Community "feel hopeless" over plight of Palestinians in Gaza

Chairman Yusuf Hansa (centre) holds the letter to David Cameron with Mosque leaders

Mosque leaders write to PM over Gaza conflict

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East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter - Waltham Forest

Senior mosque figures in Waltham Forest have written to Number 10 calling on the government to condemn Israeli attacks in Gaza. 

The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques (WFCOM), which represents nine of the largest mosques in the borough, sent the letter to Mr Cameron and Nick Clegg following concerns raised in the community.

The two-page letter outlines these concerns over the thousands of Palestinian deaths and the government's perceived "encouragement" of Israel by emphasising the country's right to defend itself. 

Chairman of the WFCOM, Yusuf Hansa, says dozens of Muslim mothers in the borough have written to the council in recent weeks.  

He said: "Many people feel as though they can’t do much but pray so we decided to write a letter letting David Cameron know how Muslims and the wider community feel.

"This is affecting the majority of British citizens; we feel it and feel hopeless.

"It is time to say enough is enough Cameron. Kids playing in the sand are being murdered. They can’t run away, they cannot escape. 

"It has nothing to do with the fact it is Israel, we would say this to any other nation."

Plans to extend a three-day ceasefire ended today after Israel launched air strikes across the Gaza strip in response to reported rockets fired by Hamas. 

At a press conference in Jerusalem on Wednesday, Israel’s President Benjamin Netanyahu blamed Hamas for the loss of life on both sides, and said it was using "legitimate means against these double war crimes of targeting civilians and hiding behind civilians". 

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2:28pm Fri 8 Aug 14

myopinioncounts says...

If only they were willing to condemn the actions of HAMAS!
If only they were willing to condemn the actions of HAMAS! myopinioncounts
  • Score: 18

3:05pm Fri 8 Aug 14

hursthill says...

Not 1 word in the article about the rocket barage by Hamas on Israel. Over 4,000 rockets fired from Hospitals, schools & children's bedrooms at Israeli kids.

Yusaf hansa condemn that !
More rockets have landed on Israel in 3 weeks, then the Nazis fired at London in the blitz. Do your parents remember the Blitz Yusaf ?

Israel has the legal & moral right to defend itself. Israel has no territorial claim on Gaza. _ The border is internationally recognised. It is Hamas who want to erradicate & occupy Israel, imposing their homophobic,sexist & racist ideology on the whole region.

Even as I write, Hamas have broken the 3 day truce ( which Israel accepted), in order to fire their Iranian & Syrian rockets.

While you are at it Yusuf, why not condemn the 200,000 killed by assad in Syria, or the Palestinians murdered by Hamas, because they supported Fatah.
Not 1 word in the article about the rocket barage by Hamas on Israel. Over 4,000 rockets fired from Hospitals, schools & children's bedrooms at Israeli kids. Yusaf hansa condemn that ! More rockets have landed on Israel in 3 weeks, then the Nazis fired at London in the blitz. Do your parents remember the Blitz Yusaf ? Israel has the legal & moral right to defend itself. Israel has no territorial claim on Gaza. _ The border is internationally recognised. It is Hamas who want to erradicate & occupy Israel, imposing their homophobic,sexist & racist ideology on the whole region. Even as I write, Hamas have broken the 3 day truce ( which Israel accepted), in order to fire their Iranian & Syrian rockets. While you are at it Yusuf, why not condemn the 200,000 killed by assad in Syria, or the Palestinians murdered by Hamas, because they supported Fatah. hursthill
  • Score: 12

3:12pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

Will Yusuf write to the leader of Tower Hamlets asking why they have not removed inflammatory and decisive flags placed on their property?
Will Yusuf write to the leader of Tower Hamlets asking why they have not removed inflammatory and decisive flags placed on their property? Villagecranberry
  • Score: 13

3:34pm Fri 8 Aug 14

percoolator says...

Perhaps he and his supporters will also write to David Cameron condeming the persecution of Christians in Iraq by ISIS?

No - I thought not. Double standards!
Perhaps he and his supporters will also write to David Cameron condeming the persecution of Christians in Iraq by ISIS? No - I thought not. Double standards! percoolator
  • Score: 16

3:47pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

percoolator wrote:
Perhaps he and his supporters will also write to David Cameron condeming the persecution of Christians in Iraq by ISIS?

No - I thought not. Double standards!
Maybe Val Doonigan could intervene also.
[quote][p][bold]percoolator[/bold] wrote: Perhaps he and his supporters will also write to David Cameron condeming the persecution of Christians in Iraq by ISIS? No - I thought not. Double standards![/p][/quote]Maybe Val Doonigan could intervene also. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -15

5:40pm Fri 8 Aug 14

fed up man says...

It would be great if yusuf and his friends all went to gaza to help them rather than have their photos taken by the guardian!!!!
It would be great if yusuf and his friends all went to gaza to help them rather than have their photos taken by the guardian!!!! fed up man
  • Score: 15

5:57pm Fri 8 Aug 14

chingford lad says...

Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today.
Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today. chingford lad
  • Score: 12

9:48pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

chingford lad wrote:
Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today.
You are spot on, they start it every time and up the anti.
[quote][p][bold]chingford lad[/bold] wrote: Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today.[/p][/quote]You are spot on, they start it every time and up the anti. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 7

9:12am Sat 9 Aug 14

stickmanny says...

chingford lad wrote:
Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today.
For the population of Gaza 'today' is barely worth living for and hasn't been since 1948.

Gaza has been subject to military occupation for almost 40 years since 1948 then under blockade from 1994. We don't address this and so the violence continues, affecting Israel as well as Palestine.

1. Stop your violence Israel
2. Stop your violence Hamas
3. Stop the occupation
4. Talk
[quote][p][bold]chingford lad[/bold] wrote: Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today.[/p][/quote]For the population of Gaza 'today' is barely worth living for and hasn't been since 1948. Gaza has been subject to military occupation for almost 40 years since 1948 then under blockade from 1994. We don't address this and so the violence continues, affecting Israel as well as Palestine. 1. Stop your violence Israel 2. Stop your violence Hamas 3. Stop the occupation 4. Talk stickmanny
  • Score: 0

10:38am Sat 9 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

stickmanny wrote:
chingford lad wrote:
Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today.
For the population of Gaza 'today' is barely worth living for and hasn't been since 1948.

Gaza has been subject to military occupation for almost 40 years since 1948 then under blockade from 1994. We don't address this and so the violence continues, affecting Israel as well as Palestine.

1. Stop your violence Israel
2. Stop your violence Hamas
3. Stop the occupation
4. Talk
Stickmanny you could be the new Kofi Annan.

Wise words at last.
[quote][p][bold]stickmanny[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chingford lad[/bold] wrote: Hamas launched missiles at Israel as soon as the ceasefire ended. Where do they keep their brains? They know the consequences so it must be that they don`t give a **** for the people of Gaza. Stop your aggression Hamas, live for today.[/p][/quote]For the population of Gaza 'today' is barely worth living for and hasn't been since 1948. Gaza has been subject to military occupation for almost 40 years since 1948 then under blockade from 1994. We don't address this and so the violence continues, affecting Israel as well as Palestine. 1. Stop your violence Israel 2. Stop your violence Hamas 3. Stop the occupation 4. Talk[/p][/quote]Stickmanny you could be the new Kofi Annan. Wise words at last. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 3

12:06pm Sun 10 Aug 14

wadz2014 says...

Israel has destroyed everything in its path:
10700+ houses
23 hospitals and clinics
188 schools
The only power plant
7 UN Shelters
130 mosques and Churches

Using targeting Hamas as an excuse to kill 1000s of innocent people who just want to live in peace. Before Hamas Israel took land and killed innocent people so Hamas is not the problem. The are an elected party. Im not saying its right they are firing rockets into civilian population but remember Palestine do not have an army. They are the occupied people who just want their land back.
Do a simple Google Image search - 'Palestine loss of land' and there is no argument who the victim and who occupier is.
Israel has destroyed everything in its path: 10700+ houses 23 hospitals and clinics 188 schools The only power plant 7 UN Shelters 130 mosques and Churches Using targeting Hamas as an excuse to kill 1000s of innocent people who just want to live in peace. Before Hamas Israel took land and killed innocent people so Hamas is not the problem. The are an elected party. Im not saying its right they are firing rockets into civilian population but remember Palestine do not have an army. They are the occupied people who just want their land back. Do a simple Google Image search - 'Palestine loss of land' and there is no argument who the victim and who occupier is. wadz2014
  • Score: 3

1:53pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Peace&justice says...

Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers. Peace&justice
  • Score: 6

2:05pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
[quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop. Villagecranberry
  • Score: -5

3:44pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Peace&justice says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967.

What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.)

What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution.

What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians.

What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF.

What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand.

You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948.

If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations.

Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them.

It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned.

I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.[/p][/quote]What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967. What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers. What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.) What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution. What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians. What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF. What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand. You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948. If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations. Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them. It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned. I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more. Peace&justice
  • Score: 2

7:01pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967.

What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.)

What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution.

What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians.

What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF.

What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand.

You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948.

If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations.

Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them.

It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned.

I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.
Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?.

Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.
[quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.[/p][/quote]What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967. What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers. What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.) What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution. What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians. What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF. What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand. You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948. If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations. Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them. It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned. I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?. Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 3

8:59pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Peace&justice says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967.

What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.)

What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution.

What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians.

What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF.

What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand.

You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948.

If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations.

Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them.

It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned.

I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.
Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?.

Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.
I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries.

Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being.

Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.[/p][/quote]What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967. What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers. What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.) What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution. What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians. What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF. What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand. You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948. If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations. Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them. It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned. I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?. Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.[/p][/quote]I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries. Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being. Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion. Peace&justice
  • Score: 7

8:59pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Peace&justice says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967.

What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.)

What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution.

What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians.

What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF.

What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand.

You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948.

If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations.

Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them.

It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned.

I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.
Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?.

Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.
I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries.

Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being.

Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.[/p][/quote]What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967. What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers. What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.) What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution. What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians. What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF. What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand. You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948. If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations. Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them. It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned. I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?. Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.[/p][/quote]I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries. Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being. Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion. Peace&justice
  • Score: 1

1:11am Mon 11 Aug 14

Villagecranberry says...

Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967.

What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.)

What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution.

What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians.

What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF.

What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand.

You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948.

If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations.

Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them.

It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned.

I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.
Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?.

Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.
I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries.

Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being.

Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.
Yes, we all hope the aggression stops and talks continue to save the innocent in all this.
[quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.[/p][/quote]What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967. What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers. What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.) What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution. What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians. What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF. What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand. You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948. If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations. Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them. It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned. I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?. Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.[/p][/quote]I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries. Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being. Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.[/p][/quote]Yes, we all hope the aggression stops and talks continue to save the innocent in all this. Villagecranberry
  • Score: 0

9:31pm Tue 12 Aug 14

bluebilge says...

Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967.

What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.)

What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution.

What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians.

What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF.

What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand.

You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948.

If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations.

Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them.

It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned.

I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.
Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?.

Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.
I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries.

Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being.

Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.
In 1948 there were 230,000 Jews in Morocco, 130,000 in Iraq, 110,000 in Algeria, 90,000 in Iran, 80,000 in Egypt, 50,000 in Yemen, 30,000 in Syria etc, mostly living in those places for 400+ years. Their expulsion and ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with Europe. Between 1920 and 1970, 900000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries.
[quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.[/p][/quote]What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967. What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers. What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.) What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution. What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians. What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF. What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand. You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948. If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations. Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them. It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned. I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?. Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.[/p][/quote]I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries. Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being. Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.[/p][/quote]In 1948 there were 230,000 Jews in Morocco, 130,000 in Iraq, 110,000 in Algeria, 90,000 in Iran, 80,000 in Egypt, 50,000 in Yemen, 30,000 in Syria etc, mostly living in those places for 400+ years. Their expulsion and ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with Europe. Between 1920 and 1970, 900000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries. bluebilge
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11:19pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Peace&justice says...

bluebilge wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Villagecranberry wrote:
Peace&justice wrote:
Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here.

Here are some followings facts.

Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with.

66,693 Palestinians
have been injured since September 29, 2000

Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine
5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel

28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished
by Israel since 1967

The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza.

Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.

At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians
have been killed since September 29, 2000.

International Law

International humanitarian law prohibits occupying power citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

Taking Control of the Land

Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements.

Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.
Rubbish.

If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.
What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967.

What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers.

What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.)

What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution.

What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians.

What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF.

What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand.

You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948.

If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations.

Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them.

It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned.

I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.
Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?.

Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.
I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries.

Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being.

Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.
In 1948 there were 230,000 Jews in Morocco, 130,000 in Iraq, 110,000 in Algeria, 90,000 in Iran, 80,000 in Egypt, 50,000 in Yemen, 30,000 in Syria etc, mostly living in those places for 400+ years. Their expulsion and ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with Europe. Between 1920 and 1970, 900000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries.
Yes and let's not forget that a large majority of Palestinians were also ethnically cleansed too and the rest were kicked out of their homes and lands for the creation of Israel in 1948 too.

It's really surprising that you are suggesting that Jewish people were not ethnically cleansed in Europe. I think you must have forgotten the atrocities that happened in Germany and Poland which the last time I checked are in Europe no.
[quote][p][bold]bluebilge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peace&justice[/bold] wrote: Well done to Yusuf and The Waltham Forest Council of Mosques for addressing this issue to the prime minister and duputy prime minister. It is sad to see that they are a lot anti-muslim scentiments on here. Here are some followings facts. Israel is the target of at least 77 UN Resolutions which they have not complied with. 66,693 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000 Political Prisoners in Israel/Palestine 5,271 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 28,000 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 The Israeli unemployment rate is 5.8%, while the Palestinian unemployment rate in the West Bank is 22.6% and 27.9% in Gaza. Israel currently has 163 Jewish-only settlements and 99 "outposts" built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. At least 1,182 Israelis and 8,845 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000. International Law International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population. The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement. Taking Control of the Land Israel has used a complex legal and bureaucratic mechanism to take control of more than fifty percent of the land in the West Bank. This land has been used mainly to establish settlements and create reserves of land for the future expansion of the settlements. Israel uses the seized lands to benefit the settlements, while prohibiting the Palestinian public from using them in any way. This use is forbidden and illegal in itself. As the occupier in the Occupied Territories, Israel is not permitted to ignore the needs of an entire population and to use land intended for public needs solely to benefit the settlers.[/p][/quote]Rubbish. If they stop firing rockets, Israel will stop.[/p][/quote]What is rubbish is that the Palestinians have been under occupation since 1967. What is disgraceful is that Israel continues annexing more and more of the West Bank and Gaza for Israeli settlers. What is rubbish is that Israel continues to disregard the UN Resolutions past against them. (As of 2013, Israel had been condemned in 45 resolutions by United Nations Human Rights Council since its creation in 2006 the Council had resolved almost more resolutions condemning Israel than on the rest of the world combined.) What is rubbish is that Israel refuses to discuss a two state solution. What is rubbish is the disproportionate force in which the IDF is attacking Palestinians. What is rubbish is that UN refugee buildings are attacked by the IDF. What is rubbish is that innocent men women and children who have nothing to do with Hamas have been murdered in the thousand. You say Israel will stop if they stop firing rockets but Israel has not stopped their apartheid and Human rights breaches against the Palestinian people since 1948. If Israel is really committed to peace it would address the Palestinian people's concerns and aspirations. Israel should end the blockade of Gaza. Stop annexing more of the West Bank and Gaza. Abide by the UN Resolution passed against them. It takes two to tango in order to create a long lasting peace for all concerned. I pray that one day they will be peace and no-one has to suffer any more.[/p][/quote]Yes, but the Jews had a global attempt of extinction since the 30's?. Ultimately, both sides can never win unless they stop hostilities and have a continual pease negotiation forum.[/p][/quote]I accept that Jewish people have had a very hard time since the 30's which was caused by many European countries. Israelis have a territory which it has called home since 1948. I think it has been long overdue for the Palestinians to have something they can call home too without being under occupation/blockade that is a basic right of any human being. Hopefully both sides can discuss terms soon which eventually leads to a satisfactory conclusion.[/p][/quote]In 1948 there were 230,000 Jews in Morocco, 130,000 in Iraq, 110,000 in Algeria, 90,000 in Iran, 80,000 in Egypt, 50,000 in Yemen, 30,000 in Syria etc, mostly living in those places for 400+ years. Their expulsion and ethnic cleansing had nothing to do with Europe. Between 1920 and 1970, 900000 Jews were expelled from Arab and other Muslim countries.[/p][/quote]Yes and let's not forget that a large majority of Palestinians were also ethnically cleansed too and the rest were kicked out of their homes and lands for the creation of Israel in 1948 too. It's really surprising that you are suggesting that Jewish people were not ethnically cleansed in Europe. I think you must have forgotten the atrocities that happened in Germany and Poland which the last time I checked are in Europe no. Peace&justice
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7:54pm Fri 15 Aug 14

VESTRYPARK says...

This is not a religious war but originates from a nationalist movement which made approx 260 odd terrorist attacks in the 1940's and are known as zionists. They killed British soldiers, Muslims and Jews and also killed Americans. Both the US and UK stated these were terrorist attacks and named the individuals concerned who later went to become Israels first PM.

Don't keep using Hamas as an excuse as the Palestinians have been oppressed, terrorised, tortured etc since the early 1900's when the Zionist movement started to take effect!!

Don't confuse Zionism with Judaism as they have no relation. Don't trust the media which also supported Blairs invasion in Iraq on the pretext of WMD. Now Iraq is in crisis.

As a Muslim I totally deplore the actions of ISIS and they have no resemblance to Islam. ISIS are raving looneys who have lost all sense of humanity.

Stop Israel and ISIS from committing atrocities in any way necessary!!!
This is not a religious war but originates from a nationalist movement which made approx 260 odd terrorist attacks in the 1940's and are known as zionists. They killed British soldiers, Muslims and Jews and also killed Americans. Both the US and UK stated these were terrorist attacks and named the individuals concerned who later went to become Israels first PM. Don't keep using Hamas as an excuse as the Palestinians have been oppressed, terrorised, tortured etc since the early 1900's when the Zionist movement started to take effect!! Don't confuse Zionism with Judaism as they have no relation. Don't trust the media which also supported Blairs invasion in Iraq on the pretext of WMD. Now Iraq is in crisis. As a Muslim I totally deplore the actions of ISIS and they have no resemblance to Islam. ISIS are raving looneys who have lost all sense of humanity. Stop Israel and ISIS from committing atrocities in any way necessary!!! VESTRYPARK
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