Council contractors left rubbish in a Walthamstow road despite authority assurance over tackling fly tipping according to resident

Anger over 'constant' fly-tipping

Anger over 'constant' fly-tipping

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Building materials, beds, mattresses and rubbish being dumped on the streets of Walthamstow is not being dealt with quickly or efficiently, according to an angry resident.

Brian Reeves, 63, of Barclay Road in Walthamstow said that he has been in constant contact with the council over fly-tipping in his road.

Despite numerous phone calls from himself and his wife, Mr Reeves said that even when the council did come out on Wednesday, contractors still left rubbish on the pavement.

He also claims that rubbish has been left for up to 12 days at a time.

“The council go on about people reporting fly tipping and then they do nothing about it.

“I watched the guys from Kier come down they took a bit of drainpipe and threw it on the wagon and drove off leaving two bags there.

“They are jumbo bags full of building materials like rubble and cement.”

Mr Reeves has suggested that the council become more proactive about fly-tipping as he claims that some areas of Walthamstow are targeted almost every week.

“There is a spot round the corner where there is always beds, mattresses, chairs and all sorts.

“As soon as it gets taken away it comes back again. It’s like people are laughing at the council. Why don’t they have someone going around looking for it and collecting it – they already pay how many thousands of pounds a week.”

Mr Reeves said that the persistent fly-tipping causes problems for pushchair and wheelchair users.

“If you are a woman with a pram you have to walk in the road to get around the rubbish, it shouldn’t be like that,” He said.

“People shouldn’t have to put up with it, especially since the council has already come out once and left it.”

Waltham Forest Council has been asked to comment.

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12:26pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Villagecranberry says...

When they are caught they get a paltry fine which would be less than the cost of actually paying to dump it.

Once recently got fined £200

A skip costs more than that.

Also , when you take stuff to the dump these days it is like the Spanish Inquisition and many often get turned away. The system is a joke.

When you phone Waltham Forest Direct, you have to describe each item gor collection. It is ridiculous.
When they are caught they get a paltry fine which would be less than the cost of actually paying to dump it. Once recently got fined £200 A skip costs more than that. Also , when you take stuff to the dump these days it is like the Spanish Inquisition and many often get turned away. The system is a joke. When you phone Waltham Forest Direct, you have to describe each item gor collection. It is ridiculous. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 14

1:02pm Sun 13 Jul 14

chrise17 says...

Kier the same people that collect the refuse,
often decide they don't want to collect from a particular road,street and move on for whatever reasons.
So many missed collections in the Waltham forest area and the council drag their heels about it.
Its our money they are given.
Kier the same people that collect the refuse, often decide they don't want to collect from a particular road,street and move on for whatever reasons. So many missed collections in the Waltham forest area and the council drag their heels about it. Its our money they are given. chrise17
  • Score: 12

3:33pm Sun 13 Jul 14

mdj says...

'Why don’t they have someone going around looking for it and collecting it...'

Perhaps more to the point, CCTV cameras are cheap as chips these days, and a wireless model must exist that could be discreetly fixed to walls or lampposts in targeted areas.
Once a few dumpers' trucks have been impounded the message would spread.
'Why don’t they have someone going around looking for it and collecting it...' Perhaps more to the point, CCTV cameras are cheap as chips these days, and a wireless model must exist that could be discreetly fixed to walls or lampposts in targeted areas. Once a few dumpers' trucks have been impounded the message would spread. mdj
  • Score: 20

5:07pm Sun 13 Jul 14

stickmanny says...

Is it only women with prams who have to walk in the road, or is it men too?

Equally silly is the fact that neither the article or any comments lay blame at the door of those who dump the rubbish in the first place.
Is it only women with prams who have to walk in the road, or is it men too? Equally silly is the fact that neither the article or any comments lay blame at the door of those who dump the rubbish in the first place. stickmanny
  • Score: 14

7:20pm Sun 13 Jul 14

Villagecranberry says...

mdj wrote:
'Why don’t they have someone going around looking for it and collecting it...'

Perhaps more to the point, CCTV cameras are cheap as chips these days, and a wireless model must exist that could be discreetly fixed to walls or lampposts in targeted areas.
Once a few dumpers' trucks have been impounded the message would spread.
I have a theory that if they paid anyone who possessed a van a fee for turning up at the council tip, say £5 a cwt of rubbish they have picked up from the street, Walthamstow would be as clean as Switzerland, where most citizens are raised not to pollute their own doorstep.

My proposal would encourage a lucrative return for individuals to clear up the area. Such an easy solution.
[quote][p][bold]mdj[/bold] wrote: 'Why don’t they have someone going around looking for it and collecting it...' Perhaps more to the point, CCTV cameras are cheap as chips these days, and a wireless model must exist that could be discreetly fixed to walls or lampposts in targeted areas. Once a few dumpers' trucks have been impounded the message would spread.[/p][/quote]I have a theory that if they paid anyone who possessed a van a fee for turning up at the council tip, say £5 a cwt of rubbish they have picked up from the street, Walthamstow would be as clean as Switzerland, where most citizens are raised not to pollute their own doorstep. My proposal would encourage a lucrative return for individuals to clear up the area. Such an easy solution. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 2

11:32pm Sun 13 Jul 14

PlymE4 says...

There's a fly-tipping every two weeks near Kings Head Hill...people see a bit of greenery and dump a washing machine on it!
There's a fly-tipping every two weeks near Kings Head Hill...people see a bit of greenery and dump a washing machine on it! PlymE4
  • Score: 6

9:45am Mon 14 Jul 14

driftingcowboy says...

This council, like many others, have an under-resourced environmental-crime team. They simply don't have enough officers to overcome the problem. At least that's what they tell us! However, even where there are regular flytipping areas, the same council is unable or unwilling to come up with methods of catching the flytippers. Most of the flytipping is done at night, but there are no officers on duty at night. The solutions are many but in the short term the council must simply put a few officers out on night duty, perhaps in a special vehicle equipped with hidden cctv and catch the culprits. The council has a duty to us, the citizens and residents of the borough to do more to rid us of this menace.
This council, like many others, have an under-resourced environmental-crime team. They simply don't have enough officers to overcome the problem. At least that's what they tell us! However, even where there are regular flytipping areas, the same council is unable or unwilling to come up with methods of catching the flytippers. Most of the flytipping is done at night, but there are no officers on duty at night. The solutions are many but in the short term the council must simply put a few officers out on night duty, perhaps in a special vehicle equipped with hidden cctv and catch the culprits. The council has a duty to us, the citizens and residents of the borough to do more to rid us of this menace. driftingcowboy
  • Score: 7

12:10pm Mon 14 Jul 14

stickmanny says...

What the same solution that causes outrage when applied to driving offences?

Maximum penalties for fly tipping increased July 1st 2014, to £3million fine / 3 years prison. Ought to have an effect.
What the same solution that causes outrage when applied to driving offences? Maximum penalties for fly tipping increased July 1st 2014, to £3million fine / 3 years prison. Ought to have an effect. stickmanny
  • Score: -1

12:26pm Mon 14 Jul 14

chrise17 says...

Communal bin housings on estates is popular for fly tippers & the residents that reside there for tipping of unwanted furniture etc.
Can ask the council to collect such things with a phone call but people are lazy & those with transport are to lazy to travel to the local waste depot.
Councils don't have or we are led to believe they don't have the cash to spend on catching & prosecuting fly tippers.
Its to easy and popular to dump waste in a street at night,no one to see and very little chance of being seen.
Dangerous to challenge such people also if a resident sees this happening and people don't want to get involved in the prosecuting of these people.
Impossible to have cctv to cover every residential street.
Give less to foreign aid and more to local government?
That's another can of worms.
Communal bin housings on estates is popular for fly tippers & the residents that reside there for tipping of unwanted furniture etc. Can ask the council to collect such things with a phone call but people are lazy & those with transport are to lazy to travel to the local waste depot. Councils don't have or we are led to believe they don't have the cash to spend on catching & prosecuting fly tippers. Its to easy and popular to dump waste in a street at night,no one to see and very little chance of being seen. Dangerous to challenge such people also if a resident sees this happening and people don't want to get involved in the prosecuting of these people. Impossible to have cctv to cover every residential street. Give less to foreign aid and more to local government? That's another can of worms. chrise17
  • Score: 3

1:01pm Mon 14 Jul 14

driftingcowboy says...

chrise17 wrote:
Communal bin housings on estates is popular for fly tippers & the residents that reside there for tipping of unwanted furniture etc.
Can ask the council to collect such things with a phone call but people are lazy & those with transport are to lazy to travel to the local waste depot.
Councils don't have or we are led to believe they don't have the cash to spend on catching & prosecuting fly tippers.
Its to easy and popular to dump waste in a street at night,no one to see and very little chance of being seen.
Dangerous to challenge such people also if a resident sees this happening and people don't want to get involved in the prosecuting of these people.
Impossible to have cctv to cover every residential street.
Give less to foreign aid and more to local government?
That's another can of worms.
Every street doesn't have to be covered. Cover the regular flytipping areas, catch those in the act and publicise the court case and resultant fines.
[quote][p][bold]chrise17[/bold] wrote: Communal bin housings on estates is popular for fly tippers & the residents that reside there for tipping of unwanted furniture etc. Can ask the council to collect such things with a phone call but people are lazy & those with transport are to lazy to travel to the local waste depot. Councils don't have or we are led to believe they don't have the cash to spend on catching & prosecuting fly tippers. Its to easy and popular to dump waste in a street at night,no one to see and very little chance of being seen. Dangerous to challenge such people also if a resident sees this happening and people don't want to get involved in the prosecuting of these people. Impossible to have cctv to cover every residential street. Give less to foreign aid and more to local government? That's another can of worms.[/p][/quote]Every street doesn't have to be covered. Cover the regular flytipping areas, catch those in the act and publicise the court case and resultant fines. driftingcowboy
  • Score: 3

1:04pm Mon 14 Jul 14

driftingcowboy says...

stickmanny wrote:
What the same solution that causes outrage when applied to driving offences?

Maximum penalties for fly tipping increased July 1st 2014, to £3million fine / 3 years prison. Ought to have an effect.
The penalties are meaningless unless they are enforced and that's the point. There is very little real enforcement at all. Why should anyone be outraged if they are caught committing an offence on cctv, whether it be a driving or any other offence? Break the law and pay the penalty!
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: What the same solution that causes outrage when applied to driving offences? Maximum penalties for fly tipping increased July 1st 2014, to £3million fine / 3 years prison. Ought to have an effect.[/p][/quote]The penalties are meaningless unless they are enforced and that's the point. There is very little real enforcement at all. Why should anyone be outraged if they are caught committing an offence on cctv, whether it be a driving or any other offence? Break the law and pay the penalty! driftingcowboy
  • Score: 2

5:33pm Mon 14 Jul 14

mdj says...

' Most of the flytipping is done at night, but there are no officers on duty at night. ...'

A useful exercise for the local TA, surely?
' Most of the flytipping is done at night, but there are no officers on duty at night. ...' A useful exercise for the local TA, surely? mdj
  • Score: -1

11:38am Tue 15 Jul 14

springe57 says...

As always, it's blame the people who don't clear up first instead of the scum that flytip in the first place.
Yes, more enforcement people are needed and it costs money, but surely if the fines were increased it would pay for the extra resources over time. Also, as one reader has stated, cctv is now dirt cheap or vehicle registration recognition systems are available and could be placed in flytip hotspots.
As always, it's blame the people who don't clear up first instead of the scum that flytip in the first place. Yes, more enforcement people are needed and it costs money, but surely if the fines were increased it would pay for the extra resources over time. Also, as one reader has stated, cctv is now dirt cheap or vehicle registration recognition systems are available and could be placed in flytip hotspots. springe57
  • Score: 0

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