Parents set up rival Facebook pages over Downsell School's performance

Downsell Primary School

Downsell Primary School

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Parents of primary school pupils are involved in a Facebook spat over the quality of their children’s education.

In recent weeks parents of pupils attending Downsell Primary School, in Downsell Road, Leyton, have taken to their keyboards to praise or defend staff in two opposing online groups.

A group, Team Parents of Downsell, was started by parent Amira Yusuf, who is unhappy at the school’s performance.

Ms Yusuf claims she has been stopped from petitioning outside the school and asked to leave the premises.

In posts on the page, which has 300 followers, she insists many families previously afraid to speak out have contacted her with concerns.

She claims headteacher, Terrance Nairne, is not popular and he does not make enough effort to interact with parents.

She wrote: “Having a lot of parents come up to me recently to say they were afraid to speak out just in case they would be penalised by the school, as I am.

“The school has done its best to discredit my opinion but it has backfired.

“A lot of parents did not know who the headteacher was.”

However, another group, Downsell Primary School Parents, has been set up in support of staff.

Parent Asma Nawaz wrote: “Both of my children attend Downsell Primary and I am very pleased at their progress.

“They are doing very well and the teachers do a brilliant job.”

Anna Smith posted that teachers are “very helpful” and her child is happy there.

Some of the 300 members claim that they are being “harassed” into signing a petition to remove a senior member of school staff.

One parent, Harry Haroon, called the petition a “witch hunt”.

On Monday, Ofsted inspector Kevin Flanagan wrote to the school to say improvements had been made since the school was judged inadequate last year.

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6:14pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Techno3 says...

My goodness. People expressing a range of views in public. We can't have that. Whatever next? Adults taking part in a 'democracy'?
My goodness. People expressing a range of views in public. We can't have that. Whatever next? Adults taking part in a 'democracy'? Techno3
  • Score: 5

7:59pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Villagecranberry says...

Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works.
Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 5

10:01pm Wed 30 Apr 14

stickmanny says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works.
You hypocrite.

No wait... Cornbeefur you LYING HYPOCRITE.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works.[/p][/quote]You hypocrite. No wait... Cornbeefur you LYING HYPOCRITE. stickmanny
  • Score: -6

11:32pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Villagecranberry says...

stickmanny wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works.
You hypocrite.

No wait... Cornbeefur you LYING HYPOCRITE.
You had another turn Sickmanny?

Have a lie down in a dark room, deep breaths, in, out, in, out. Repeat, 'I must not lose my rag, must not throw my teddy in corner'.
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works.[/p][/quote]You hypocrite. No wait... Cornbeefur you LYING HYPOCRITE.[/p][/quote]You had another turn Sickmanny? Have a lie down in a dark room, deep breaths, in, out, in, out. Repeat, 'I must not lose my rag, must not throw my teddy in corner'. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 2

11:54pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Nairn says...

I wonder how many of the parents who are complaining about the school's performance last year (Nov 2013) have read the Section 8 inspection report published by Ofsted this Monday, as the last sentence of this article? The school has made improvements in all areas deemed to be requiring improving in 4 months (less if you include school holidays) which should be commended not condemned. The staff and governors have obviously worked very hard to make these improvements. Had they not, the school would be in a very serious position today; a much worse position than it was in November 2013.

So I send my congratulations to the staff and governors and to the parents who still feel the school is not good enough, it's getting there and it's getting there very quickly.
I wonder how many of the parents who are complaining about the school's performance last year (Nov 2013) have read the Section 8 inspection report published by Ofsted this Monday, as the last sentence of this article? The school has made improvements in all areas deemed to be requiring improving in 4 months (less if you include school holidays) which should be commended not condemned. The staff and governors have obviously worked very hard to make these improvements. Had they not, the school would be in a very serious position today; a much worse position than it was in November 2013. So I send my congratulations to the staff and governors and to the parents who still feel the school is not good enough, it's getting there and it's getting there very quickly. Nairn
  • Score: 9

11:09am Fri 2 May 14

stickmanny says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
stickmanny wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works.
You hypocrite.

No wait... Cornbeefur you LYING HYPOCRITE.
You had another turn Sickmanny?

Have a lie down in a dark room, deep breaths, in, out, in, out. Repeat, 'I must not lose my rag, must not throw my teddy in corner'.
Don't worry I'm enjoying myself
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: Maybe those who are unhappy can take their negativity away from the scool by clearing off instead of putting a spanner in the works.[/p][/quote]You hypocrite. No wait... Cornbeefur you LYING HYPOCRITE.[/p][/quote]You had another turn Sickmanny? Have a lie down in a dark room, deep breaths, in, out, in, out. Repeat, 'I must not lose my rag, must not throw my teddy in corner'.[/p][/quote]Don't worry I'm enjoying myself stickmanny
  • Score: 0

7:04pm Tue 6 May 14

allowedmyopinion says...

Improving not dramaticly improving. Just improved and surely a primary school that is indeed good should not have an inadequate rating in the first place. Perhaps it does need a shake up of staff andparents highlighting the floors. I wouldnt want my child in a school that is indeed inadequate! How do they get that bad I the first place oh of course the staff that are apparently amazing!
Improving not dramaticly improving. Just improved and surely a primary school that is indeed good should not have an inadequate rating in the first place. Perhaps it does need a shake up of staff andparents highlighting the floors. I wouldnt want my child in a school that is indeed inadequate! How do they get that bad I the first place oh of course the staff that are apparently amazing! allowedmyopinion
  • Score: 0

8:12pm Tue 6 May 14

Nairn says...

allowedmyopinion wrote:
Improving not dramaticly improving. Just improved and surely a primary school that is indeed good should not have an inadequate rating in the first place. Perhaps it does need a shake up of staff andparents highlighting the floors. I wouldnt want my child in a school that is indeed inadequate! How do they get that bad I the first place oh of course the staff that are apparently amazing!
Sorry but who said it was dramatically improving? Who said the staff were amazing? Has a comment been removed from here or are you referring to what you think I said but, in fact (rather than opinion) if you re-read my comment, I said nothing of the sort.

No school should have an inadequate rating but some do. Its a fact of life in the same way as the fact is also that not all people are perfect. Some have even worse ratings than inadequate and are put into special measures. Downsell is nowhere near that position if you look at its past Ofsted reports and the section 8 report. And this is not my OPINION, this is based on the facts as presented by Ofsted. Admittedly Ofsted reports and RAISEonline (from which Ofsted gets a school's performance figures as well as pupil attendance, pupil behaviour, school management - finances, personnel, buildings etc etc and it is difficult to understand unless someone works in education or is a governor or parents who look at such things. RAISEonline is so complicated that anyone who uses it (gets the correct information from it) and has had the training to read and interpret the data.

But this is how governments over the years have 'measured' schools. And this is why schools are giving these gradings.

Parents highlighting the floors (flaws?) will help if done in a constructive way - not just saying how rubbish the school is but making suggestions on how it can improve and what parents are willing to do to help the school improve. A good or outstanding school has the support of ALL people involved in it - staff, parents, children, governors, non-teaching staff and the local authority - all working as a team and not against each other.
[quote][p][bold]allowedmyopinion[/bold] wrote: Improving not dramaticly improving. Just improved and surely a primary school that is indeed good should not have an inadequate rating in the first place. Perhaps it does need a shake up of staff andparents highlighting the floors. I wouldnt want my child in a school that is indeed inadequate! How do they get that bad I the first place oh of course the staff that are apparently amazing![/p][/quote]Sorry but who said it was dramatically improving? Who said the staff were amazing? Has a comment been removed from here or are you referring to what you think I said but, in fact (rather than opinion) if you re-read my comment, I said nothing of the sort. No school should have an inadequate rating but some do. Its a fact of life in the same way as the fact is also that not all people are perfect. Some have even worse ratings than inadequate and are put into special measures. Downsell is nowhere near that position if you look at its past Ofsted reports and the section 8 report. And this is not my OPINION, this is based on the facts as presented by Ofsted. Admittedly Ofsted reports and RAISEonline (from which Ofsted gets a school's performance figures as well as pupil attendance, pupil behaviour, school management - finances, personnel, buildings etc etc and it is difficult to understand unless someone works in education or is a governor or parents who look at such things. RAISEonline is so complicated that anyone who uses it (gets the correct information from it) and has had the training to read and interpret the data. But this is how governments over the years have 'measured' schools. And this is why schools are giving these gradings. Parents highlighting the floors (flaws?) will help if done in a constructive way - not just saying how rubbish the school is but making suggestions on how it can improve and what parents are willing to do to help the school improve. A good or outstanding school has the support of ALL people involved in it - staff, parents, children, governors, non-teaching staff and the local authority - all working as a team and not against each other. Nairn
  • Score: 4

10:40am Wed 7 May 14

allowedmyopinion says...

Have you ever heard of predictive text? Floors was an oversight and my personal grammatical errors are not the issue. But thanks for pointing it out. Your correct not everyones perfect. Besides that my comment was based on an opinion of a school not aimed at an individual. Lets face facts here its a school in a poor area therefore the standards are low and our country allows for them to have poor and inadequate ratings. Allows the same people that got them there to try and change it. Surely the priority in this situation should be the children placed in their care. And the fact that the government should be funding for better education and care in 'poor' areas.
Have you ever heard of predictive text? Floors was an oversight and my personal grammatical errors are not the issue. But thanks for pointing it out. Your correct not everyones perfect. Besides that my comment was based on an opinion of a school not aimed at an individual. Lets face facts here its a school in a poor area therefore the standards are low and our country allows for them to have poor and inadequate ratings. Allows the same people that got them there to try and change it. Surely the priority in this situation should be the children placed in their care. And the fact that the government should be funding for better education and care in 'poor' areas. allowedmyopinion
  • Score: 1

10:37pm Wed 7 May 14

Nairn says...

Yes have heard of predictive text. Presumably 'your' was a mis-predictive text for the correct word in your sentence which is 'you're'? Do you not bother checking what you write before you send it? Would think that kind of thing would be really important to someone who wants to show how bad local education is in comparison

Your assumptions about investment in schools in this area are wrong as are your assumptions about about standards being particularly low in this area. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. I am not voicing any opinion but merely the facts, facts based statistics and data (including patient opinion) on the overall high standard of schools in this area. Many of our local schools (and therefore our children) are performing at, or above, national averages. The national averages come from looking at schools all over the country including schools in rich, very rich, poor and very poor areas. So the 'grading' or ratings of schools has nothing to do with the economics of a place. Not all schools in rich parts of the country are outstanding or even good. There are 'inadequate' schools in these parts of the country too .

But hey. why bother with the facts? Much easier just to have an opinion that isn't based on getting the facts isn't it?
Yes have heard of predictive text. Presumably 'your' was a mis-predictive text for the correct word in your sentence which is 'you're'? Do you not bother checking what you write before you send it? Would think that kind of thing would be really important to someone who wants to show how bad local education is in comparison Your assumptions about investment in schools in this area are wrong as are your assumptions about about standards being particularly low in this area. Of course you are entitled to your opinion. I am not voicing any opinion but merely the facts, facts based statistics and data (including patient opinion) on the overall high standard of schools in this area. Many of our local schools (and therefore our children) are performing at, or above, national averages. The national averages come from looking at schools all over the country including schools in rich, very rich, poor and very poor areas. So the 'grading' or ratings of schools has nothing to do with the economics of a place. Not all schools in rich parts of the country are outstanding or even good. There are 'inadequate' schools in these parts of the country too . But hey. why bother with the facts? Much easier just to have an opinion that isn't based on getting the facts isn't it? Nairn
  • Score: 1

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