A planning inspector will chair a hearing tomorrow over the future of the historic Waltham Oak pub in Walthamstow

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An appeal hearing is expected to be attended by dozens of residents tomorrow who are fighting plans to convert a historic pub into a mosque.

The future of the Waltham Oak pub in Lea Bridge Road will be discussed tomorrow as new owner, organisation Faizan-e-Islam, appeals the decision taken by Waltham Forest Council to refuse permission to change the use of the premises.

Despite the pub being shut for more than a year, the council’s planning committee refused the application due to predicted parking congestion and disturbance to residents in October 2013.

Now, the Planning Inspectorate has been called in after the decision was appealed and a hearing will be held tomorrow at Waltham Forest Town Hall at 10am.

People living nearby and ward councillors have requested to speak, along with a representative from The Campaign For Real Ale (CAMRA).

Around 200 people attended the meeting when the original decision was made.

A pub was first built on the site in 1846 and named Little Wonder, after the horse which won the 1840 Derby at odds of 50-1.

It was later renamed the Chestnut Tree in 1863 as Lea Bridge Road was famous for lines of chestnut trees, planted in 1814 and removed in the 1930s.

The pub was bought by the Taylor Walker Brewery in 1899, rebuilt in its present form in 1925 and re-opened as the refurbished Waltham Oak in 2005.

People at the meeting are expected to call for the property to be put back on the market so it can continue to run as a public house.

A final decision may take several weeks.

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12:22pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Villagecranberry says...

They will get permission despite local objection and it will be chaos there like further down the road past the Bakers Arms where traffic is at a stand still on a Friday. Do we really need three mosques, large ones at that on one of the busiest roads in London?
They will get permission despite local objection and it will be chaos there like further down the road past the Bakers Arms where traffic is at a stand still on a Friday. Do we really need three mosques, large ones at that on one of the busiest roads in London? Villagecranberry
  • Score: 36

2:16pm Mon 14 Apr 14

myopinioncounts says...

As usual 'salami tactics' are being used. Buy property that does not have a chance of planning consent then either go ahead with the work applying for retrospective planning consent later or keep appealing until the right decision is made by a friendly planning committee!
As usual 'salami tactics' are being used. Buy property that does not have a chance of planning consent then either go ahead with the work applying for retrospective planning consent later or keep appealing until the right decision is made by a friendly planning committee! myopinioncounts
  • Score: 24

3:11pm Mon 14 Apr 14

ViewpointE4 says...

Article states: "Despite the pub being shut for more than a year, the council’s planning committee refused the application due to predicted parking congestion and disturbance to residents in October 2013"

Will be interesting to see on what grounds they are appealing. Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't recall any large car parking developments in the vicinity over the last six months. Going by memory the car park at the rear of the pub only has space for 8-10 vehicles, so what has changed.

I hope the decision is one that benefits the residents who live in the immediate area and not some politically motivated .farce
Article states: "Despite the pub being shut for more than a year, the council’s planning committee refused the application due to predicted parking congestion and disturbance to residents in October 2013" Will be interesting to see on what grounds they are appealing. Maybe I'm missing something here but I don't recall any large car parking developments in the vicinity over the last six months. Going by memory the car park at the rear of the pub only has space for 8-10 vehicles, so what has changed. I hope the decision is one that benefits the residents who live in the immediate area and not some politically motivated .farce ViewpointE4
  • Score: 23

5:51pm Mon 14 Apr 14

faro0485 says...

I'm more for a free market system. Though that miniholland thing went without a hitch, that's going to excrutiate traffic, a congestion charge wouldn't be unreasonable on traffic heavy days hours.
I'm more for a free market system. Though that miniholland thing went without a hitch, that's going to excrutiate traffic, a congestion charge wouldn't be unreasonable on traffic heavy days hours. faro0485
  • Score: -2

5:52pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Isaythat says...

As you say Viewpoint E4, the traffic situation will only get worse, even without the Mosque, so the decision surely must remain if common sense is to prevail.
Village Cranberry, you said the EMD cinema would never be reinstated, but you were wrong about that, thankfully.
Waltham Forest needs decent pubs serving decent beers, where younger working professionals want to go, serving decent food. Not that I drink beer, but I know many people who go to Woodford for a local pint, because there are no trendy public houses in this area. If LBWF continue with the positive vision for the future of the area, they will see it is vital for the growth to continue. It's all in their hands.
As you say Viewpoint E4, the traffic situation will only get worse, even without the Mosque, so the decision surely must remain if common sense is to prevail. Village Cranberry, you said the EMD cinema would never be reinstated, but you were wrong about that, thankfully. Waltham Forest needs decent pubs serving decent beers, where younger working professionals want to go, serving decent food. Not that I drink beer, but I know many people who go to Woodford for a local pint, because there are no trendy public houses in this area. If LBWF continue with the positive vision for the future of the area, they will see it is vital for the growth to continue. It's all in their hands. Isaythat
  • Score: 8

7:32pm Mon 14 Apr 14

fed up man says...

Its just different groups/sects/tribes/
castes getting their own mosques!!! these mosques are only busy on fridays and ramadan!! otherwise they are empty!!
there are allready more than 5 mosques in walthamstow!!! more than suffiecient for all to pray in!! all about caste/sect/ethnicity etc etc!! The only thing needed is a bit of harmony!!!!!!!!
Its just different groups/sects/tribes/ castes getting their own mosques!!! these mosques are only busy on fridays and ramadan!! otherwise they are empty!! there are allready more than 5 mosques in walthamstow!!! more than suffiecient for all to pray in!! all about caste/sect/ethnicity etc etc!! The only thing needed is a bit of harmony!!!!!!!! fed up man
  • Score: 8

9:50pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Villagecranberry says...

Isaythat wrote:
As you say Viewpoint E4, the traffic situation will only get worse, even without the Mosque, so the decision surely must remain if common sense is to prevail.
Village Cranberry, you said the EMD cinema would never be reinstated, but you were wrong about that, thankfully.
Waltham Forest needs decent pubs serving decent beers, where younger working professionals want to go, serving decent food. Not that I drink beer, but I know many people who go to Woodford for a local pint, because there are no trendy public houses in this area. If LBWF continue with the positive vision for the future of the area, they will see it is vital for the growth to continue. It's all in their hands.
I can't recall mentioning the Granada but it has not yet has it? They do not appear any further forward yet as far as I am aware and drive by it most days. It is still owned by the church as far as I have been told.
[quote][p][bold]Isaythat[/bold] wrote: As you say Viewpoint E4, the traffic situation will only get worse, even without the Mosque, so the decision surely must remain if common sense is to prevail. Village Cranberry, you said the EMD cinema would never be reinstated, but you were wrong about that, thankfully. Waltham Forest needs decent pubs serving decent beers, where younger working professionals want to go, serving decent food. Not that I drink beer, but I know many people who go to Woodford for a local pint, because there are no trendy public houses in this area. If LBWF continue with the positive vision for the future of the area, they will see it is vital for the growth to continue. It's all in their hands.[/p][/quote]I can't recall mentioning the Granada but it has not yet has it? They do not appear any further forward yet as far as I am aware and drive by it most days. It is still owned by the church as far as I have been told. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 2

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