Dog waste bins to be removed

DOG waste bins across the borough are to be replaced with dual recycling and litter bins which will be emptied by Kier - prompting fears that they will become overflowing with excrement.

In a bid to increase recycling rates and reduce litter, 800 litter bins and 310 dog waste bins will be replaced with 1,100 dual bins, with one section for food waste and dog mess, and the other for mixed recycling, including card, cans and glass bottles.

Waltham Forest Council expects to become the first borough in the whole of the country to replace every single bin with a dual bin.

Because dog waste is no longer treated as clinical waste by the government and can now be disposed of with conventional waste, separate dog bins will no longer be available.

Dog waste bins will therefore be swapped for litter bins, and their emptying will become the responsibility of contractors Kier.

Some residents are worried because of contractor Kier’s track record for missed rubbish collections, public bins may become overflowing with dog waste.

James Pitman, a campaigner for cleaner streets, of Winns Terrace, Walthamstow, said: “I wouldn’t want to see bins with dog waste at the side of the street or outside schools.

"It is great people use dog waste bins, but they are normally in green areas near parks, not in the high street - that is absolutely ridiculous.”

He added: “We live in a culture where people don’t put rubbish in bins and throw them out of the window. To get people to use bins is hard enough. It is a waste of money because people are not responsible enough to put it in the right one.”

Waltham Forest Council's Cabinet Member for Environment, Cllr Bob Belam, said: “We would have an education programme about litter, recycling and dog waste.

"We cannot make people do it, but we would encourage them. And we will be talking with dog clubs about the new bins."

When asked about Keir’s tendency to leave bags by bins before collection, Mr Belam added: “I wouldn’t fancy having dog waste in a bag on the street for too many hours.

But maybe we won’t need sacks and can introduce a different system. It is something that will be looked into.”

The council said the £238,700 cost of the new bins will be paid for using the savings of the £60,000 a year cost of emptying the existing dog waste bins.

A pilot will run from January to March, followed by new bins being put in April.

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10:04am Wed 12 Nov 08

Bert Small says...

This is going to be a recipe for disaster. Everyone can see it except the Council. We WILL have doggy doo do's in the wrong bin and if the waste bins are anything to go by, overflowing.

It is well know that doggy doo do is very dangerous when children are in contact as it can lead to blindness.

What next in this Borough? Bring out the dead and leave by the lamp post?
This is going to be a recipe for disaster. Everyone can see it except the Council. We WILL have doggy doo do's in the wrong bin and if the waste bins are anything to go by, overflowing. It is well know that doggy doo do is very dangerous when children are in contact as it can lead to blindness. What next in this Borough? Bring out the dead and leave by the lamp post? Bert Small
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11:18am Wed 12 Nov 08

Ferdy50 says...

Are you allowed to say this idea is a load of crap?
Are you allowed to say this idea is a load of crap? Ferdy50
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12:41pm Wed 12 Nov 08

Technomist says...

An "education programme"? How much is that going to cost?
An "education programme"? How much is that going to cost? Technomist
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4:02pm Wed 12 Nov 08

Baffled says...

Kier aren't even organised enough to pick up the bags of swept leaves. Welcome to squalor.
Kier aren't even organised enough to pick up the bags of swept leaves. Welcome to squalor. Baffled
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5:57pm Wed 12 Nov 08

Bert Smell says...

In my day, we didn't need namby-pamby white elephants like dog waste bins. Dogs either cleaned up their own Doo-Doo or didn't go to the toilet at all! When oh when when these faceless bureaucrats in the council realise that the dog Doo-Doo problem affects not just dogs but people too.
In my day, we didn't need namby-pamby white elephants like dog waste bins. Dogs either cleaned up their own Doo-Doo or didn't go to the toilet at all! When oh when when these faceless bureaucrats in the council realise that the dog Doo-Doo problem affects not just dogs but people too. Bert Smell
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11:02pm Wed 12 Nov 08

Walthamster says...

So there's a serious health risk if this isn't done efficiently. And the council is giving the contract to Kier. And Kier are known for one thing only: inefficiency.
Yes, this is Waltham Forest.
So there's a serious health risk if this isn't done efficiently. And the council is giving the contract to Kier. And Kier are known for one thing only: inefficiency. Yes, this is Waltham Forest. Walthamster
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11:15am Thu 13 Nov 08

Baffled says...

"Dogs either cleaned up their own Doo-Doo or didn't go to the toilet at all! "

Wow, dogs were clever back in the 1890s. Did they have their own shovels?
"Dogs either cleaned up their own Doo-Doo or didn't go to the toilet at all! " Wow, dogs were clever back in the 1890s. Did they have their own shovels? Baffled
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12:57pm Thu 13 Nov 08

Walthamstow noob says...

So if you found a new bin overflowing with dog poop would the council have to report itself for some kind of health and safety violation?
So if you found a new bin overflowing with dog poop would the council have to report itself for some kind of health and safety violation? Walthamstow noob
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9:45pm Thu 13 Nov 08

Redfox says...

Can anyone tell me just how this scenario stands in regard to the muslim community who regard dogs per sa, as dirty because they lick themselves clean after toilet duties? Hence their abhorrence to owning domestic dogs or cats as pets.
Has council realised that this can only result in almost half the population of Waltham Forest refusing to use the dual bins on ethnic religious grounds?
Can anyone tell me just how this scenario stands in regard to the muslim community who regard dogs per sa, as dirty because they lick themselves clean after toilet duties? Hence their abhorrence to owning domestic dogs or cats as pets. Has council realised that this can only result in almost half the population of Waltham Forest refusing to use the dual bins on ethnic religious grounds? Redfox
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3:00am Sun 16 Nov 08

Ridley says...

Kier have already proven they can't perform their first task - why are they still around and given even more responsibility?
Kier have already proven they can't perform their first task - why are they still around and given even more responsibility? Ridley
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10:32am Mon 17 Nov 08

Walthamster says...

Ridly, you'll never get that questioned answered by this council.
Ridly, you'll never get that questioned answered by this council. Walthamster
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