CCTV to be installed at Queen Mary's Gate in South Woodford estate after reports of crime and anti-social behaviour

(from left) Woodford Green MP Iain Duncan-Smith, Cllr Emma Best, Cllr Tom McLaren and resident Irma Savukas

(from left) Woodford Green MP Iain Duncan-Smith, Cllr Emma Best, Cllr Tom McLaren and resident Irma Savukas

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CCTV will be installed on an estate after reports of young people "causing havoc".

The two cameras will be introduced by the company which manages Queen Mary's Gate in High Road, South Woodford, on the July 19 after residents complained of vandalism and drug dealing.

Resident Irma Savukas has lived in the estate for five years with her 13-year-old daughter and set up a petition calling for something to be done about the problem.

Speaking on behalf of residents, she said: “The stuff that has been going on here is atrocious, there are people dealing drugs and vandalising the estate.

“A minority of young people who live in the estate are letting others in and causing havoc.

"Sometimes there are groups of 15 people standing by the entrance to the block.

“Sometimes I have to walk my daughter through the garage in order to avoid them, I have asked them to leave but they just respond with threats.

“CCTV will help and will mean that we can document some evidence of what is going on here, everyone here wants change so this is a step in the right direction.”

Today, the 42-year-old met with Woodford Green MP Iain Duncan-Smith and Conservative councillors Emma Best and Tom McLaren, who have been campaigning for action.

Mr Duncan-Smith said: “There have been ongoing issues at the estate and this will hopefully deter what is going on here.

“The estate was meant to be a nice place to live but there has just been issue after issue.

“Redbridge police has confirmed it will be conducting regular patrols in the area, so this and the cameras are long overdue.”

There have also been maintenance and structural issues found at the estate, including a collapsed ceiling and mould, with residents attending a meeting in May with housing association Circle 33.

Telford Homes, who built the estate five years ago, criticised Circle 33 for their poor maintenance of the estate.

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9:53am Sat 5 Jul 14

Villagecranberry says...

Glorified council estate now at private development prices where flats must sell for 350k plus. Then again, pitched near a major road, it is the type of property you see built along motorways as so ail housing across Europe.
Glorified council estate now at private development prices where flats must sell for 350k plus. Then again, pitched near a major road, it is the type of property you see built along motorways as so ail housing across Europe. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Villagecranberry says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
Glorified council estate now at private development prices where flats must sell for 350k plus. Then again, pitched near a major road, it is the type of property you see built along motorways as so ail housing across Europe.
And, (Guardians Passim) complaints that the purchasers have bought a pup due to bad management and incompletion of contractual works.

This pace seems to be a disaster!
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: Glorified council estate now at private development prices where flats must sell for 350k plus. Then again, pitched near a major road, it is the type of property you see built along motorways as so ail housing across Europe.[/p][/quote]And, (Guardians Passim) complaints that the purchasers have bought a pup due to bad management and incompletion of contractual works. This pace seems to be a disaster! Villagecranberry
  • Score: 0

9:11pm Sat 5 Jul 14

bells70 says...

As a resident on the estate I can say there are youths on the estate but they do live here and have nowhere to go, I personally have never had a problem with them and they have never given any abuse. Circle built these properties and moved families with children, they also moved elderly people in so the mix on the estate does not work. There are people here that will go out of their way to complain about the youths and seeing them all as trouble when in fact they are not. A lot of things have broken on the estate but that has been down to poor maintenance from the housing association. Queen Mary Gate is not a problem estate people are causing problems and are trying their hardest to give the youths a bad name.
As a resident on the estate I can say there are youths on the estate but they do live here and have nowhere to go, I personally have never had a problem with them and they have never given any abuse. Circle built these properties and moved families with children, they also moved elderly people in so the mix on the estate does not work. There are people here that will go out of their way to complain about the youths and seeing them all as trouble when in fact they are not. A lot of things have broken on the estate but that has been down to poor maintenance from the housing association. Queen Mary Gate is not a problem estate people are causing problems and are trying their hardest to give the youths a bad name. bells70
  • Score: 0

10:06am Sun 6 Jul 14

Villagecranberry says...

bells70 wrote:
As a resident on the estate I can say there are youths on the estate but they do live here and have nowhere to go, I personally have never had a problem with them and they have never given any abuse. Circle built these properties and moved families with children, they also moved elderly people in so the mix on the estate does not work. There are people here that will go out of their way to complain about the youths and seeing them all as trouble when in fact they are not. A lot of things have broken on the estate but that has been down to poor maintenance from the housing association. Queen Mary Gate is not a problem estate people are causing problems and are trying their hardest to give the youths a bad name.
What do you mean 'they have nowhere to go?'

There are enough youth activities locally and public gyms. There are 400 acres of Epping Forest on their doorstep, sporting facilities at the oOlympic Park, the swimming pool and cycling facilities. There are Army and Police Cadet groups, scout groups, church groups and so on. They could go jogging with a running club Stop making lame excuses for lazy kids giving them reasons to cause havoc.
[quote][p][bold]bells70[/bold] wrote: As a resident on the estate I can say there are youths on the estate but they do live here and have nowhere to go, I personally have never had a problem with them and they have never given any abuse. Circle built these properties and moved families with children, they also moved elderly people in so the mix on the estate does not work. There are people here that will go out of their way to complain about the youths and seeing them all as trouble when in fact they are not. A lot of things have broken on the estate but that has been down to poor maintenance from the housing association. Queen Mary Gate is not a problem estate people are causing problems and are trying their hardest to give the youths a bad name.[/p][/quote]What do you mean 'they have nowhere to go?' There are enough youth activities locally and public gyms. There are 400 acres of Epping Forest on their doorstep, sporting facilities at the oOlympic Park, the swimming pool and cycling facilities. There are Army and Police Cadet groups, scout groups, church groups and so on. They could go jogging with a running club Stop making lame excuses for lazy kids giving them reasons to cause havoc. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 14

11:49am Mon 7 Jul 14

imakat says...

The author of the article needs to more clearly distinguish between the private Queen Mary Gate estate behind the gate and the Circle 33 housing trust owned 'affordable/key worker/council' part.

The title and the photo refer to the private part where there are limited issues yet relates them to the problems that occur in the public part outside the development.
The author of the article needs to more clearly distinguish between the private Queen Mary Gate estate behind the gate and the Circle 33 housing trust owned 'affordable/key worker/council' part. The title and the photo refer to the private part where there are limited issues yet relates them to the problems that occur in the public part outside the development. imakat
  • Score: 1

2:19pm Mon 7 Jul 14

G_Whiz says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
bells70 wrote:
As a resident on the estate I can say there are youths on the estate but they do live here and have nowhere to go, I personally have never had a problem with them and they have never given any abuse. Circle built these properties and moved families with children, they also moved elderly people in so the mix on the estate does not work. There are people here that will go out of their way to complain about the youths and seeing them all as trouble when in fact they are not. A lot of things have broken on the estate but that has been down to poor maintenance from the housing association. Queen Mary Gate is not a problem estate people are causing problems and are trying their hardest to give the youths a bad name.
What do you mean 'they have nowhere to go?'

There are enough youth activities locally and public gyms. There are 400 acres of Epping Forest on their doorstep, sporting facilities at the oOlympic Park, the swimming pool and cycling facilities. There are Army and Police Cadet groups, scout groups, church groups and so on. They could go jogging with a running club Stop making lame excuses for lazy kids giving them reasons to cause havoc.
Every time they try to open a youth club or put on a music event - they attract trouble - tried to talk to the kids and just got 'Oh my day's, just **** off and don't merk us bro!

Politeness just isn't cool enough anymore and nor does making an effort!

Why does society not tell them that slang will not get them a job?
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bells70[/bold] wrote: As a resident on the estate I can say there are youths on the estate but they do live here and have nowhere to go, I personally have never had a problem with them and they have never given any abuse. Circle built these properties and moved families with children, they also moved elderly people in so the mix on the estate does not work. There are people here that will go out of their way to complain about the youths and seeing them all as trouble when in fact they are not. A lot of things have broken on the estate but that has been down to poor maintenance from the housing association. Queen Mary Gate is not a problem estate people are causing problems and are trying their hardest to give the youths a bad name.[/p][/quote]What do you mean 'they have nowhere to go?' There are enough youth activities locally and public gyms. There are 400 acres of Epping Forest on their doorstep, sporting facilities at the oOlympic Park, the swimming pool and cycling facilities. There are Army and Police Cadet groups, scout groups, church groups and so on. They could go jogging with a running club Stop making lame excuses for lazy kids giving them reasons to cause havoc.[/p][/quote]Every time they try to open a youth club or put on a music event - they attract trouble - tried to talk to the kids and just got 'Oh my day's, just **** off and don't merk us bro! Politeness just isn't cool enough anymore and nor does making an effort! Why does society not tell them that slang will not get them a job? G_Whiz
  • Score: 6

6:27am Tue 8 Jul 14

tjm01 says...

Totally agree with G_Whizz some (not all) of todays youth are not unemployed, they are unemployable, they speak a silly and stupid street slang which will never in a million years afford them the chance to find employment, add to this bad parenting and a total lack of manners and respect and you have all the ingredients for disaster, and yet there are still people who defend these poor little s*ds, it really is time to hold to account the mothers and fathers of these youths for there unacceptable behaviour, and please lets not hear about their poor upbringing,and living in a single parent enviroment, in most cases these are chosen lifestyles
Totally agree with G_Whizz some (not all) of todays youth are not unemployed, they are unemployable, they speak a silly and stupid street slang which will never in a million years afford them the chance to find employment, add to this bad parenting and a total lack of manners and respect and you have all the ingredients for disaster, and yet there are still people who defend these poor little s*ds, it really is time to hold to account the mothers and fathers of these youths for there unacceptable behaviour, and please lets not hear about their poor upbringing,and living in a single parent enviroment, in most cases these are chosen lifestyles tjm01
  • Score: 10

10:06pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Peace123 says...

@bells70
You are a disgrace. You do not even make any sense. These 'youths' clearly have no parents, they are aloud to wonder the streets at all times of the night. What kind of person does not realise what torment they give to people. I don't know where you live but if you would be woken up at 2am because they are standing outside your window, screaming, shouting and laughing, and you had to get up at 6am, I guaranty you would not be making ridiculous excuses for them. This so called damage to property has been made by them, No adult kicks/punches the walls, spits on windows or graffiti's where they live. How immature are you, where on this planet is it compulsory to provide 16-21 year olds something to do? Thy need to be in education or at work, that's something to do. Clearly their pathetic parents never taught them that. All residents apart from the ones that are involved in the anti social behaviour signed a petition to get rid of them. Everyone wants to live in peace, they don't give two **** about these poor excuse for humans. These youths have created problems for so many people who should live normal lives. You are clearly a parent of one of these youths and as normal thinks its ok for them to ruin people's lives. I wish for you to go through the torment that the residents of queen Mary gate have been through.
@bells70 You are a disgrace. You do not even make any sense. These 'youths' clearly have no parents, they are aloud to wonder the streets at all times of the night. What kind of person does not realise what torment they give to people. I don't know where you live but if you would be woken up at 2am because they are standing outside your window, screaming, shouting and laughing, and you had to get up at 6am, I guaranty you would not be making ridiculous excuses for them. This so called damage to property has been made by them, No adult kicks/punches the walls, spits on windows or graffiti's where they live. How immature are you, where on this planet is it compulsory to provide 16-21 year olds something to do? Thy need to be in education or at work, that's something to do. Clearly their pathetic parents never taught them that. All residents apart from the ones that are involved in the anti social behaviour signed a petition to get rid of them. Everyone wants to live in peace, they don't give two **** about these poor excuse for humans. These youths have created problems for so many people who should live normal lives. You are clearly a parent of one of these youths and as normal thinks its ok for them to ruin people's lives. I wish for you to go through the torment that the residents of queen Mary gate have been through. Peace123
  • Score: 8

10:07pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Peace123 says...

@Villagecranberry
I pay to live here, I pay rent, council tax and bills.
@Villagecranberry I pay to live here, I pay rent, council tax and bills. Peace123
  • Score: 3

10:09pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Peace123 says...

Finally something is being done. Hopefully this will get rid of them and then everyone can live happily.
Finally something is being done. Hopefully this will get rid of them and then everyone can live happily. Peace123
  • Score: 5

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