote][p][bold]westside_o[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.[/p][/quote]Could have been you, me or one of our loved ones. No colour is knife proof ! If it saves a life, I'm for it.[/p][/quote]Well we could have armies of police searching EVERYBODY. That would save plenty of lives but that doesn't make it a good idea. Stop and search alienates communities and is a waste of police time. stickmanny
  • Score: -10

7:29pm Tue 4 Mar 14

westside_o says...

stickmanny wrote:
westside_o wrote:
stickmanny wrote:
I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.
Could have been you, me or one of our loved ones.
No colour is knife proof !
If it saves a life, I'm for it.
Well we could have armies of police searching EVERYBODY. That would save plenty of lives but that doesn't make it a good idea.

Stop and search alienates communities and is a waste of police time.
Ok. So what's your idea to get weapons off of the street ?
.......
Are you saying that:
You are sanctioning the bearing of arms to all ?
This doesn't stop at knives, but includes firearms!
Do not stop people because they don't like it (especially if they are black or blonde)?
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]westside_o[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.[/p][/quote]Could have been you, me or one of our loved ones. No colour is knife proof ! If it saves a life, I'm for it.[/p][/quote]Well we could have armies of police searching EVERYBODY. That would save plenty of lives but that doesn't make it a good idea. Stop and search alienates communities and is a waste of police time.[/p][/quote]Ok. So what's your idea to get weapons off of the street ? ....... Are you saying that: You are sanctioning the bearing of arms to all ? This doesn't stop at knives, but includes firearms! Do not stop people because they don't like it (especially if they are black or blonde)? westside_o
  • Score: 3

8:36pm Tue 4 Mar 14

stickmanny says...

People don't like it when they are innocent but singled out as suspects with no grounds for suspicion.

The alternatives are about engaging constructively, communicating and educating. More us, less them and us.

They are also about taking the supply of drugs out of criminal hands.
People don't like it when they are innocent but singled out as suspects with no grounds for suspicion. The alternatives are about engaging constructively, communicating and educating. More us, less them and us. They are also about taking the supply of drugs out of criminal hands. stickmanny
  • Score: -2

8:57pm Tue 4 Mar 14

westside_o says...

stickmanny wrote:
People don't like it when they are innocent but singled out as suspects with no grounds for suspicion.

The alternatives are about engaging constructively, communicating and educating. More us, less them and us.

They are also about taking the supply of drugs out of criminal hands.
"People don't like it when they are innocent but singled out as suspects with no grounds for suspicion"

Wouldn't bother me.
The police could stop me 5 times a day.
Got nothing to hide and nothing to fear.

"The alternatives are about engaging constructively, communicating and educating"

Yes ! That's the place to start.
First at home then reinforced at schools !

" More us, less them and us"

If you're talking about the police, we outnumber them already.

"They are also about taking the supply of drugs out of criminal hands."

I'm not sure what you're saying here.
Are you suggesting that criminals should be granted a special dispensation to allow the sale of narcotics ?
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: People don't like it when they are innocent but singled out as suspects with no grounds for suspicion. The alternatives are about engaging constructively, communicating and educating. More us, less them and us. They are also about taking the supply of drugs out of criminal hands.[/p][/quote]"People don't like it when they are innocent but singled out as suspects with no grounds for suspicion" Wouldn't bother me. The police could stop me 5 times a day. Got nothing to hide and nothing to fear. "The alternatives are about engaging constructively, communicating and educating" Yes ! That's the place to start. First at home then reinforced at schools ! " More us, less them and us" If you're talking about the police, we outnumber them already. "They are also about taking the supply of drugs out of criminal hands." I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you suggesting that criminals should be granted a special dispensation to allow the sale of narcotics ? westside_o
  • Score: 5

6:49am Wed 5 Mar 14

stickmanny says...

"Wouldn't bother me"

This is a little naive. Read a few reports around black men that have been victimised, stopped 40 times a year for nothing. Listen to the Lawrence family, the "terrorist suspects" from Forest Gate - shot, harrassed, accused of being paedophiles by the Police with no evidence whatsoever. This is the stuff that gets in the way of successful community relations.

The drugs laws need an overhaul, and that means licenced, controlled sale.
"Wouldn't bother me" This is a little naive. Read a few reports around black men that have been victimised, stopped 40 times a year for nothing. Listen to the Lawrence family, the "terrorist suspects" from Forest Gate - shot, harrassed, accused of being paedophiles by the Police with no evidence whatsoever. This is the stuff that gets in the way of successful community relations. The drugs laws need an overhaul, and that means licenced, controlled sale. stickmanny
  • Score: -2

9:49pm Wed 5 Mar 14

Walthamster says...

Young black men are carrying weapons to kill other young black men. But let's not stop and search anyone because that's rude. Or if a young black man is searched, the police also have to search an old Asian woman and a middle-aged white person of unspecified gender, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young black man got stabbed.
Young black men are carrying weapons to kill other young black men. But let's not stop and search anyone because that's rude. Or if a young black man is searched, the police also have to search an old Asian woman and a middle-aged white person of unspecified gender, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young black man got stabbed. Walthamster
  • Score: 4

12:30pm Thu 6 Mar 14

stickmanny says...

Young white men are carrying weapons to kill other young white men. But let's not stop and search white men because that's rude. Or if a young white man is searched, the police also have to search seven black men, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young white man got stabbed.
Young white men are carrying weapons to kill other young white men. But let's not stop and search white men because that's rude. Or if a young white man is searched, the police also have to search seven black men, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young white man got stabbed. stickmanny
  • Score: -2

1:09pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Walthamster says...

stickmanny wrote:
Young white men are carrying weapons to kill other young white men. But let's not stop and search white men because that's rude. Or if a young white man is searched, the police also have to search seven black men, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young white man got stabbed.
Stickmanny, you obviously don't care about the number of young black men being murdered.

The facts are easy to find. It took me about a minute to find this online:

http://www.citizensr
eportuk.org/news/201
1/02/20/disproportio
nality-of-black-afri
can-and-black-caribb
ean-youth-victims-of
-serious-violence-mu
rder-and-gbh-in-lond
on/
From April 2004 to end of March 2008:
65% of Youth murder victims were Black African or Black Caribbean
12.5 % of Youth murder victims were White European
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: Young white men are carrying weapons to kill other young white men. But let's not stop and search white men because that's rude. Or if a young white man is searched, the police also have to search seven black men, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young white man got stabbed.[/p][/quote]Stickmanny, you obviously don't care about the number of young black men being murdered. The facts are easy to find. It took me about a minute to find this online: http://www.citizensr eportuk.org/news/201 1/02/20/disproportio nality-of-black-afri can-and-black-caribb ean-youth-victims-of -serious-violence-mu rder-and-gbh-in-lond on/ From April 2004 to end of March 2008: 65% of Youth murder victims were Black African or Black Caribbean 12.5 % of Youth murder victims were White European Walthamster
  • Score: 2

3:57pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Walthamster says...

Walthamster wrote:
stickmanny wrote:
Young white men are carrying weapons to kill other young white men. But let's not stop and search white men because that's rude. Or if a young white man is searched, the police also have to search seven black men, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young white man got stabbed.
Stickmanny, you obviously don't care about the number of young black men being murdered.

The facts are easy to find. It took me about a minute to find this online:

http://www.citizensr

eportuk.org/news/201

1/02/20/disproportio

nality-of-black-afri

can-and-black-caribb

ean-youth-victims-of

-serious-violence-mu

rder-and-gbh-in-lond

on/
From April 2004 to end of March 2008:
65% of Youth murder victims were Black African or Black Caribbean
12.5 % of Youth murder victims were White European
To make this clear: these aren't racist murders. This is young black men killing (mainly other young black. From the website above:
"where offenders have been caught and prosecuted, the majority are also Black."
[quote][p][bold]Walthamster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: Young white men are carrying weapons to kill other young white men. But let's not stop and search white men because that's rude. Or if a young white man is searched, the police also have to search seven black men, to make it fair. Ooops - while they were doing that, another young white man got stabbed.[/p][/quote]Stickmanny, you obviously don't care about the number of young black men being murdered. The facts are easy to find. It took me about a minute to find this online: http://www.citizensr eportuk.org/news/201 1/02/20/disproportio nality-of-black-afri can-and-black-caribb ean-youth-victims-of -serious-violence-mu rder-and-gbh-in-lond on/ From April 2004 to end of March 2008: 65% of Youth murder victims were Black African or Black Caribbean 12.5 % of Youth murder victims were White European[/p][/quote]To make this clear: these aren't racist murders. This is young black men killing (mainly other young black. From the website above: "where offenders have been caught and prosecuted, the majority are also Black." Walthamster
  • Score: 2

9:03am Sun 9 Mar 14

Villagecranberry says...

stickmanny wrote:
I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.
Is this your contribution to International Women's Week?
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: I thought again and I'm still against it unless it is intelligence led. When it is not it becomes an excuse to stop black people and hot blondes.[/p][/quote]Is this your contribution to International Women's Week? Villagecranberry
  • Score: -1

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