Spike in cautions for violence and sex offences in Waltham Forest

Sharp rise in cautions for violence and sex offences

Number of cautions rise by 123 in twelve months

Criminals are "not escaping justice' through cautions process

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There has been a big rise in the number of violent criminals and sexual offenders in Waltham Forests who have been let off with a caution.

Figures obtained by the Guardian show an 87 per cent increase in cautions issued for wounding with intent, previously classified as grievous bodily harm.

The offence is placed under the broad classification of violence against a person, which has seeen cautions rise to 617 in the 12 months to April, compared to 491 in the previous year.

Last year 60 people who admitted sexual offences were cautioned, compared to eight in the previous 12 months.

Cautions are only issued to people who admit an offence, but they do not go through a legal process and their identities are kept out of the public domain.

In total, 1,113 cautions were issued in the borough in the last financial year, compared to 990 in the previous 12 months.

These included offences such as drug trafficking, robbery, burglary and fraud.

Borough Commander Mark Collins has defended the use of cautions, saying the rise reflects an overall increase in reported crime. 

He said: "The number of crimes resulting in a caution has increased during this reporting period in line with the number of crimes reported as a whole.  

"I believe this is due to a mixture of proactive policing within the communities and the growing confidence that the community has for the caution system."

Despite the seriousness of the offences, Chief Superintendent Collins insisted cautions are a “legitimate method for concluding crime”.

He added: "They are certainly not escaping justice and in many cases it assists the victim who does not have to experience a court hearing.

"There is however set criteria for when a caution can be used or considered and I am confident that as a borough we abide by this whenever a caution is given.

"Crimes that fall under the categories of violence against a person, fraud and sexual offences can range from a low level crime to serious offences.  

"Some of these low level crimes may fit the criteria explained above and so would be suitable for a caution."

Reports of crimes such as rape, other sexual offences and domestic violence have increased by 72 per cent in Waltham Forest over the past two years. 

However, police figures show murder, gun crime, robbery and burglaries are falling across the borough. 

For a full breakdown of the 2013/14 cautions, please see this week's Waltham Forest and Chingford Guardian - out Thursday. 

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2:42pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

These statistics are disgraceful and how this police chief can feel proud about them is an absolute travesty of justice. Cautioning people for robberies and burglaries are inexcusable. To caution people for sexual offences is a matter for deep concern.

Collins should resign. This is policing on the cheap, an appalling failing for victims and a matter for an independent inquiry.

Of course in the report the usually rider is added that 'crime is falling'

The police must think that the public were born yesterday. If they are cautioning for such serious offences, this gives added confidence to both the seasoned and novice crooks that they can seemingly get away with anything these days, unless of course you are a tax paying, working motorist doing 31 MPH along a high road or accidently go through a no entry sign, when the police haul you through the courts and throw the book at you.
These statistics are disgraceful and how this police chief can feel proud about them is an absolute travesty of justice. Cautioning people for robberies and burglaries are inexcusable. To caution people for sexual offences is a matter for deep concern. Collins should resign. This is policing on the cheap, an appalling failing for victims and a matter for an independent inquiry. Of course in the report the usually rider is added that 'crime is falling' The police must think that the public were born yesterday. If they are cautioning for such serious offences, this gives added confidence to both the seasoned and novice crooks that they can seemingly get away with anything these days, unless of course you are a tax paying, working motorist doing 31 MPH along a high road or accidently go through a no entry sign, when the police haul you through the courts and throw the book at you. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 6

2:45pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Howard Wolowitz says...

ello ello ello, now let's be having you. Put down that gun lad or I might have to caution you.
ello ello ello, now let's be having you. Put down that gun lad or I might have to caution you. Howard Wolowitz
  • Score: 3

3:15pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

Howard Wolowitz wrote:
ello ello ello, now let's be having you. Put down that gun lad or I might have to caution you.
I don't know what the photo has to do with these cautions. Are these officers running to a cafe?
[quote][p][bold]Howard Wolowitz[/bold] wrote: ello ello ello, now let's be having you. Put down that gun lad or I might have to caution you.[/p][/quote]I don't know what the photo has to do with these cautions. Are these officers running to a cafe? Villagecranberry
  • Score: -7

5:15pm Tue 5 Aug 14

I'm Alan says...

What a joke, in other words the courts and police cannot cope. NOT GOOD ENOUGH..
What a joke, in other words the courts and police cannot cope. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.. I'm Alan
  • Score: 12

7:16pm Tue 5 Aug 14

ColinOrient says...

More good news for lowlife who commit these vile crimes. It all proves the punishments are far too soft.
More good news for lowlife who commit these vile crimes. It all proves the punishments are far too soft. ColinOrient
  • Score: 7

8:43pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

I wonder what Chief Colin's reaction would be if one of his friends or relatives were the victim of serious crime and the perpetrator received a caution.

No doubt when it is one of their own, different rules apply. Utterly despicable this cautioning. Based on laziness and a simple cost effective way of achieving clear up targets on the cheap and denying the victims proper justice.
I wonder what Chief Colin's reaction would be if one of his friends or relatives were the victim of serious crime and the perpetrator received a caution. No doubt when it is one of their own, different rules apply. Utterly despicable this cautioning. Based on laziness and a simple cost effective way of achieving clear up targets on the cheap and denying the victims proper justice. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 1

3:38am Wed 6 Aug 14

SpursSupporter1 says...

The British Justice has gone absolutely beserk? How can somebody who rapes be allowed to get off with a Caution? Surely some sort of enquiry must be opened up to question these judgements, I thought rape carried an automatic custodial sentence? Chief you do not deserve to carry a police officers badge let alone Head up Policing in Waltham Forest time for you to resign allowing sentences of this nature to go ahead
The British Justice has gone absolutely beserk? How can somebody who rapes be allowed to get off with a Caution? Surely some sort of enquiry must be opened up to question these judgements, I thought rape carried an automatic custodial sentence? Chief you do not deserve to carry a police officers badge let alone Head up Policing in Waltham Forest time for you to resign allowing sentences of this nature to go ahead SpursSupporter1
  • Score: 3

7:09am Wed 6 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way.

They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.
The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 2

8:56am Wed 6 Aug 14

DaveInTheForest says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
Howard Wolowitz wrote:
ello ello ello, now let's be having you. Put down that gun lad or I might have to caution you.
I don't know what the photo has to do with these cautions. Are these officers running to a cafe?
running away from a crime in case they have to get involved with any paperwork.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Howard Wolowitz[/bold] wrote: ello ello ello, now let's be having you. Put down that gun lad or I might have to caution you.[/p][/quote]I don't know what the photo has to do with these cautions. Are these officers running to a cafe?[/p][/quote]running away from a crime in case they have to get involved with any paperwork. DaveInTheForest
  • Score: 2

9:09am Wed 6 Aug 14

tjm01 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.
How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.[/p][/quote]How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police tjm01
  • Score: 0

11:31am Wed 6 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.
How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police
It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious!
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.[/p][/quote]How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police[/p][/quote]It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious! Villagecranberry
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6:39am Thu 7 Aug 14

tjm01 says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.
How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police
It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious!
Ah so you don't have any hard evidence
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.[/p][/quote]How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police[/p][/quote]It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious![/p][/quote]Ah so you don't have any hard evidence tjm01
  • Score: 2

9:08am Thu 7 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.
How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police
It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious!
Ah so you don't have any hard evidence
Yes the hard evidence is well documented in the licensing committee public records for all to see. Maybe you can phone a friend to access these via the internet. Have a look at the wads of complainant letters.
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.[/p][/quote]How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police[/p][/quote]It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious![/p][/quote]Ah so you don't have any hard evidence[/p][/quote]Yes the hard evidence is well documented in the licensing committee public records for all to see. Maybe you can phone a friend to access these via the internet. Have a look at the wads of complainant letters. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 1

9:11am Thu 7 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.
How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police
It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious!
Ah so you don't have any hard evidence
Look up Sir Bernard Hogan-Howells admissions also whilst you are at it.
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.[/p][/quote]How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police[/p][/quote]It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious![/p][/quote]Ah so you don't have any hard evidence[/p][/quote]Look up Sir Bernard Hogan-Howells admissions also whilst you are at it. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 1

9:16am Thu 7 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
tjm01 wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.
How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police
It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious!
Ah so you don't have any hard evidence
Take a look at this whilst you are at it;

http://theduckshoot.
com/police-cautions-
scandal/
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: The police are using the cautioning system in a very disturbing way. They are persuading suspects to accept cautions as an alternative to prosecution when in many cases a prosecution will not occur or the possibility of conviction will be low. It is a scandal in the making.[/p][/quote]How do you know this, do you have any proof of this, if so please share your information, or better still use it to ensure your claim that suspects are persuded to accept a caution is stopped, of course to do this your claim MUST be true, and not some dreamed up claptrap pop at the police[/p][/quote]It is well publicised that this is what they do to improve their clear up rate. That is how I know. Also blatantly obvious![/p][/quote]Ah so you don't have any hard evidence[/p][/quote]Take a look at this whilst you are at it; http://theduckshoot. com/police-cautions- scandal/ Villagecranberry
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