Green Party members from Waltham Forest were among 50,000 who marched against austerity at the weekend

Mark Dawes and David Hamilton at the demonstration

Mark Dawes and David Hamilton at the demonstration

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Green Party supporters gathered in their thousands at the weekend to march against austerity.

Residents of Waltham Forest and Redbridge were among around 50,000 people to take part in the event, organised by People’s Assembly.

Beginning outside the BBC building in Portland Place the walk trailed through London, ending in Parliament Square.

Members were then addressed by speakers including Green MP Caroline Lucas, Owen Jones, Mark Steel and comedian Russell Brand.

The BBC was chosen as a starting point as the party believes that economic policies are reported with bias towards the government.

Mark Dawes of Waltham Forest & Redbridge Green Party said the march showed the level of anger over what he called "destructive austerity policies".

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1:22pm Tue 24 Jun 14

hursthill says...

Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march.
Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march. hursthill
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1:41pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Villagecranberry says...

hursthill wrote:
Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march.
Excellent point, took the words out of my mouth.
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march.[/p][/quote]Excellent point, took the words out of my mouth. Villagecranberry
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2:17pm Tue 24 Jun 14

T. Watts says...

@hursthill

I LOVE the way the DM lovers drag this lie up time and again - yet never produce any evidence.

Maybe she's a Romanian too?
@hursthill I LOVE the way the DM lovers drag this lie up time and again - yet never produce any evidence. Maybe she's a Romanian too? T. Watts
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2:45pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Villagecranberry says...

T. Watts wrote:
@hursthill

I LOVE the way the DM lovers drag this lie up time and again - yet never produce any evidence.

Maybe she's a Romanian too?
You seem to know an awful lot of what is in the Daily Mail.

Has she ever denied that she has a large carbon footprint?

I presume you are in denial about the Blair's and their 50 million property portfolio also?

Bliar's just bought Euan a 3.6 million mansion to move him a little further up the property Ladder having bought their eldest three 'starter homes' at well over a million quids each.
[quote][p][bold]T. Watts[/bold] wrote: @hursthill I LOVE the way the DM lovers drag this lie up time and again - yet never produce any evidence. Maybe she's a Romanian too?[/p][/quote]You seem to know an awful lot of what is in the Daily Mail. Has she ever denied that she has a large carbon footprint? I presume you are in denial about the Blair's and their 50 million property portfolio also? Bliar's just bought Euan a 3.6 million mansion to move him a little further up the property Ladder having bought their eldest three 'starter homes' at well over a million quids each. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 9

3:04pm Tue 24 Jun 14

T. Watts says...

@Villagecranberry

Cornbeefur - change the record about Blair. It's the most pedestrian line of attack anyone could muster and doesn't really work when you think about it. Anyway, we were talking about the Greens, so I don't know how Labour came into it. Still, as a troll, you have to keep beating the drum, don't you?

Go back to the stuff you know best - the green toothed lefties on the Orford Road and the darleks...
@Villagecranberry Cornbeefur - change the record about Blair. It's the most pedestrian line of attack anyone could muster and doesn't really work when you think about it. Anyway, we were talking about the Greens, so I don't know how Labour came into it. Still, as a troll, you have to keep beating the drum, don't you? Go back to the stuff you know best - the green toothed lefties on the Orford Road and the darleks... T. Watts
  • Score: -4

3:52pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Villagecranberry says...

T. Watts wrote:
@Villagecranberry

Cornbeefur - change the record about Blair. It's the most pedestrian line of attack anyone could muster and doesn't really work when you think about it. Anyway, we were talking about the Greens, so I don't know how Labour came into it. Still, as a troll, you have to keep beating the drum, don't you?

Go back to the stuff you know best - the green toothed lefties on the Orford Road and the darleks...
Firstly, who is Cornbeefers?

Secondly, the pedestrian line of attack as you say, does indeed work, it is people like you, typical labour disastrous policy deniers that choose to economically air brush his embarrassing reign from your memory. Embarrassed about the thousands that were killed in his wars, embarrassed about the failed mass immigration policies he presided over, failed education policies that have seen thousands of kids leaved rubbish old polytechniques with equally rubbish and worthless degrees, embarrassed by him leaving the useless Brown at the helm, who bankrupted the country causing the banking crisis, the urgent austerity measures and the millions in waste, sold all our gold reserves at rock bottom prices and ruined our economy.

It is understandable that you would want to forget this disaster whilst Blair is our roving 'peace envoy', hahaha!

As for Darleks, this seems to be your default position these days as you have nothing constructive to say.
[quote][p][bold]T. Watts[/bold] wrote: @Villagecranberry Cornbeefur - change the record about Blair. It's the most pedestrian line of attack anyone could muster and doesn't really work when you think about it. Anyway, we were talking about the Greens, so I don't know how Labour came into it. Still, as a troll, you have to keep beating the drum, don't you? Go back to the stuff you know best - the green toothed lefties on the Orford Road and the darleks...[/p][/quote]Firstly, who is Cornbeefers? Secondly, the pedestrian line of attack as you say, does indeed work, it is people like you, typical labour disastrous policy deniers that choose to economically air brush his embarrassing reign from your memory. Embarrassed about the thousands that were killed in his wars, embarrassed about the failed mass immigration policies he presided over, failed education policies that have seen thousands of kids leaved rubbish old polytechniques with equally rubbish and worthless degrees, embarrassed by him leaving the useless Brown at the helm, who bankrupted the country causing the banking crisis, the urgent austerity measures and the millions in waste, sold all our gold reserves at rock bottom prices and ruined our economy. It is understandable that you would want to forget this disaster whilst Blair is our roving 'peace envoy', hahaha! As for Darleks, this seems to be your default position these days as you have nothing constructive to say. Villagecranberry
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5:44pm Tue 24 Jun 14

stickmanny says...

hursthill wrote:
Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march.
No they didn't, because it isn't relevant, but congratulations to you for squeezing straw man and ad hominem arguments into a single sentence.

More important is the fact that 50,000 people started a march outside BBC HQ yet they failed to report it.

One day we may look back and wonder why the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy.
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march.[/p][/quote]No they didn't, because it isn't relevant, but congratulations to you for squeezing straw man and ad hominem arguments into a single sentence. More important is the fact that 50,000 people started a march outside BBC HQ yet they failed to report it. One day we may look back and wonder why the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy. stickmanny
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6:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Villagecranberry says...

stickmanny wrote:
hursthill wrote:
Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march.
No they didn't, because it isn't relevant, but congratulations to you for squeezing straw man and ad hominem arguments into a single sentence.

More important is the fact that 50,000 people started a march outside BBC HQ yet they failed to report it.

One day we may look back and wonder why the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy.
When you say 'wealthy', at what point does a self-made person become so.

Let's say a person, without any financial backing, leaves school, takes one or more jobs and saves up as much as he can, purchases a house with a mortgage but puts down as a deposit a large some that he has slaved hard to save. This house increases in value by say four times in ten years. Do you class such a man wealthy and do you expect him to sell this house and give the money to those who have never worked? I am interested to hear your opinion of 'wealthy'.
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: Did the Green Party members marching against austerity ask Caroline Lucas about allegations that she has 5 homes, and if they are vacant properties. It is relevant to her speaking at the march.[/p][/quote]No they didn't, because it isn't relevant, but congratulations to you for squeezing straw man and ad hominem arguments into a single sentence. More important is the fact that 50,000 people started a march outside BBC HQ yet they failed to report it. One day we may look back and wonder why the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy.[/p][/quote]When you say 'wealthy', at what point does a self-made person become so. Let's say a person, without any financial backing, leaves school, takes one or more jobs and saves up as much as he can, purchases a house with a mortgage but puts down as a deposit a large some that he has slaved hard to save. This house increases in value by say four times in ten years. Do you class such a man wealthy and do you expect him to sell this house and give the money to those who have never worked? I am interested to hear your opinion of 'wealthy'. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 9

1:42pm Sat 28 Jun 14

mdj says...

'..the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy.'

One aspect of this is loading the energy bills of the poor with higher tariffs to pay the FIT subsidies on the solar panels on the roofs of the better off, wouldn't you say?

This government is doing many deplorable things, but the Greens need to wash their own hands before criticising.

Agree with you entirely on the quality of BBC coverage: we live in strange times when RT, a channel that dare not offend Mr Putin, can offer us a more candid view on many issues than our own state broadcaster.

I wonder how the Greens respond to the allegations that they are carrying out, possibly with funding, the agenda of Russia, whose coal supplies us with 25% of our electrical generating capacity, and stands to lose heavily if fracking takes over?
It's curious to see the left-wing groundswell behind the modern Greens, when the earlier impetus to Green thinking, setting the worth of humanity against the balance of the planet, came from people ranging from the radically conservative, such as the Goldsmiths, to even more extreme totalitarian vegetarians?
'..the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy.' One aspect of this is loading the energy bills of the poor with higher tariffs to pay the FIT subsidies on the solar panels on the roofs of the better off, wouldn't you say? This government is doing many deplorable things, but the Greens need to wash their own hands before criticising. Agree with you entirely on the quality of BBC coverage: we live in strange times when RT, a channel that dare not offend Mr Putin, can offer us a more candid view on many issues than our own state broadcaster. I wonder how the Greens respond to the allegations that they are carrying out, possibly with funding, the agenda of Russia, whose coal supplies us with 25% of our electrical generating capacity, and stands to lose heavily if fracking takes over? It's curious to see the left-wing groundswell behind the modern Greens, when the earlier impetus to Green thinking, setting the worth of humanity against the balance of the planet, came from people ranging from the radically conservative, such as the Goldsmiths, to even more extreme totalitarian vegetarians? mdj
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11:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

snacker says...

mdj wrote:
'..the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy.'

One aspect of this is loading the energy bills of the poor with higher tariffs to pay the FIT subsidies on the solar panels on the roofs of the better off, wouldn't you say?

This government is doing many deplorable things, but the Greens need to wash their own hands before criticising.

Agree with you entirely on the quality of BBC coverage: we live in strange times when RT, a channel that dare not offend Mr Putin, can offer us a more candid view on many issues than our own state broadcaster.

I wonder how the Greens respond to the allegations that they are carrying out, possibly with funding, the agenda of Russia, whose coal supplies us with 25% of our electrical generating capacity, and stands to lose heavily if fracking takes over?
It's curious to see the left-wing groundswell behind the modern Greens, when the earlier impetus to Green thinking, setting the worth of humanity against the balance of the planet, came from people ranging from the radically conservative, such as the Goldsmiths, to even more extreme totalitarian vegetarians?
The Russians behind anti-fracking protests by genuinely concerned UK citizens , laughable.. A DM readers wet dream.

"Extreme totalitarian vegetarians" ? ! For real ???
[quote][p][bold]mdj[/bold] wrote: '..the whole population were made to pay for the greed of the wealthy.' One aspect of this is loading the energy bills of the poor with higher tariffs to pay the FIT subsidies on the solar panels on the roofs of the better off, wouldn't you say? This government is doing many deplorable things, but the Greens need to wash their own hands before criticising. Agree with you entirely on the quality of BBC coverage: we live in strange times when RT, a channel that dare not offend Mr Putin, can offer us a more candid view on many issues than our own state broadcaster. I wonder how the Greens respond to the allegations that they are carrying out, possibly with funding, the agenda of Russia, whose coal supplies us with 25% of our electrical generating capacity, and stands to lose heavily if fracking takes over? It's curious to see the left-wing groundswell behind the modern Greens, when the earlier impetus to Green thinking, setting the worth of humanity against the balance of the planet, came from people ranging from the radically conservative, such as the Goldsmiths, to even more extreme totalitarian vegetarians?[/p][/quote]The Russians behind anti-fracking protests by genuinely concerned UK citizens , laughable.. A DM readers wet dream. "Extreme totalitarian vegetarians" ? ! For real ??? snacker
  • Score: 1

12:16pm Mon 30 Jun 14

mdj says...

The chap's name was Hitler; you may have heard of him. He loved nature and animals.
There is one strand of environmental thinking that regards people - always other people, funnily enough - as a plague on the planet, just as some people who express a love for animals really hate people.

The last century has seen so many movements that were manipulated - or even founded - for purposes other than the one they professed that it is always worthwhile to ask who benefits from a worthy objective for unworthy motives.
We know now that the Morning Star was funded, despite its endless outraged denials, by the Soviet Union; equally, we know that the CIA was funding many opinion-forming journals that claimed to be objective and dispassionate.

Cicero taught us always to ask, Cui Bono? - Who Benefits?

In a complex and duplicitous world we also need to ask, Cui Aliter Bono? (if my Latin's right) - Who Else Benefits?

This isn't to dispute or denigrate the honourable actions of honest people, merely to bear in mind that two things can be true simultaneously.
The chap's name was Hitler; you may have heard of him. He loved nature and animals. There is one strand of environmental thinking that regards people - always other people, funnily enough - as a plague on the planet, just as some people who express a love for animals really hate people. The last century has seen so many movements that were manipulated - or even founded - for purposes other than the one they professed that it is always worthwhile to ask who benefits from a worthy objective for unworthy motives. We know now that the Morning Star was funded, despite its endless outraged denials, by the Soviet Union; equally, we know that the CIA was funding many opinion-forming journals that claimed to be objective and dispassionate. Cicero taught us always to ask, Cui Bono? - Who Benefits? In a complex and duplicitous world we also need to ask, Cui Aliter Bono? (if my Latin's right) - Who Else Benefits? This isn't to dispute or denigrate the honourable actions of honest people, merely to bear in mind that two things can be true simultaneously. mdj
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7:55am Tue 1 Jul 14

snacker says...

mdj wrote:
The chap's name was Hitler; you may have heard of him. He loved nature and animals.
There is one strand of environmental thinking that regards people - always other people, funnily enough - as a plague on the planet, just as some people who express a love for animals really hate people.

The last century has seen so many movements that were manipulated - or even founded - for purposes other than the one they professed that it is always worthwhile to ask who benefits from a worthy objective for unworthy motives.
We know now that the Morning Star was funded, despite its endless outraged denials, by the Soviet Union; equally, we know that the CIA was funding many opinion-forming journals that claimed to be objective and dispassionate.

Cicero taught us always to ask, Cui Bono? - Who Benefits?

In a complex and duplicitous world we also need to ask, Cui Aliter Bono? (if my Latin's right) - Who Else Benefits?

This isn't to dispute or denigrate the honourable actions of honest people, merely to bear in mind that two things can be true simultaneously.
Godwins Law vindicated.
[quote][p][bold]mdj[/bold] wrote: The chap's name was Hitler; you may have heard of him. He loved nature and animals. There is one strand of environmental thinking that regards people - always other people, funnily enough - as a plague on the planet, just as some people who express a love for animals really hate people. The last century has seen so many movements that were manipulated - or even founded - for purposes other than the one they professed that it is always worthwhile to ask who benefits from a worthy objective for unworthy motives. We know now that the Morning Star was funded, despite its endless outraged denials, by the Soviet Union; equally, we know that the CIA was funding many opinion-forming journals that claimed to be objective and dispassionate. Cicero taught us always to ask, Cui Bono? - Who Benefits? In a complex and duplicitous world we also need to ask, Cui Aliter Bono? (if my Latin's right) - Who Else Benefits? This isn't to dispute or denigrate the honourable actions of honest people, merely to bear in mind that two things can be true simultaneously.[/p][/quote]Godwins Law vindicated. snacker
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