Speed tables along Larkshall Road have been approved by Waltham Forest Council

Controversial traffic measures approved despite objections

Controversial traffic measures approved despite objections

First published in News East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter, covering Chingford, Highams Park and Woodford. Call me on 07795 476 625

Controversial plans for traffic calming measures along a heavily-congested road have been approved.

Following a public consultation late last year, Waltham Forest Council has agreed to install five speed tables in Larkshall Road, between Ropers Avenue and New Road in Chingford.

Residents living along Larkshall Road and the surrounding area questioned the validity of the public consultation, after many claimed they were not given a choice of measures and others said they were unaware of the consultation. 

Last month, ward councillors leafleted the area and collected 94 signatures from residents opposed to the scheme.

The council also received a written letter from Highams Park Planning Group, which represents 350 residents, asking them to re-consider the plans.

Larkswood ward councillor John Moss has said residents have been ignored at every stage of the consultation.

"Once again, Clyde Loakes and the Labour party has decided what is good for us and completely ignored local residents.

"This staggering arrogance in the face of what Keith Hanshaw, the Council’s head of Environment recently confirmed was the first time objections to proposals had been raised at the statutory stage of a consultation, is typical. They do things to us, not for us," said Mr Moss

The council have said the plans will improve safety along the road which has seen seven serious accidents in the last few years.

A spokeswoman said: "The Council has decided to proceed with the traffic calming scheme on Larkshall Road as outlined in the recent consultation.

"The Council will be writing to all those that responded to the consultation explaining the decision and is confident that the measures will create a better road environment for all road users and encourage more use of the highway by vulnerable users, including cyclists and pedestrians.

"This includes making the roads safer with the aim of reducing casualties along the road, and improving the access to services."

Hale End and Highams Park councillor Sheree Rackham has said she is pleased something is being done to ease speeding motorists but added: "I am concerned that the Council is not listening to residents as many were opposed to the scheme.

"There are also many other hot spots in the ward that need to be looked at such as Winchester Road and Oak Hill."

Roadworks are due to start in the coming weeks.

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2:06pm Thu 24 Apr 14

northlondondwg says...

Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406.
Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406. northlondondwg
  • Score: -20

3:18pm Thu 24 Apr 14

driftingcowboy says...

Let us hope that these new road humps are superior to the many other low-level ones installed across the borough a few years ago and which are no use at all in reducing speeding traffic. Hundreds of thousands of pounds were wasted on these low-level road humps and since then no-one in the council has admitted the fault and nothing has been done to improve them.
Let us hope that these new road humps are superior to the many other low-level ones installed across the borough a few years ago and which are no use at all in reducing speeding traffic. Hundreds of thousands of pounds were wasted on these low-level road humps and since then no-one in the council has admitted the fault and nothing has been done to improve them. driftingcowboy
  • Score: 12

3:38pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Sam Hain says...

Have you ever been over these speed tables on a bus? Don't sit at the back is my advice!
Have you ever been over these speed tables on a bus? Don't sit at the back is my advice! Sam Hain
  • Score: 20

4:18pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Villagecranberry says...

So the Nimbys get their way and will now drive down rat runs to avoid the humps of their own making.
So the Nimbys get their way and will now drive down rat runs to avoid the humps of their own making. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -20

4:43pm Thu 24 Apr 14

chingford lad says...

northlondondwg wrote:
Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406.
The only reason that the `south of the borough` is `languishing in near 3rd world poverty` is that the residents continually return the labour party to office who unlike the conservatives never look after their own.
[quote][p][bold]northlondondwg[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406.[/p][/quote]The only reason that the `south of the borough` is `languishing in near 3rd world poverty` is that the residents continually return the labour party to office who unlike the conservatives never look after their own. chingford lad
  • Score: 15

1:20am Fri 25 Apr 14

Ferdy54 says...

Well done stupid council. Slow down a main road in the borough. And New Road, another main road, is also going to be slowed down. And they want most roads to be 20mph!!!

Then when they get cars going so slow they'll say theres too much pollution and probably close roads off!!!
Well done stupid council. Slow down a main road in the borough. And New Road, another main road, is also going to be slowed down. And they want most roads to be 20mph!!! Then when they get cars going so slow they'll say theres too much pollution and probably close roads off!!! Ferdy54
  • Score: 8

10:10am Fri 25 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

northlondondwg wrote:
Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406.
well said
[quote][p][bold]northlondondwg[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406.[/p][/quote]well said kirstywright
  • Score: -10

10:30am Fri 25 Apr 14

Howard Wolowitz says...

Maybe it would be money better spent filling in the pot holes.
Maybe it would be money better spent filling in the pot holes. Howard Wolowitz
  • Score: 7

10:33am Fri 25 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

Depends what you want - rushing down to tesco or highams park station to catch your morning train - or having measures that statistics prove save lives - if a car hits you at 20mph you are more likely to survive then if it hit you at 30mph - Larkshall road is and always has been a race track with lots of accidents due to speeding ( I lived there for 20 years) - and very dangerous to cross for hundreds of schoolkids/shoppers/
O.A.Ps, only yesterday a 212 bus drove up on the pavement to avoid a car - if the drivers adhere to the speed limit and got off their mobiles this consultation would not have had to take place in the first place. The council acted on several complaints, they don't do it to annoy people willy nilly - at the end of the day I'm glad the council are doing something and there is nothing stupid in slowing down another main road as one comment has put, remember last month the road was closed for several hours due to an accident, causing chaos everywhere else, less haste more speed springs to mind - if you object to safety measures that can save lives I think that it says more about you. well done WFC
Depends what you want - rushing down to tesco or highams park station to catch your morning train - or having measures that statistics prove save lives - if a car hits you at 20mph you are more likely to survive then if it hit you at 30mph - Larkshall road is and always has been a race track with lots of accidents due to speeding ( I lived there for 20 years) - and very dangerous to cross for hundreds of schoolkids/shoppers/ O.A.Ps, only yesterday a 212 bus drove up on the pavement to avoid a car - if the drivers adhere to the speed limit and got off their mobiles this consultation would not have had to take place in the first place. The council acted on several complaints, they don't do it to annoy people willy nilly - at the end of the day I'm glad the council are doing something and there is nothing stupid in slowing down another main road as one comment has put, remember last month the road was closed for several hours due to an accident, causing chaos everywhere else, less haste more speed springs to mind - if you object to safety measures that can save lives I think that it says more about you. well done WFC kirstywright
  • Score: -4

11:04am Fri 25 Apr 14

Howard Wolowitz says...

How about the police monitoring the speeding motorists and the law being toughened to remove mobiles from drivers who have been caught using them while driving. How about banning speeding motorists.

Once again the majority are penalised by dragging everybody down to the LCD.
Safety is paramount if you continue your theme Kirsty you might as well ban all vehicles as that would be the safest option. A line has to be drawn in the sand, humps all over the borough in my opinion is not the answer. Proper sentencing and fines of perpetrators would help.
How about the police monitoring the speeding motorists and the law being toughened to remove mobiles from drivers who have been caught using them while driving. How about banning speeding motorists. Once again the majority are penalised by dragging everybody down to the LCD. Safety is paramount if you continue your theme Kirsty you might as well ban all vehicles as that would be the safest option. A line has to be drawn in the sand, humps all over the borough in my opinion is not the answer. Proper sentencing and fines of perpetrators would help. Howard Wolowitz
  • Score: 3

12:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

myopinioncounts says...

I hope the speed cushions will be a better quality than those in Coppermill Lane and the surrounding roads. Many of the panels are lifting, bolts are missing or sticking up and scrape the underside of some cars.They do not stop larger vehicles from exceeding the 20mph limit as they are wide enough to straddle the cushions, or car drivers who do not value their suspension. Markings to warn of their presence wear out and are not renewed. The only people they inconvenience are drivers who obey the speed limits anyway.
I hope the speed cushions will be a better quality than those in Coppermill Lane and the surrounding roads. Many of the panels are lifting, bolts are missing or sticking up and scrape the underside of some cars.They do not stop larger vehicles from exceeding the 20mph limit as they are wide enough to straddle the cushions, or car drivers who do not value their suspension. Markings to warn of their presence wear out and are not renewed. The only people they inconvenience are drivers who obey the speed limits anyway. myopinioncounts
  • Score: 4

12:55pm Fri 25 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

whilst I agree with you Howard - more police out catching speeding motorist and heavy punishment for mobiles great, I would like one outside my street all day to stop crime what a fantasy world that would be -but in reality the police don't have the resources cuts cuts cuts is all you hear - we have the highway code - we have driving tests - we have maximum speed limits we have THE LAW - but we all know drivers flout these laws because they can and know chances of being caught are minimum - so unless we can afford to have a policeman on every corner what can we do - its not about removing traffic its about getting the right balance at the right cost - speed cameras do not stop stolen or ringed cars from speeding plus you need at least 3 deaths in one street before a camera is considered ( any volunteers). We do ban speeding motorist when they reach 12 points but they still drive unless we put them under house arrest oh no i forgot that's against EU human rights can't do that, and your right, because of these morons we all suffer - it is only going to be 3 SPEED TABLES not HUMPS at various points along the road to stop the momentum of those who exceed the limit - it should make no difference to the majority of people like ourselves who keep within the speed limits. but what it will do is make the drivers doing 40/50/60mph have to put their foot on the brake otherwise they end up with a damaged car.
whilst I agree with you Howard - more police out catching speeding motorist and heavy punishment for mobiles great, I would like one outside my street all day to stop crime what a fantasy world that would be -but in reality the police don't have the resources cuts cuts cuts is all you hear - we have the highway code - we have driving tests - we have maximum speed limits we have THE LAW - but we all know drivers flout these laws because they can and know chances of being caught are minimum - so unless we can afford to have a policeman on every corner what can we do - its not about removing traffic its about getting the right balance at the right cost - speed cameras do not stop stolen or ringed cars from speeding plus you need at least 3 deaths in one street before a camera is considered ( any volunteers). We do ban speeding motorist when they reach 12 points but they still drive unless we put them under house arrest oh no i forgot that's against EU human rights can't do that, and your right, because of these morons we all suffer - it is only going to be 3 SPEED TABLES not HUMPS at various points along the road to stop the momentum of those who exceed the limit - it should make no difference to the majority of people like ourselves who keep within the speed limits. but what it will do is make the drivers doing 40/50/60mph have to put their foot on the brake otherwise they end up with a damaged car. kirstywright
  • Score: 5

3:14pm Fri 25 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

myopinioncounts wrote:
I hope the speed cushions will be a better quality than those in Coppermill Lane and the surrounding roads. Many of the panels are lifting, bolts are missing or sticking up and scrape the underside of some cars.They do not stop larger vehicles from exceeding the 20mph limit as they are wide enough to straddle the cushions, or car drivers who do not value their suspension. Markings to warn of their presence wear out and are not renewed. The only people they inconvenience are drivers who obey the speed limits anyway.
there doing 3 speed tables NOT cushions every few yards- they are different altogether - where you drive up a small ramp then along flat bit and then down a small ramp - like they have outside the harvester pub in new road.
[quote][p][bold]myopinioncounts[/bold] wrote: I hope the speed cushions will be a better quality than those in Coppermill Lane and the surrounding roads. Many of the panels are lifting, bolts are missing or sticking up and scrape the underside of some cars.They do not stop larger vehicles from exceeding the 20mph limit as they are wide enough to straddle the cushions, or car drivers who do not value their suspension. Markings to warn of their presence wear out and are not renewed. The only people they inconvenience are drivers who obey the speed limits anyway.[/p][/quote]there doing 3 speed tables NOT cushions every few yards- they are different altogether - where you drive up a small ramp then along flat bit and then down a small ramp - like they have outside the harvester pub in new road. kirstywright
  • Score: 5

4:21pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Ferdy54 says...

There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church.

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There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church. https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%202-North.pd f https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%201-South.pd f Ferdy54
  • Score: 3

4:28pm Fri 25 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

Ferdy54 wrote:
There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church.

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thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses.
[quote][p][bold]Ferdy54[/bold] wrote: There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church. https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%202-North.pd f https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%201-South.pd f[/p][/quote]thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses. kirstywright
  • Score: -1

4:46pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Howard Wolowitz says...

I was surprised recently to learn that Coolgardie Avenue is not in a CPZ as it is but a short stroll to the station.
I was surprised recently to learn that Coolgardie Avenue is not in a CPZ as it is but a short stroll to the station. Howard Wolowitz
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Villagecranberry says...

kirstywright wrote:
Ferdy54 wrote:
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thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses.
Why are you such a Nimby? I bet you have no second thoughts about using the surrounding streets as a rat run yourself. You should campaign for more law enforcement instead of obstacles.

You will next be complaining about increased traffic fumes because the traffic has been reduced to a stand still.
[quote][p][bold]kirstywright[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ferdy54[/bold] wrote: There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church. https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%202-North.pd f https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%201-South.pd f[/p][/quote]thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses.[/p][/quote]Why are you such a Nimby? I bet you have no second thoughts about using the surrounding streets as a rat run yourself. You should campaign for more law enforcement instead of obstacles. You will next be complaining about increased traffic fumes because the traffic has been reduced to a stand still. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -6

8:51pm Fri 25 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
kirstywright wrote:
Ferdy54 wrote:
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thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses.
Why are you such a Nimby? I bet you have no second thoughts about using the surrounding streets as a rat run yourself. You should campaign for more law enforcement instead of obstacles.

You will next be complaining about increased traffic fumes because the traffic has been reduced to a stand still.
nimbys -- rat runs what are you on about, try walking or get the bus/tube but thats so expensive thanks to boris and co - its about safety -- why do speed tables bother you so much - campaign for more law enforcement with this government... dream on
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kirstywright[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ferdy54[/bold] wrote: There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church. https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%202-North.pd f https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%201-South.pd f[/p][/quote]thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses.[/p][/quote]Why are you such a Nimby? I bet you have no second thoughts about using the surrounding streets as a rat run yourself. You should campaign for more law enforcement instead of obstacles. You will next be complaining about increased traffic fumes because the traffic has been reduced to a stand still.[/p][/quote]nimbys -- rat runs what are you on about, try walking or get the bus/tube but thats so expensive thanks to boris and co - its about safety -- why do speed tables bother you so much - campaign for more law enforcement with this government... dream on kirstywright
  • Score: 2

11:17pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Villagecranberry says...

kirstywright wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
kirstywright wrote:
Ferdy54 wrote:
There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church.

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thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses.
Why are you such a Nimby? I bet you have no second thoughts about using the surrounding streets as a rat run yourself. You should campaign for more law enforcement instead of obstacles.

You will next be complaining about increased traffic fumes because the traffic has been reduced to a stand still.
nimbys -- rat runs what are you on about, try walking or get the bus/tube but thats so expensive thanks to boris and co - its about safety -- why do speed tables bother you so much - campaign for more law enforcement with this government... dream on
You are a busybody in an unreal world.

Some people have to work for a living.
[quote][p][bold]kirstywright[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kirstywright[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ferdy54[/bold] wrote: There's actually going to be 5 speed tables. There's 4 on these plans and another one is going to be at the pedestrian crossing outside St Ann's Church. https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%202-North.pd f https://www.walthamf orest.gov.uk/Documen ts/Consultation%20Pr oposals%201-South.pd f[/p][/quote]thats good more the better - it is a long road. all we want now is to stop commuter parking for highams park station and maybe the residents will have a better street with somewhere to park outside their own houses.[/p][/quote]Why are you such a Nimby? I bet you have no second thoughts about using the surrounding streets as a rat run yourself. You should campaign for more law enforcement instead of obstacles. You will next be complaining about increased traffic fumes because the traffic has been reduced to a stand still.[/p][/quote]nimbys -- rat runs what are you on about, try walking or get the bus/tube but thats so expensive thanks to boris and co - its about safety -- why do speed tables bother you so much - campaign for more law enforcement with this government... dream on[/p][/quote]You are a busybody in an unreal world. Some people have to work for a living. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -9

8:15am Sat 26 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

L.O.L
L.O.L kirstywright
  • Score: 5

8:20am Sat 26 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

so THATS what its all about rushing to work - and sod the pedestrians . nice one very logical.
so THATS what its all about rushing to work - and sod the pedestrians . nice one very logical. kirstywright
  • Score: 7

11:58am Sat 26 Apr 14

HottRedMan says...

It does not matter what. Whenever they do something, no consultation is bothered with. Have you EVER seen any consultation done by the council and it has gone against their favour in terms of road measures etc.
They do not care, they are on an agenda to fill J.B. Riney's pockets as deep as possible with tax payers money and look at all aspects of he borough to waste money on daft road schemes.

In protest I am going to take that road at 59mph now up and down until they put the humps in. I may as well make the most of it.
It does not matter what. Whenever they do something, no consultation is bothered with. Have you EVER seen any consultation done by the council and it has gone against their favour in terms of road measures etc. They do not care, they are on an agenda to fill J.B. Riney's pockets as deep as possible with tax payers money and look at all aspects of he borough to waste money on daft road schemes. In protest I am going to take that road at 59mph now up and down until they put the humps in. I may as well make the most of it. HottRedMan
  • Score: -10

3:56pm Sat 26 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

59mph ----is that on your skateboard or bmx bike
59mph ----is that on your skateboard or bmx bike kirstywright
  • Score: 8

4:03pm Sat 26 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

Howard Wolowitz wrote:
I was surprised recently to learn that Coolgardie Avenue is not in a CPZ as it is but a short stroll to the station.
a CPZ in coolgardie and Larkshall road , oh heaven - that will stop all the 4x4 drivers parking outside our house all day cause they are too tight to pay train fare from chingford station in zone 5 whilst they struggle off to work - I'll get on to cllr Rackham straight away. good idea thanks, from nimby kirsty
[quote][p][bold]Howard Wolowitz[/bold] wrote: I was surprised recently to learn that Coolgardie Avenue is not in a CPZ as it is but a short stroll to the station.[/p][/quote]a CPZ in coolgardie and Larkshall road , oh heaven - that will stop all the 4x4 drivers parking outside our house all day cause they are too tight to pay train fare from chingford station in zone 5 whilst they struggle off to work - I'll get on to cllr Rackham straight away. good idea thanks, from nimby kirsty kirstywright
  • Score: 4

5:21pm Sat 26 Apr 14

Woodford79 says...

A main road has got speed restrictions.
Hope they do not hinder the emergency services travelling to incidents where an extra few seconds can make the difference between life and death.
A main road has got speed restrictions. Hope they do not hinder the emergency services travelling to incidents where an extra few seconds can make the difference between life and death. Woodford79
  • Score: 3

8:31am Sun 27 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

a main road has got restrictions --- sadly some numptys dont adhere to it - hence the speeding measures - so whos to blame - the speeding drivers - sadly under Osbourne budget we cant afford extra police to catch them -- Boris is shutting all the fire stations - the NHS is falling apart thanks to Cameron's reform so you will be lucky to see an emergency vehicle soon anyway.
a main road has got restrictions --- sadly some numptys dont adhere to it - hence the speeding measures - so whos to blame - the speeding drivers - sadly under Osbourne budget we cant afford extra police to catch them -- Boris is shutting all the fire stations - the NHS is falling apart thanks to Cameron's reform so you will be lucky to see an emergency vehicle soon anyway. kirstywright
  • Score: 4

8:37am Sun 27 Apr 14

northlondondwg says...

The bottom line is that until Chingford stops voting Tory or the rest of the borough starts, then you will get no say. I have it on good authority that the CPZ in North Chingford was only voted for by residents on one of the streets and Clyde Loakes went ahead under the cover of "parking transfer" to put one in as a way of asserting Labours power in a Tory Stronghold. The more people from chingford complain the more likely these proposals will be signed off by the Councilors.
The bottom line is that until Chingford stops voting Tory or the rest of the borough starts, then you will get no say. I have it on good authority that the CPZ in North Chingford was only voted for by residents on one of the streets and Clyde Loakes went ahead under the cover of "parking transfer" to put one in as a way of asserting Labours power in a Tory Stronghold. The more people from chingford complain the more likely these proposals will be signed off by the Councilors. northlondondwg
  • Score: 3

3:21pm Sun 27 Apr 14

Thunderbird4 says...

If there's an accident on a speed table, will the council put a speed table on that speed table? And if there's an accident on that speed table . . etc.. Might end up with a stepped pyramid.

Alternately, if the accident is on the original road section, will the council put a speed table in that? It would be like going over a cattle grid. But not to worry, the council would treat the dips as potholes and leave them.
If there's an accident on a speed table, will the council put a speed table on that speed table? And if there's an accident on that speed table . . etc.. Might end up with a stepped pyramid. Alternately, if the accident is on the original road section, will the council put a speed table in that? It would be like going over a cattle grid. But not to worry, the council would treat the dips as potholes and leave them. Thunderbird4
  • Score: 0

9:26am Tue 29 Apr 14

Silent Majority 2009 says...

How much longer will it be before we wake up to find white van man can't get around the Borough so we can no longer get a plumber, electrician or decoorator? If Loakes has his way they will all be coming on their bikes! Make sure you vote for a party that will stop this nonsense but above all make sure you vote!
How much longer will it be before we wake up to find white van man can't get around the Borough so we can no longer get a plumber, electrician or decoorator? If Loakes has his way they will all be coming on their bikes! Make sure you vote for a party that will stop this nonsense but above all make sure you vote! Silent Majority 2009
  • Score: -2

12:33pm Tue 29 Apr 14

fabster says...

The speed humps on Coppermill Lane had chunks loose and missing. In fact 2 sections at 2 separate humps were missing for well over a year, with screws & sharp metal edges left exposed until a Thames Water vehicle ended up with a flat tyre. Instead of replacing the missing section, the council have cut cost and have tarmac'ed over them, leaving them ugly as sin. The bicycle-friendly humps are useless anyway as most vehicles' 4 wheels are wide enough to avoid them. So the question is: why introduce more of the same if it is proven ineffective and the maintenance budget isn't there to ensure they are kept in working and safe order?
The speed humps on Coppermill Lane had chunks loose and missing. In fact 2 sections at 2 separate humps were missing for well over a year, with screws & sharp metal edges left exposed until a Thames Water vehicle ended up with a flat tyre. Instead of replacing the missing section, the council have cut cost and have tarmac'ed over them, leaving them ugly as sin. The bicycle-friendly humps are useless anyway as most vehicles' 4 wheels are wide enough to avoid them. So the question is: why introduce more of the same if it is proven ineffective and the maintenance budget isn't there to ensure they are kept in working and safe order? fabster
  • Score: 0

3:11pm Tue 29 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

Silent Majority 2009 wrote:
How much longer will it be before we wake up to find white van man can't get around the Borough so we can no longer get a plumber, electrician or decoorator? If Loakes has his way they will all be coming on their bikes! Make sure you vote for a party that will stop this nonsense but above all make sure you vote!
why can't white van man get around the borough ? - the roads aren't being shut are they, they are just being made safer for ALL road users not just white van man - or is the truth that now white van man wont be able to rush from job to job like a possessed driver anymore whilst on his mobile and eating a macdonalds.
[quote][p][bold]Silent Majority 2009[/bold] wrote: How much longer will it be before we wake up to find white van man can't get around the Borough so we can no longer get a plumber, electrician or decoorator? If Loakes has his way they will all be coming on their bikes! Make sure you vote for a party that will stop this nonsense but above all make sure you vote![/p][/quote]why can't white van man get around the borough ? - the roads aren't being shut are they, they are just being made safer for ALL road users not just white van man - or is the truth that now white van man wont be able to rush from job to job like a possessed driver anymore whilst on his mobile and eating a macdonalds. kirstywright
  • Score: 1

3:31pm Tue 29 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

Woodford79 wrote:
A main road has got speed restrictions.
Hope they do not hinder the emergency services travelling to incidents where an extra few seconds can make the difference between life and death.
true. but travelling at 40 to 50MPH down Larkshall in a 30mph zone can also be a matter of live and death if you get hit either driving walking or cycling - so again whose to blame for this speed measure going ahead - most residents of both roads want this in place regardless of the Tory spin on the story only about 90 odd people objected to the council from the whole length of the road. thats why its going ahead - im not advocating speed tables but what else can be done .other then a copper with a speed gun 24/7 and we know thats not possible.
[quote][p][bold]Woodford79[/bold] wrote: A main road has got speed restrictions. Hope they do not hinder the emergency services travelling to incidents where an extra few seconds can make the difference between life and death.[/p][/quote]true. but travelling at 40 to 50MPH down Larkshall in a 30mph zone can also be a matter of live and death if you get hit either driving walking or cycling - so again whose to blame for this speed measure going ahead - most residents of both roads want this in place regardless of the Tory spin on the story only about 90 odd people objected to the council from the whole length of the road. thats why its going ahead - im not advocating speed tables but what else can be done .other then a copper with a speed gun 24/7 and we know thats not possible. kirstywright
  • Score: 1

3:33pm Tue 29 Apr 14

kirstywright says...

chingford lad wrote:
northlondondwg wrote:
Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406.
The only reason that the `south of the borough` is `languishing in near 3rd world poverty` is that the residents continually return the labour party to office who unlike the conservatives never look after their own.
thats true the tories do look after their own - just look at the tax breaks for the rich .
[quote][p][bold]chingford lad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]northlondondwg[/bold] wrote: Stop whinging! Typical people in north or the borough! Don't want speed tables to slow down their BMWs And TOWIE tractors. You should be thankful that a benevolent labour council gifted you with measures that will actually protect you, when the south of the borough is languishing in near 3rd world poverty! I'd start begging for some of this £30000000 cycling money now if lived north of the a406.[/p][/quote]The only reason that the `south of the borough` is `languishing in near 3rd world poverty` is that the residents continually return the labour party to office who unlike the conservatives never look after their own.[/p][/quote]thats true the tories do look after their own - just look at the tax breaks for the rich . kirstywright
  • Score: 3

4:31pm Thu 1 May 14

kirstywright says...

Cllr John Moss is wrong yet again when he says the residents and I quote "ignored at every stage of the consultation" I live in the road - I received leaflets about the scheme I received consultation letter giving me a chance to write down any concerns and return them to the council- I attended the PUBLIC meeting at the library which was clearly advertised to all residents where we all had a chance to argue for against with WFC members , environment and regeneration staff.-- I received the outcome of the consultation which show 2 to 1 people wanted the scheme. ROAD SAFETY is not a political football - all party's should work together on this and not try to score voting points or inflate ones own ego's - I'm really angry with the Tories over this who in the main have done a good job for Highams Park - but this intervention is losing you votes. In fact had the scheme not been delayed then maybe that young woman and child in a pushchair would not have been knocked over in March causing the closure of the road for several hours -- Take a bow MR Moss.
Cllr John Moss is wrong yet again when he says the residents and I quote "ignored at every stage of the consultation" I live in the road - I received leaflets about the scheme I received consultation letter giving me a chance to write down any concerns and return them to the council- I attended the PUBLIC meeting at the library which was clearly advertised to all residents where we all had a chance to argue for against with WFC members , environment and regeneration staff.-- I received the outcome of the consultation which show 2 to 1 people wanted the scheme. ROAD SAFETY is not a political football - all party's should work together on this and not try to score voting points or inflate ones own ego's - I'm really angry with the Tories over this who in the main have done a good job for Highams Park - but this intervention is losing you votes. In fact had the scheme not been delayed then maybe that young woman and child in a pushchair would not have been knocked over in March causing the closure of the road for several hours -- Take a bow MR Moss. kirstywright
  • Score: 2

5:02pm Thu 1 May 14

Thunderbird4 says...

When all the roads are filled with traffic calming measures - perhaps because the authorities do not monitor/fine/ban, repeat offenders - then the road contractors will be lobbying to asphalt the cycle lanes.
When all the roads are filled with traffic calming measures - perhaps because the authorities do not monitor/fine/ban, repeat offenders - then the road contractors will be lobbying to asphalt the cycle lanes. Thunderbird4
  • Score: 0

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