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Imam of the Masjid-E-Umer mosque in Walthamstow says the convictions should be a lesson


A MUSLIM leader has condemned the actions of bomb plotters jailed for conspiracy to cause mass murder.

Adam Khatib, of Wellington Road, Walthamstow, was found guilty of being part of a terrorist cell led by Abdullah Ahmed Ali, also from Walthamstow, which planned to blow up transatlantic passenger planes using bombs disguised as soft drinks.

Co-defendant Nabeel Hussain, 25, of Chingford, was jailed for eight years after being found guilty of preparing terrorist acts by meeting Ali twice in July 2006 and possessing materials, namely a will, mobile phones and a £25,000 loan application, for use in terrorism.

Four Waltham Forest men have now been convicted of what has been described as an attempt to carry out the biggest terrorist atrocity since 9/11.

Tanvir Hussain, of Leyton, was in September convicted along with Ali of conspiring to cause mass murder. A number of the plotters have been reported to have worshipped at the Masjid-E-Umer mosque in Queens Road, Walthamstow.

And Imam Mohammed Shoaid admitted the mosque has been targeted by extremists who distribute leaflets after Friday prayers.

Immam Shoaid also said he has handed CDs promoting terrorism training, which were left in the mosque foyer, over to police.

He said: ““What (the plotters) were thinking of doing was wrong. They say they are doing it in the name of Islam but that is wrong. To kill innocent people is not permissible even in times of war - it is murder and nothing else.”

“It is a worry and it is frustrating because it is the actions of a few individuals, but blame comes to the whole community - and even to the mosque. “In reality, the mosque has nothing to do with those people and their actions, but because of their actions the whole community suffers.

“It is very hard to identify those being influenced by extremists. But I think the groups are more prevalent in Universities. Here, I wouldn't expect it because I would confront them and report it.

"But I have children at University and I told them to use the prayer rooms but not to join an Islamic Society as you don't know who will be giving the lectures. I think it is a problem that is not being addressed.”

He continued: “But we are connecting with young people and at Friday lectures sometimes we touch on these issues. People need to know this is wrong and I hope this serves as a lesson to them.”

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Comments(7)

marsh warbler says...
8:43pm Thu 10 Dec 09

Some respondents to a previous article on this case expressed scepticism about the chances of Muslim community leaders condemning the actions of these misguided young men. I hope the Imam's publicly stated views will give some reassurance and that other leaders will take encouragement to add their voices in a similar vein. Personally, I think the young men who fall prey to extemism of this kind are beyond the reach of moderate Muslim leaders but it is helpful for the wider community to appreciate that not all Muslims, or mosques, harbour, promote or condone extremist views - and, in fact, that most do not.

EWX says...
7:56am Fri 11 Dec 09

I hope he is telling the truth but he wouldn't be the first imam to say one thing to the kafir (thats us) and preach another to the brothers on a Friday.
They call it taqiyya - lying to the infidel is acceptable to protect and promote Islam.
Some of these men went to his mosque after all.

natterjack says...
2:56pm Fri 11 Dec 09

EWX has a point, of course, and caution is always advisable in these matters but, as a token of goodwill and reconciliation, we should at least be willing to show our good faith (as it were) by giving avowedly moderate Muslims the benefit of the doubt and extending the hand of friendship to them. Given how bad the current situation is we in the host community have little more to lose and potentially much to gain from dialogue and generosity of spirit.

Redfox says...
4:30pm Fri 11 Dec 09

(I)man speak with forked tongue!

refer to the Sunday Times of 13th August 2006 wherein EIGHT of the plane plotting bombers were stated as having attended that mosque. Three mentioned as Zaman, Savant & Saddeque were "well known to those that run it" and further that they "were good muslims".

We have not seen or heard that the leaders of the mosque condemn them individually by name. Is that forbidden in their religion?

Why not give them a platform at the Stoneydown Park People's Corner? That will give the whole multi-cultural community (host community as stated by natterjack) the opportunity to hear them in public and not behind closed doors where women are also barred.

It would also bode well if the council's community safety cabinet representative, Mr Akram, came forward to speak too.

Panoptes says...
1:23pm Sat 12 Dec 09

A pox on all religions, I say. However, natterjack has a point. Given we are where we are in this ghastly cycle of prejudice and hatred those of us of good will should at least be prepared to engage positively and take expressions of concern and disapproval from Muslim community leaders at face value. The alternative (ie the sort of sectarian, inter-communal violence we've only recently seen abate in Northern Ireland) is too dreadful to contemplate. The Northern Ireland peace process drew some lessons drom the Truth and Reconciliation process in South Africa. Maybe a bit more of that spirit and a bit less suspicion might get us further.

keld says...
2:29pm Sat 12 Dec 09

Give the Muslim community a break. I welcome this statement and reflects how many people in the community have moved on.

faro0485 says...
6:56am Tue 22 Dec 09

"I think the young men who fall prey to extemism of this kind are..."

...are promoted to do so because of the uneducated attitude and tone of voice, and use of terms by all 6 commenters above.

Where are the educated individuals who don't fall into category of pleb by using such terms as "moderate muslims", "taqiyya - lying to the infidel", "hand of friendship", "the mosque condemn them", "A pox on all religions", "people in the community have moved on"?

Perhaps it's not as bad as when the "imam" told his children to "not to join an Islamic Society"... if that wasn't a call for the imam's secular children to more likely become terrorists... then thats a sure sign of trust being taken away.


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