Mateusz Odrobny speaks of pride after working on Hitchcock mural

The mural in Leytonstone High Road

Artist Mateusz Odrobny spent three weeks hand-painting the birds

Mr Odrobny included at the last minute to add a portrait of Hitchcock to the eye of the biggest bird

Depiction of actress Tippi Hedren seen cowering from the birds

Mr Odrobny is a traditional signwriter

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A painter has spoken of his pride at working on a mural tribute to Alfred Hitchcock near the director's childhood home.

Working with illustrator Anna Mill, Mateusz Odronby created a flock of birds on flat fronts in High Road, Leytonstone, which pays homage to Hitchcock’s 1963 classic The Birds.

A long-term fan of Hitchcock’s work, Mr Odrobny added a subtle, last-minute feature which was not included on the original drawing.

He said: "On the very last day I said to myself, 'there has to be a portrait of Hitchcock' and saw it as the perfect moment to paint his face inside the eye of the biggest bird.

"It is just big enough to see close-up but from a distance it can be passed off as a reflection of the light.

"I watched Hitchcock from when I was a little kid and one day when I was high up on the scaffold at four in the morning I reflected on what I was doing.

"It was an emotional moment and this has been a real honour for me.

Spanning flat fronts and shops, the mural sits just yards from where Hitchcock grew up above his father’s greengrocers.

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2:40pm Wed 28 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there?

There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute.

There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.
I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -15

4:56pm Wed 28 May 14

stickmanny says...

What a load of crap.

Your post I mean. The building looks great.
What a load of crap. Your post I mean. The building looks great. stickmanny
  • Score: 11

5:12pm Wed 28 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

stickmanny wrote:
What a load of crap.

Your post I mean. The building looks great.
As eloquent as ever, your wallpaper must be fantastic.
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: What a load of crap. Your post I mean. The building looks great.[/p][/quote]As eloquent as ever, your wallpaper must be fantastic. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -3

5:33pm Wed 28 May 14

easterly says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there?

There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute.

There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.
If you'd walked down Leytonstone High Street over the past few years (or even checked Google StreetView) you'd know that the buildings were already painted white and have been for several years, so your comments on painting bricks or planning officers "draconian powers" are completely irrelevant.

As to the art, that's personal taste I guess. I'm not a huge fan, but it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.[/p][/quote]If you'd walked down Leytonstone High Street over the past few years (or even checked Google StreetView) you'd know that the buildings were already painted white and have been for several years, so your comments on painting bricks or planning officers "draconian powers" are completely irrelevant. As to the art, that's personal taste I guess. I'm not a huge fan, but it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area. easterly
  • Score: 16

6:27pm Wed 28 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

easterly wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there?

There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute.

There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.
If you'd walked down Leytonstone High Street over the past few years (or even checked Google StreetView) you'd know that the buildings were already painted white and have been for several years, so your comments on painting bricks or planning officers "draconian powers" are completely irrelevant.

As to the art, that's personal taste I guess. I'm not a huge fan, but it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area.
I am not talking about them being painted white, those birds look ridiculous and cheapen the already shabby South Leytonstone end further. Who is going to maintain this 'artwork' after three years when it starts to flake again? Sounds like it is any old excuse to paint a mural on a building which now looks like a glorified squat. Would have been better left alone. I know the fashion by the council is to paint all these Victorian buildings whilst telling everyone else to sympathetically carry out building and decoration works to buildings.
[quote][p][bold]easterly[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.[/p][/quote]If you'd walked down Leytonstone High Street over the past few years (or even checked Google StreetView) you'd know that the buildings were already painted white and have been for several years, so your comments on painting bricks or planning officers "draconian powers" are completely irrelevant. As to the art, that's personal taste I guess. I'm not a huge fan, but it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area.[/p][/quote]I am not talking about them being painted white, those birds look ridiculous and cheapen the already shabby South Leytonstone end further. Who is going to maintain this 'artwork' after three years when it starts to flake again? Sounds like it is any old excuse to paint a mural on a building which now looks like a glorified squat. Would have been better left alone. I know the fashion by the council is to paint all these Victorian buildings whilst telling everyone else to sympathetically carry out building and decoration works to buildings. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -9

6:54am Thu 29 May 14

stickmanny says...

More crap. Take your boring opinions for a hike
More crap. Take your boring opinions for a hike stickmanny
  • Score: 4

7:04am Thu 29 May 14

tjm01 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.
There is a Blue Plaque on the wall in the petrol station you plank, and please explain the doubt as to his birthplace, are you seriously suggesting he was born in an attic room above the fairly recently named Alfred Hitchcock Hotel?
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.[/p][/quote]There is a Blue Plaque on the wall in the petrol station you plank, and please explain the doubt as to his birthplace, are you seriously suggesting he was born in an attic room above the fairly recently named Alfred Hitchcock Hotel? tjm01
  • Score: 9

8:25am Thu 29 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

stickmanny wrote:
More crap. Take your boring opinions for a hike
And you call this an enlightening contribution? Hahaha!
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: More crap. Take your boring opinions for a hike[/p][/quote]And you call this an enlightening contribution? Hahaha! Villagecranberry
  • Score: -3

8:36am Thu 29 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.
There is a Blue Plaque on the wall in the petrol station you plank, and please explain the doubt as to his birthplace, are you seriously suggesting he was born in an attic room above the fairly recently named Alfred Hitchcock Hotel?
So I am a 'plank' for asking why they are destroying a period property at will with ridiculous paintings of brickwork on a building where the great man was not born? I think whoever allowed this vandalism is the plank.

It is common knowledge locally that the man was rumoured to have been born in an at tick room in the hotel when it was a private residence and when the South Africans originally bought the hotel from the previous Irish owner this legend was passed on. The new owners wanted to erect his statue but the then Waltham Forest Cultural Secretary who was from New Zealand objected for odd reasons. Hitchcock it is said cried his first yelp as his rear was slapped on birth in that very place, his rear already showing signs that this great film maker would probably grow up obese as he was quite a rotund baby boy. The doctor who later attended later appeared in cameo roles in several films.

Hitchococks first film studios are believed to have been near to the pie and mash shop nearby to where this ghastly mural is. I think this is where it was, I think Helen once mentioned it before she retired.
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.[/p][/quote]There is a Blue Plaque on the wall in the petrol station you plank, and please explain the doubt as to his birthplace, are you seriously suggesting he was born in an attic room above the fairly recently named Alfred Hitchcock Hotel?[/p][/quote]So I am a 'plank' for asking why they are destroying a period property at will with ridiculous paintings of brickwork on a building where the great man was not born? I think whoever allowed this vandalism is the plank. It is common knowledge locally that the man was rumoured to have been born in an at tick room in the hotel when it was a private residence and when the South Africans originally bought the hotel from the previous Irish owner this legend was passed on. The new owners wanted to erect his statue but the then Waltham Forest Cultural Secretary who was from New Zealand objected for odd reasons. Hitchcock it is said cried his first yelp as his rear was slapped on birth in that very place, his rear already showing signs that this great film maker would probably grow up obese as he was quite a rotund baby boy. The doctor who later attended later appeared in cameo roles in several films. Hitchococks first film studios are believed to have been near to the pie and mash shop nearby to where this ghastly mural is. I think this is where it was, I think Helen once mentioned it before she retired. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -5

8:57am Thu 29 May 14

tjm01 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote: I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.
There is a Blue Plaque on the wall in the petrol station you plank, and please explain the doubt as to his birthplace, are you seriously suggesting he was born in an attic room above the fairly recently named Alfred Hitchcock Hotel?
So I am a 'plank' for asking why they are destroying a period property at will with ridiculous paintings of brickwork on a building where the great man was not born? I think whoever allowed this vandalism is the plank. It is common knowledge locally that the man was rumoured to have been born in an at tick room in the hotel when it was a private residence and when the South Africans originally bought the hotel from the previous Irish owner this legend was passed on. The new owners wanted to erect his statue but the then Waltham Forest Cultural Secretary who was from New Zealand objected for odd reasons. Hitchcock it is said cried his first yelp as his rear was slapped on birth in that very place, his rear already showing signs that this great film maker would probably grow up obese as he was quite a rotund baby boy. The doctor who later attended later appeared in cameo roles in several films. Hitchococks first film studios are believed to have been near to the pie and mash shop nearby to where this ghastly mural is. I think this is where it was, I think Helen once mentioned it before she retired.
I can't quite make you out, you either know a lot about nothing, or nothing about a lot as you base you knowledge about his birth place on rumour and legend both of which(it is common knowledge locally) often have little if any truth in them whatsoever
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.[/p][/quote]There is a Blue Plaque on the wall in the petrol station you plank, and please explain the doubt as to his birthplace, are you seriously suggesting he was born in an attic room above the fairly recently named Alfred Hitchcock Hotel?[/p][/quote]So I am a 'plank' for asking why they are destroying a period property at will with ridiculous paintings of brickwork on a building where the great man was not born? I think whoever allowed this vandalism is the plank. It is common knowledge locally that the man was rumoured to have been born in an at tick room in the hotel when it was a private residence and when the South Africans originally bought the hotel from the previous Irish owner this legend was passed on. The new owners wanted to erect his statue but the then Waltham Forest Cultural Secretary who was from New Zealand objected for odd reasons. Hitchcock it is said cried his first yelp as his rear was slapped on birth in that very place, his rear already showing signs that this great film maker would probably grow up obese as he was quite a rotund baby boy. The doctor who later attended later appeared in cameo roles in several films. Hitchococks first film studios are believed to have been near to the pie and mash shop nearby to where this ghastly mural is. I think this is where it was, I think Helen once mentioned it before she retired.[/p][/quote]I can't quite make you out, you either know a lot about nothing, or nothing about a lot as you base you knowledge about his birth place on rumour and legend both of which(it is common knowledge locally) often have little if any truth in them whatsoever tjm01
  • Score: 6

9:13am Thu 29 May 14

tjm01 says...

P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally
P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally tjm01
  • Score: 6

10:20am Thu 29 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

tjm01 wrote:
P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally
Why did the council refuse a statue? That petrol station is no fitting commemoration for one of the greatest Thriller film makers of all time. Any other Town around the country would have honoured such a great person in a more honourable way. They have statues of Eric and Ernie in Luton, Tommy Cooper in Caerphilly, Chuckle Brothers on Rotherham,
Charlie Chaplin in Leicester Squire, Bobby Moore at Green Street Forest Gate, Nelson Mandela all over the country and many other people some of whom are loosely connected to the UK. Hitchcock made such fantastic films like Vertigo and Physchology with the iconic shower scene and maybe just a shower could be put up near the Harrow Green to symbolise what a shower the Cultural Department of Waltham Forest Council is.
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally[/p][/quote]Why did the council refuse a statue? That petrol station is no fitting commemoration for one of the greatest Thriller film makers of all time. Any other Town around the country would have honoured such a great person in a more honourable way. They have statues of Eric and Ernie in Luton, Tommy Cooper in Caerphilly, Chuckle Brothers on Rotherham, Charlie Chaplin in Leicester Squire, Bobby Moore at Green Street Forest Gate, Nelson Mandela all over the country and many other people some of whom are loosely connected to the UK. Hitchcock made such fantastic films like Vertigo and Physchology with the iconic shower scene and maybe just a shower could be put up near the Harrow Green to symbolise what a shower the Cultural Department of Waltham Forest Council is. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -5

11:13am Thu 29 May 14

tjm01 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
tjm01 wrote: P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally
Why did the council refuse a statue? That petrol station is no fitting commemoration for one of the greatest Thriller film makers of all time. Any other Town around the country would have honoured such a great person in a more honourable way. They have statues of Eric and Ernie in Luton, Tommy Cooper in Caerphilly, Chuckle Brothers on Rotherham, Charlie Chaplin in Leicester Squire, Bobby Moore at Green Street Forest Gate, Nelson Mandela all over the country and many other people some of whom are loosely connected to the UK. Hitchcock made such fantastic films like Vertigo and Physchology with the iconic shower scene and maybe just a shower could be put up near the Harrow Green to symbolise what a shower the Cultural Department of Waltham Forest Council is.
The petrol station is not the commemoration you plank the Blue heritage plaque is to commerate his birthplace

Anyway back to the article, it is considered his film"The Birds" was possibley his most famous and therfore a mural depicting birds would be a fitting tribute, and where better to display such a mural than as close as possible to the birthplace of the very man himself,see simple logic, do try to keep up
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally[/p][/quote]Why did the council refuse a statue? That petrol station is no fitting commemoration for one of the greatest Thriller film makers of all time. Any other Town around the country would have honoured such a great person in a more honourable way. They have statues of Eric and Ernie in Luton, Tommy Cooper in Caerphilly, Chuckle Brothers on Rotherham, Charlie Chaplin in Leicester Squire, Bobby Moore at Green Street Forest Gate, Nelson Mandela all over the country and many other people some of whom are loosely connected to the UK. Hitchcock made such fantastic films like Vertigo and Physchology with the iconic shower scene and maybe just a shower could be put up near the Harrow Green to symbolise what a shower the Cultural Department of Waltham Forest Council is.[/p][/quote]The petrol station is not the commemoration you plank the Blue heritage plaque is to commerate his birthplace Anyway back to the article, it is considered his film"The Birds" was possibley his most famous and therfore a mural depicting birds would be a fitting tribute, and where better to display such a mural than as close as possible to the birthplace of the very man himself,see simple logic, do try to keep up tjm01
  • Score: 4

11:38am Thu 29 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
tjm01 wrote: P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally
Why did the council refuse a statue? That petrol station is no fitting commemoration for one of the greatest Thriller film makers of all time. Any other Town around the country would have honoured such a great person in a more honourable way. They have statues of Eric and Ernie in Luton, Tommy Cooper in Caerphilly, Chuckle Brothers on Rotherham, Charlie Chaplin in Leicester Squire, Bobby Moore at Green Street Forest Gate, Nelson Mandela all over the country and many other people some of whom are loosely connected to the UK. Hitchcock made such fantastic films like Vertigo and Physchology with the iconic shower scene and maybe just a shower could be put up near the Harrow Green to symbolise what a shower the Cultural Department of Waltham Forest Council is.
The petrol station is not the commemoration you plank the Blue heritage plaque is to commerate his birthplace

Anyway back to the article, it is considered his film"The Birds" was possibley his most famous and therfore a mural depicting birds would be a fitting tribute, and where better to display such a mural than as close as possible to the birthplace of the very man himself,see simple logic, do try to keep up
Hey, less of the 'plank' obey the rules. I have not been rude to you.

Who says that the Birds film was his best? It is all subjective. It is like saying Carry on Up The Khybers Path is the best Carry On Fillm when Others may have preferred the one when Hattie Jaques had the budgie whatever that one was and the budgie picked the horses for Sid James. You don't have budgies painted on Sid a James birth place in South Africa do you?

The period property is just that, a property that should be kept as original as possible. Who will repaint these Birds when the paint flakes in 2 or 3 years?

This council has no interest in arts or history and would rather celebrate some ethnic festival or waste money on Nuclear Free Zone signs than invest in a proper durable statue, although if the Leaf Man near McDonalds is anything to go by that was smashed to powder not long ago. As for that film the birds it was quite rubbish as the birds were plastic and you could see the strings.

I thought the best one was the Rear Room when James Stewart witnessed all kinds of goings on with Princess Monaco and he had a broken leg and was trapped for weeks or Dial M for the Murder which I still cannot understand the bit about the Yale Key under the stair mat, it was more confusing than that TV programme, 321 with the dustbin.
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: P.S you are a plank for a number of reasons, one of which is not knowing there is a Blue Plaque commerating the birth place of Sir Alfred Hitchcock on the wall in the petrol station, I mean come on its common knowledge locally[/p][/quote]Why did the council refuse a statue? That petrol station is no fitting commemoration for one of the greatest Thriller film makers of all time. Any other Town around the country would have honoured such a great person in a more honourable way. They have statues of Eric and Ernie in Luton, Tommy Cooper in Caerphilly, Chuckle Brothers on Rotherham, Charlie Chaplin in Leicester Squire, Bobby Moore at Green Street Forest Gate, Nelson Mandela all over the country and many other people some of whom are loosely connected to the UK. Hitchcock made such fantastic films like Vertigo and Physchology with the iconic shower scene and maybe just a shower could be put up near the Harrow Green to symbolise what a shower the Cultural Department of Waltham Forest Council is.[/p][/quote]The petrol station is not the commemoration you plank the Blue heritage plaque is to commerate his birthplace Anyway back to the article, it is considered his film"The Birds" was possibley his most famous and therfore a mural depicting birds would be a fitting tribute, and where better to display such a mural than as close as possible to the birthplace of the very man himself,see simple logic, do try to keep up[/p][/quote]Hey, less of the 'plank' obey the rules. I have not been rude to you. Who says that the Birds film was his best? It is all subjective. It is like saying Carry on Up The Khybers Path is the best Carry On Fillm when Others may have preferred the one when Hattie Jaques had the budgie whatever that one was and the budgie picked the horses for Sid James. You don't have budgies painted on Sid a James birth place in South Africa do you? The period property is just that, a property that should be kept as original as possible. Who will repaint these Birds when the paint flakes in 2 or 3 years? This council has no interest in arts or history and would rather celebrate some ethnic festival or waste money on Nuclear Free Zone signs than invest in a proper durable statue, although if the Leaf Man near McDonalds is anything to go by that was smashed to powder not long ago. As for that film the birds it was quite rubbish as the birds were plastic and you could see the strings. I thought the best one was the Rear Room when James Stewart witnessed all kinds of goings on with Princess Monaco and he had a broken leg and was trapped for weeks or Dial M for the Murder which I still cannot understand the bit about the Yale Key under the stair mat, it was more confusing than that TV programme, 321 with the dustbin. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -4

1:09pm Thu 29 May 14

tjm01 says...

I dread to think what they might "ERECT "at your birth place
I dread to think what they might "ERECT "at your birth place tjm01
  • Score: 2

1:33pm Thu 29 May 14

mdj says...

'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....'

It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd.

Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done.
'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....' It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd. Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done. mdj
  • Score: 3

2:46pm Thu 29 May 14

Paul Skinner says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there?

There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute.

There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.
You said it yourself. Your view is draconian.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: I think it looks a mess. That is a Victorian period property with antique bricks. Painting bricks is vandalism in my view. Why could there not just be a blue heritage plaque there? There are no paintings of Dickensian characters on Dickens birthplace for instance or Wiiliam Morris print paintings at the gallery. Trouble with Waltham Forest Labour, everything has to be cheap, tasteless and out of character. Had a private person painted their property this colour the planning officers would have used draconian powers to prosecute. There is doubt as to whether he was born there anyhow as the Hitchcock Pub was his birthplace apparently in an attic room.[/p][/quote]You said it yourself. Your view is draconian. Paul Skinner
  • Score: 5

5:37pm Thu 29 May 14

stickmanny says...

mdj wrote:
'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....'

It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd.

Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done.
It does seem bizarre for you to slate every step the Council takes
[quote][p][bold]mdj[/bold] wrote: 'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....' It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd. Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done.[/p][/quote]It does seem bizarre for you to slate every step the Council takes stickmanny
  • Score: -4

5:37pm Thu 29 May 14

stickmanny says...

mdj wrote:
'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....'

It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd.

Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done.
It does seem bizarre for you to slate every step the Council takes
[quote][p][bold]mdj[/bold] wrote: 'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....' It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd. Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done.[/p][/quote]It does seem bizarre for you to slate every step the Council takes stickmanny
  • Score: -3

6:50pm Thu 29 May 14

Stevo98 says...

Is the work on the TFC supermarket finished yet?
Is the work on the TFC supermarket finished yet? Stevo98
  • Score: 1

7:12pm Thu 29 May 14

Stevo98 says...

mdj wrote:
'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....'

It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd.

Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done.
In all honesty, I think this problem will be remedied by market forces. I know the properties you mean, they are very grubby and run down let houses, they are in a filthy state, take a look at the houses opposite The Bell- grubby curtains, peeling paintwork, stained mattresses dumped in the front garden. These are part of a small portfolio some sleazy landlord owns, a landlord who has no interest in maintaining his houses and just wants the cashflow. The houses were bought around twenty years ago, so these landlords have, over the last couple of years, seen their houses increase to almost half a million pounds each. They will sell up. Cash in and clear out. The properties will be bought by the E11 incomers from N1 and N16, the burgeoning middle class priced out of areas to the west.

This is happening in Hackney and interestingly is reversing white flight, the demographic is changing quite rapidly.
[quote][p][bold]mdj[/bold] wrote: 'it's better to have buildings being looked after and tidied up in some way than half-derelict like a lot of the area....' It does seem bizarre to spend money on the railway bridge and this house (who's the lucky owner?), while leaving buddleia growing out of rotting, and soon to be dangerous, parapets only a few doors along. An annual sweep along the street at roof level with a cherry-picker at £20 per property would transform the atmosphere of the High Rd. Without this basic housework, expensive projects like this paint job recall phrases about pigs and lipstick, and devalue the hard work done.[/p][/quote]In all honesty, I think this problem will be remedied by market forces. I know the properties you mean, they are very grubby and run down let houses, they are in a filthy state, take a look at the houses opposite The Bell- grubby curtains, peeling paintwork, stained mattresses dumped in the front garden. These are part of a small portfolio some sleazy landlord owns, a landlord who has no interest in maintaining his houses and just wants the cashflow. The houses were bought around twenty years ago, so these landlords have, over the last couple of years, seen their houses increase to almost half a million pounds each. They will sell up. Cash in and clear out. The properties will be bought by the E11 incomers from N1 and N16, the burgeoning middle class priced out of areas to the west. This is happening in Hackney and interestingly is reversing white flight, the demographic is changing quite rapidly. Stevo98
  • Score: 8

7:24pm Thu 29 May 14

Stevo98 says...

Ah, I see it's nearly complete, search Mateusz J Odrobny on Twitter.
Ah, I see it's nearly complete, search Mateusz J Odrobny on Twitter. Stevo98
  • Score: 3

9:20pm Thu 29 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

They diverted the Olympics out of the way of South Leytonstone as there was nothing they could do to mildly spruce it upj.
They diverted the Olympics out of the way of South Leytonstone as there was nothing they could do to mildly spruce it upj. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 2

10:02am Fri 30 May 14

Villagecranberry says...

Stevo98 wrote:
Is the work on the TFC supermarket finished yet?
What has this got to do with the price of rice?
[quote][p][bold]Stevo98[/bold] wrote: Is the work on the TFC supermarket finished yet?[/p][/quote]What has this got to do with the price of rice? Villagecranberry
  • Score: -6

10:51am Fri 30 May 14

easterly says...

http://leytonart.web
s.com/ - looks like there's going to be lot more of this kind of thing around. Villagecranberry won't be happy!

For someone making a fuss about Hitchcock, Villagecranberry seems quite confused about his films.

re: The Leaf Memory statue (green man) is still there I believe, in the pedestrian section of Grove Road.

re: council blue plaques - these are very ugly (the bright blue and yellow ones), and they misspelt Fanny Cradock's name on hers.

re: market forces - unfortunately if the area becomes more desirable, rents also go up, so the landlords may hang for a bit longer. I totally agree about the buddleia etc though, should be more of a priority for the council as part of the high street improvements.
http://leytonart.web s.com/ - looks like there's going to be lot more of this kind of thing around. Villagecranberry won't be happy! For someone making a fuss about Hitchcock, Villagecranberry seems quite confused about his films. re: The Leaf Memory statue (green man) is still there I believe, in the pedestrian section of Grove Road. re: council blue plaques - these are very ugly (the bright blue and yellow ones), and they misspelt Fanny Cradock's name on hers. re: market forces - unfortunately if the area becomes more desirable, rents also go up, so the landlords may hang for a bit longer. I totally agree about the buddleia etc though, should be more of a priority for the council as part of the high street improvements. easterly
  • Score: 2

11:46am Fri 30 May 14

Artefacto says...

I own a business nearby next to the police station and i would like to comment as i live with this building daily. i may not be completely convinced, as an artist myself, but at least it looks better than it did. I wish all the buildings in leytonstone would simply be restored to their former glory no more no less. I am endeavouring to do this with thebuilding we lease as in the past 70 years people have painted FIVE layers of paint ontop of the victorian enamel and mirror tiles!!! The council has not helped me one bit either. I have researched what the places looked like back then and handpainted a sign in the style of the period of the building. We intend to restore the tiles and repaint the other bits. Unfrtunately our landlord put in PVC windows, as we would love to be able to put in an original style shopfront but its too much money when you dont own the buidling! We would love to do a mural on the side of the building as it is a bit dreary...but we were thinking more about something that brings in the nearby epping forest area wildlife as well as maybe a nod to Hitchcock...bit in a bit more organic way so it enhances rather than glares at you...and all with approval from neighbours. But have yet to find a grant from the council.... I am not sure how they choos the buildngs and landlords etc they help? If any one has clues?
We now will have to deal with the muslim all girls school happening in the police station next to us as they won their appeal. I think people should be more concerned with this...with a building that should be listed and maybe a community arts centre and museum, being allowed to be bought out by private company and turned into ane xclusive school.
I think peoples priorities on disdain are twisted. Worry about how buildings are used rather than how they are decorated maybe?
I own a business nearby next to the police station and i would like to comment as i live with this building daily. i may not be completely convinced, as an artist myself, but at least it looks better than it did. I wish all the buildings in leytonstone would simply be restored to their former glory no more no less. I am endeavouring to do this with thebuilding we lease as in the past 70 years people have painted FIVE layers of paint ontop of the victorian enamel and mirror tiles!!! The council has not helped me one bit either. I have researched what the places looked like back then and handpainted a sign in the style of the period of the building. We intend to restore the tiles and repaint the other bits. Unfrtunately our landlord put in PVC windows, as we would love to be able to put in an original style shopfront but its too much money when you dont own the buidling! We would love to do a mural on the side of the building as it is a bit dreary...but we were thinking more about something that brings in the nearby epping forest area wildlife as well as maybe a nod to Hitchcock...bit in a bit more organic way so it enhances rather than glares at you...and all with approval from neighbours. But have yet to find a grant from the council.... I am not sure how they choos the buildngs and landlords etc they help? If any one has clues? We now will have to deal with the muslim all girls school happening in the police station next to us as they won their appeal. I think people should be more concerned with this...with a building that should be listed and maybe a community arts centre and museum, being allowed to be bought out by private company and turned into ane xclusive school. I think peoples priorities on disdain are twisted. Worry about how buildings are used rather than how they are decorated maybe? Artefacto
  • Score: 6

2:30pm Fri 30 May 14

mdj says...

'It does seem bizarre for you to slate every step the Council takes'..

I said nothing against these improvements.
But that buddleia was poking out of gutters when I first travelled down the High Rd in the 70s, giving the vista a terrible air of dereliction.

After 30 and more years of stagnation under Labour, during which the two biggest booms in history left this borough essentially unimproved, outside global forces are finally bringing changes. I hope it turns out be regeneration, that improves life for local people, rather than gentrification, that winkles them out.
But the buddleia is still there, when for a couple of thousand pounds a year every property along that main approach to our borough could be made presentable (and safer), encouraging owners to put more of their own money into maintaining the area.

Not to do this while millions of public funds are being spent on upgrading privately-owned frontages is a strange oversight.
'It does seem bizarre for you to slate every step the Council takes'.. I said nothing against these improvements. But that buddleia was poking out of gutters when I first travelled down the High Rd in the 70s, giving the vista a terrible air of dereliction. After 30 and more years of stagnation under Labour, during which the two biggest booms in history left this borough essentially unimproved, outside global forces are finally bringing changes. I hope it turns out be regeneration, that improves life for local people, rather than gentrification, that winkles them out. But the buddleia is still there, when for a couple of thousand pounds a year every property along that main approach to our borough could be made presentable (and safer), encouraging owners to put more of their own money into maintaining the area. Not to do this while millions of public funds are being spent on upgrading privately-owned frontages is a strange oversight. mdj
  • Score: 7

3:06pm Fri 30 May 14

Stevo98 says...

For the last few years the council offered to pay half the cost of shopfront improvements, the owners said no. I'd bite the hand off if that was offered to me. Artefacto, you know the properties mdj refers to, if I smoke a fag outside the bell the houses opposite have net curtains stiff with grime, it's disgusting. And of course run-down properties attract anti-social behaviour, it's the Broken Window syndrome that Giuliani tackled in New York.

If this was Switzerland the owner of the property would face fines for dragging the area down, same should happen here, the stretch from Maryland northbound is horrible. It makes no sense, the longer you let a property decay the more costly it is to repair, it's like keeping a Rembrandt in a damp cellar. That posh new bakers, the Wild Goose or something at 654 is a sign of things to come but that's further up the high road near the Red Lion. the bit south of the railway bridge is a toilet.
For the last few years the council offered to pay half the cost of shopfront improvements, the owners said no. I'd bite the hand off if that was offered to me. Artefacto, you know the properties mdj refers to, if I smoke a fag outside the bell the houses opposite have net curtains stiff with grime, it's disgusting. And of course run-down properties attract anti-social behaviour, it's the Broken Window syndrome that Giuliani tackled in New York. If this was Switzerland the owner of the property would face fines for dragging the area down, same should happen here, the stretch from Maryland northbound is horrible. It makes no sense, the longer you let a property decay the more costly it is to repair, it's like keeping a Rembrandt in a damp cellar. That posh new bakers, the Wild Goose or something at 654 is a sign of things to come but that's further up the high road near the Red Lion. the bit south of the railway bridge is a toilet. Stevo98
  • Score: 9

11:52am Tue 3 Jun 14

T. Watts says...

COME ON all my sad and ranting right wing friends! Where are you? Mateusz Odrobny sounds strangely Eastern European to me - shouldn't you be accusing him of stealing the work of an English painter or perhaps fiddling benefits?

Come on DM lovers, up your game!
COME ON all my sad and ranting right wing friends! Where are you? Mateusz Odrobny sounds strangely Eastern European to me - shouldn't you be accusing him of stealing the work of an English painter or perhaps fiddling benefits? Come on DM lovers, up your game! T. Watts
  • Score: 3

1:43pm Tue 3 Jun 14

Stevo98 says...

T. Watts wrote:
COME ON all my sad and ranting right wing friends! Where are you? Mateusz Odrobny sounds strangely Eastern European to me - shouldn't you be accusing him of stealing the work of an English painter or perhaps fiddling benefits?

Come on DM lovers, up your game!
Mateusz is Canadian (born in Poland)

Regarding TFC, that shop has a Twitter feed as well, it's pretty funny. They're very proud of their gleaming new shop and "slideing doors". .
[quote][p][bold]T. Watts[/bold] wrote: COME ON all my sad and ranting right wing friends! Where are you? Mateusz Odrobny sounds strangely Eastern European to me - shouldn't you be accusing him of stealing the work of an English painter or perhaps fiddling benefits? Come on DM lovers, up your game![/p][/quote]Mateusz is Canadian (born in Poland) Regarding TFC, that shop has a Twitter feed as well, it's pretty funny. They're very proud of their gleaming new shop and "slideing doors". . Stevo98
  • Score: 1

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