Traders promised solution to Epping parking woes

An authority has vowed to try and counter the effects of a rise in charges at a station car park.

Traders in Epping say that since a day’s parking at the town’s station was hiked from £5.50 to £6 per day in early January, commuters have been blocking spaces usually used by shoppers.

Epping Forest Chamber of Commerce chairman John Price said: “We want our streets to be vibrant places, not ghost towns filled with the cars of people who simply park there all day so they can travel by train to work.”

Gary Waller, Epping Forest District Council’s highways portfolio holder, said: “We’re aware it’s had a significant effect and it’s an absolute priority for us to produce an action plan to respond to the situation.”

But he admitted that with no power over charges at the station car park, which is run by National Car Parks (NCP), and a commitment to freezing prices for shoppers at the council’s Bakers Lane and Cottis Lane car parks, which currently stand at £2.80, his task would be hard.

He added: “One could have various permit schemes, but we don’t want to develop a bureaucracy if we can avoid it.

“We’ve not been putting up our charges, certainly as far as shoppers are concerned, because we want to have people shopping in the town, rather than elsewhere.”

Options for fixing the problem could include introducing a higher all-day tariff in town centre car parks and limiting stays there to a few hours.

Cllr Waller said he would report back to the council’s next cabinet meeting on March 11.

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12:01pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Interested Party 1945 says...

It is a pity that the council is not committed to dealing with the similar problem of commuter parking in station way in Buckhurst Hill. It creates huges problems for local residents. The local council, spearheaded by Cllr Gavin Chambers, have just exacerbated the problem by introducing more free commuter parking for the area, rather than seeking to clamp down on it.
It is a pity that the council is not committed to dealing with the similar problem of commuter parking in station way in Buckhurst Hill. It creates huges problems for local residents. The local council, spearheaded by Cllr Gavin Chambers, have just exacerbated the problem by introducing more free commuter parking for the area, rather than seeking to clamp down on it. Interested Party 1945
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4:38pm Wed 27 Feb 13

dtmgables says...

Interested Party 1945 wrote:
It is a pity that the council is not committed to dealing with the similar problem of commuter parking in station way in Buckhurst Hill. It creates huges problems for local residents. The local council, spearheaded by Cllr Gavin Chambers, have just exacerbated the problem by introducing more free commuter parking for the area, rather than seeking to clamp down on it.
Totally disagree with this comment. If you just left these areas as they used to be, rather than restrict the whole area or permit most of it, you just exacerbate the problem further. There was more than enough space for commuters and residents. Now you end up with most of the permitted spaces being empty due to the fact that there isnt really enough resident cars to fill all the permitted areas in the first place.... Just another stealth tax for the council who can charge for the permits....
[quote][p][bold]Interested Party 1945[/bold] wrote: It is a pity that the council is not committed to dealing with the similar problem of commuter parking in station way in Buckhurst Hill. It creates huges problems for local residents. The local council, spearheaded by Cllr Gavin Chambers, have just exacerbated the problem by introducing more free commuter parking for the area, rather than seeking to clamp down on it.[/p][/quote]Totally disagree with this comment. If you just left these areas as they used to be, rather than restrict the whole area or permit most of it, you just exacerbate the problem further. There was more than enough space for commuters and residents. Now you end up with most of the permitted spaces being empty due to the fact that there isnt really enough resident cars to fill all the permitted areas in the first place.... Just another stealth tax for the council who can charge for the permits.... dtmgables
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8:20pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Why do they not just walk or ride a bike?
Why do they not just walk or ride a bike? Cornbeefur
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9:09am Thu 28 Feb 13

hursthill says...

The reason "they do not walk or just ride a bike" is that commuters from outside Epping Forest drive many miles to take advantage of cheap / free parking .

> Thus depriving residents & traders , who pay council tax, of the option to park their cars. This is resulting in the death of our high streets.

To "just leave these areas as they used to be" > is no longer an option.
The reason "they do not walk or just ride a bike" is that commuters from outside Epping Forest drive many miles to take advantage of cheap / free parking . > Thus depriving residents & traders , who pay council tax, of the option to park their cars. This is resulting in the death of our high streets. To "just leave these areas as they used to be" > is no longer an option. hursthill
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10:30am Thu 28 Feb 13

dtmgables says...

hursthill wrote:
The reason "they do not walk or just ride a bike" is that commuters from outside Epping Forest drive many miles to take advantage of cheap / free parking . > Thus depriving residents & traders , who pay council tax, of the option to park their cars. This is resulting in the death of our high streets. To "just leave these areas as they used to be" > is no longer an option.
Since when did paying your council tax give you exclusive access to the train station in your town?? The article is discussing commuters using a 'public car park' as part of their daily commute.

They are doing nothing wrong except exercising common sense in refusing to pay the extortionate parking fees charged at the station car park.

The high street decline has got nothing to do with the parking issues whatsoever, that is a cause of the current economic environment.
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: The reason "they do not walk or just ride a bike" is that commuters from outside Epping Forest drive many miles to take advantage of cheap / free parking . > Thus depriving residents & traders , who pay council tax, of the option to park their cars. This is resulting in the death of our high streets. To "just leave these areas as they used to be" > is no longer an option.[/p][/quote]Since when did paying your council tax give you exclusive access to the train station in your town?? The article is discussing commuters using a 'public car park' as part of their daily commute. They are doing nothing wrong except exercising common sense in refusing to pay the extortionate parking fees charged at the station car park. The high street decline has got nothing to do with the parking issues whatsoever, that is a cause of the current economic environment. dtmgables
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12:32pm Thu 28 Feb 13

hursthill says...

dtmgables has made several errors that need to be corrected - :

1) The public car parks are owned by EFDC. It is their stated intention that they are for the benefit of local residents & traders, NOT commuters.

2) The independent review set up by the goverment into the decline of high streets ( Mary Portas review), concluded that parking problems were a major factor. Every high street trader will confirm this point.

3) Commuters from outside the borough can exercise common sense & use their local station.

There are not sufficient parking spaces available.

Like it or not the world has changed. Many families now have 3 or 4 cars, & the council is NOT going to "leave things as they used to be".
dtmgables has made several errors that need to be corrected - : 1) The public car parks are owned by EFDC. It is their stated intention that they are for the benefit of local residents & traders, NOT commuters. 2) The independent review set up by the goverment into the decline of high streets ( Mary Portas review), concluded that parking problems were a major factor. Every high street trader will confirm this point. 3) Commuters from outside the borough can exercise common sense & use their local station. There are not sufficient parking spaces available. Like it or not the world has changed. Many families now have 3 or 4 cars, & the council is NOT going to "leave things as they used to be". hursthill
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1:05pm Thu 28 Feb 13

stickmanny says...

Wouldn't a minimum stay of say 5 hours keep the commuter-drivers away?

If there are too many cars for spaces the only way to deal with it is to up the parking charges and limit the total number of spaces. People will use their cars to travel less often, and do more local shopping.
Wouldn't a minimum stay of say 5 hours keep the commuter-drivers away? If there are too many cars for spaces the only way to deal with it is to up the parking charges and limit the total number of spaces. People will use their cars to travel less often, and do more local shopping. stickmanny
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2:19pm Thu 28 Feb 13

dtmgables says...

hursthill wrote:
dtmgables has made several errors that need to be corrected - : 1) The public car parks are owned by EFDC. It is their stated intention that they are for the benefit of local residents & traders, NOT commuters. 2) The independent review set up by the goverment into the decline of high streets ( Mary Portas review), concluded that parking problems were a major factor. Every high street trader will confirm this point. 3) Commuters from outside the borough can exercise common sense & use their local station. There are not sufficient parking spaces available. Like it or not the world has changed. Many families now have 3 or 4 cars, & the council is NOT going to "leave things as they used to be".
Not everyone lives in a village or town that has a local station!

I dont see any signage saying car parks or not for use of commuters, EDFC should limit the maximun stay if they wish to prevent this.

Parking is not an issue for the high street, competitiveness is the problem. People would prefer to drive out of town to a large shopping centre or superstore where everything is in one place and undercover!

Blaming commuters for Epping high street's demise is farcical! Those car parks would be half empty if it wasnt for them....

Car parking spaces are not sufficient because most of Epping is now permit controlled, yet most of these permit spaces lie empty for the majority of each day...
[quote][p][bold]hursthill[/bold] wrote: dtmgables has made several errors that need to be corrected - : 1) The public car parks are owned by EFDC. It is their stated intention that they are for the benefit of local residents & traders, NOT commuters. 2) The independent review set up by the goverment into the decline of high streets ( Mary Portas review), concluded that parking problems were a major factor. Every high street trader will confirm this point. 3) Commuters from outside the borough can exercise common sense & use their local station. There are not sufficient parking spaces available. Like it or not the world has changed. Many families now have 3 or 4 cars, & the council is NOT going to "leave things as they used to be".[/p][/quote]Not everyone lives in a village or town that has a local station! I dont see any signage saying car parks or not for use of commuters, EDFC should limit the maximun stay if they wish to prevent this. Parking is not an issue for the high street, competitiveness is the problem. People would prefer to drive out of town to a large shopping centre or superstore where everything is in one place and undercover! Blaming commuters for Epping high street's demise is farcical! Those car parks would be half empty if it wasnt for them.... Car parking spaces are not sufficient because most of Epping is now permit controlled, yet most of these permit spaces lie empty for the majority of each day... dtmgables
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