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LOUGHTON: Church prepares for Pope's visit


CATHOLICS in Loughton are preparing to take part in an historic visit by the Pope.

Members of St Edmund of Canterbury church in Loughton will be attending two main events of the state visit, which takes place this month.

Church priest Father John Harvey said anticipation of the visit, which is the first from the head of the Catholic Church since 1982, had been growing since it was announced last year.

“I think it's wonderful for the Roman Catholic community,” he said. “People are looking forward to it very much.”

About 90 members of the Traps Hill church will attend a prayer vigil in Hyde Park on September 18.

The following day, 10 people from the congregation will attend a service to begin the process of making Cardinal John Henry Newman a saint, which is known as beatification.

Cardinal Newman, a former Anglican vicar who converted in 1845, is credited with creating a greater understanding of the Catholic Church.

Father Harvey said this part of the visit was very important to Catholics.

“The fact that the beatification is taking place while (the Pope) is here is really historic, because Cardinal John Henry Newman is one of the greatest Catholic converts in our land.”

The Pope, Benedict XVI, will visit the country as head of state for the Vatican city as well as the Church and Father Harvey said this would mark this year's event out from the one in 1982.

"I remember that from the day Pope John Paul II arrived, the sun shone and didn't stop shining," he said. "There was a huge mass in Wembley Stadium and thousands of people attended."

He said that he did not think the present Pope was any less popular than the last one.

"Personally, I think any spiritual leader of a church would capture the imagination, especialy if they're going to come to your country," he added. "I think it's a great honour, regardless of whether you're a Catholic or not."

The Pope's visit will include meetings with the Queen, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, and Prime Minister David Cameron.

Father Harvey said that even members of his congregation who were not attending the events in Hyde Park and Birmingham would be following the visit.

“Every family will get a booklet with all the events, so even if they can't be present, they can follow it on TV,” he added. “I think even if people can't be there, they will very excitedly watch it.

“I am looking forward to it very much and I have been preaching about it, so the community is well aware.”

Comments(8)

Quickexit says...
1:01pm Thu 2 Sep 10

They disinterred Cardinal Newman against his stated wishes (he wanted to remain buried next to Father Ambrose St John who he described as his 'greatest love') in order to cut up his corpse and send his remains across the world as grisly religious artefacts with miracle powers. But he was buried in a wooden coffin, so the Catholic Church had nothing to exhume. I don't see why I have to pay for the visit of a confirmed homophobe and former member of the Hitler Youth who had some role in the cover-up of systematic child sex abuse to come here and preach this sort of nonsense. Too much effort is put on appeasing the religious in this country. If Catholics want him here, they can pay for him.

Morris Hickey says...
3:19pm Thu 2 Sep 10

I notice, Quickexit, that you do not have the guts to express such views in your REAL name. Coward.

Quickexit says...
8:37pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Morris Hickey wrote:
I notice, Quickexit, that you do not have the guts to express such views in your REAL name. Coward.
Would it make any difference to you? I don't know you, so why should it matter? I don't put my name down because I want privacy and I'm entitled to that, particularly when it comes to religious matters which occasionally lead to violence by the more fanatic-minded.

Try dealing with the issue.

Morris Hickey says...
8:44pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Quickexit wrote:
Morris Hickey wrote: I notice, Quickexit, that you do not have the guts to express such views in your REAL name. Coward.
Would it make any difference to you? I don't know you, so why should it matter? I don't put my name down because I want privacy and I'm entitled to that, particularly when it comes to religious matters which occasionally lead to violence by the more fanatic-minded. Try dealing with the issue.
Your "privacy" is a cloak for not accepting personal responsibility for some of your comments that are offensive - whether deliberately so, or not - to some people.

Quickexit says...
9:37pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Morris Hickey wrote:
Quickexit wrote:
Morris Hickey wrote: I notice, Quickexit, that you do not have the guts to express such views in your REAL name. Coward.
Would it make any difference to you? I don't know you, so why should it matter? I don't put my name down because I want privacy and I'm entitled to that, particularly when it comes to religious matters which occasionally lead to violence by the more fanatic-minded. Try dealing with the issue.
Your "privacy" is a cloak for not accepting personal responsibility for some of your comments that are offensive - whether deliberately so, or not - to some people.
I accept personal responsibility for anything that is illegal or litigious, as set down in the terms and conditions of this newspaper. As for the rest, I can say what I like and use whatever name or pseudonym I like - and I will offend, intentionally or not, people's belief systems if I think they are stupid (yes, Catholicism is stupid, although Catholics are as good or bad as the rest of us) as is my right. I've had a bad experience with Islamic fanatics and don't want to repeat the experience with any other religious fanatics. I don't care if you think that is cowardice. Calling me a coward is intended to deflect debate about this visit by a foreign theocrat with some ridiculous and prejudiced beliefs of his own.

Morris Hickey says...
10:04pm Thu 2 Sep 10

Quickexit = bigoted zealot.

Quickexit says...
7:45am Fri 3 Sep 10

Morris Hickey wrote:
Quickexit = bigoted zealot.
How am I bigoted? I would be bigoted if I said prejudiced things about Catholics. I am not, I am criticising a belief that is based on superstition and its own set of prejudices and led by a man whose past conduct and opinions I find distasteful. If this was a bunch of local Tories getting excited that George W Bush was arriving in the UK, I doubt anyone would have a problem with their political opponents criticising them.

But somehow when it comes to religious belief, people are a lot more precious about opposition. Why? Like political ideology, it's just another belief and if the Catholic deity is real and Jesus and Mary are still around, albeit invisible, I am sure that they are strong enough to put up with my criticism of their church. Anyway, according to Catholicism their loving god will ensure that I will burn in hell for eternity because I haven't cannibalised Jesus' flesh and blood, so Catholics should be happy that I will be duly punished for daring to question their faith.

So why the defensiveness? Why did the proto-Catholic Tony Blair devise the thoughtcrime of 'incitement to religious hatred' to protect Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and the rest? Is it not because the religious are insecure about their faith and they know it is a pile of rubbish, but just can't bear to accept their true existence as mortal animals so revert to superstition and grasp at belief in the completely unproven afterlife? When someone knocks it, criticises it, ridicules it, holds it up to reason and examines the morality of its priesthood, the whole basis of religion and all its ritual and gilt-edged statues that cry and drink milk and the miraculous powers of the cadavers and clothing of saints and the ornate iconography and offerings and the endless journeys to pilgrim sites where a prophet flatulated or a drunk fisherman saw a ghost, all of it is completely worthless and does not change the fact that we will die and that will be the end of us.

Public money shouldn't be spent on this nonsense and its exponents. It should be spent on the real world where people get sick, they need education, they need jobs, etc.

My Pen is Huge says...
3:19pm Fri 3 Sep 10

What a waste of money, why do people still believe in these bronze age fables.


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