Elections 2008
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MAYORAL ELECTION LIVE: Boris Johnson wins Mayoral election
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| Boris Johnson who has just been elected to be Mayor of London |
Dominic Gover live at City Hall:
The expected result is confirmed. Boris Johnson is Mayor of London.
23.45
Officials to announce result "in minutes".
23.35
All but one of the constituency results are in and Boris Johnson is ahead on constituencies by seven to six. A declaration is due soon.
23.30
Boris Johnson wins West Central constituency.
23.00
Boris Johnson is favourite to win Havering and Redbridge, pending second preference votes.
Ken Livingstone is in a strong position in Enfield and Haringey, and barring a strong show of second preference votes for Boris, he is looking likely to win in the north London constituency.
21:54
The results for the mayoral ballot in the north east constituency (including Waltham Forest) are in. This includes first preferences only:
BNP 3,778
UKIP 1,396
Green 9,790
Boris Johnson 57,394
Ken Livingstone 96,402
Winston McKenzie 482
English Democrats 820
Brian Paddick 19,641
Christain People's alliance 3,067
21.50
"I think a lot of people will have voted Tory, possibly for the first and only time in their lives, to punish Ken's machine for its cynicism, and Labour generally for its comfy insulation from its roots in the lives of ordinary people. (mdj, E10)
21.10
Tessa Jowell concedes defeat to Boris Johnson.
The minister for London ran Ken Livingstone's election campaign.
Jowell calls for a new culture in the Labour party.
She said: "It remains to be seen whether this result reflects a sea change in power across the country. I hope there is no chat about Gordon Brown"
21.04
The Evening Standard has run a front page stating that Boris is mayor. Speculation is rife as to whether he will, if he wins, have the required two-thirds majority in the London Assembly that the mayor needs to get his budget passed into statute.
20:40
The trickle of media personalities who made themselves available for interview earlier in the evening has dried up. Perhaps they are in their respective party's campaign headaquarters with a flute of champagne, watching the television, like the gathered media here, in the heights of 'The Egg'.
19:52
There is a whisper going around that the BNP are close to winning two seats in the Constituent Assembly. Proportional Representation looks like its working for the extreme right.
19:48
Ken has stretched his lead over Boris in the vote for mayor in Enfield and Haringey. 98 per cent of votes have been counted.
19:28
The latest rumour is that Boris is ahead by 48 per cent to Ken's 41 per cent overall. This means the Conservative candidate is three per cent away from winning the mayoral race straight out.
A candidate requires parity, which is a clear majority of 51 per cent for this to happen.
There would be no need for a run-off if parity is reached by a candidate.
19:10
The constabulary is guarding democracy vigourisly. While the count progresses in the bowels of City Hall, a rag-tag bunch of 10 anti-fascist protesters have been herded into a pen on the walkway by the river Thames. About 40 police officers have formed a ring around the pen's perimater.
A police boat is on the scene too, maybe to prevent the protesters from getting any ideas about requisitioning the docked HMS Belfast. Fat chance.
19.05
87.62 per cent of votes are counted in Enfield and Haringey, and Ken has a narrow lead over Boris. Enfield has flitted between the two throughout the count.
The pollsters say that turnout is high in the constituencies where Boris is performing well. Could it be that apathy does for Ken in the end?
The old Etonion currently holds leads in eight of London's 14 constituencies.
18:54
Some pointless, or perhaps presicent, trivia. Today is the feast day of St Boris in the Bulgarian and Greek orthodox church.
Will his namesake move in mysterious ways? Will he be required to? Or will Ken's army be too strong?
18:47
Result expected at '10pm at the earliest' according to one official.
The reason for the delay is that an extra 1.5m people voted. Altogether, 7.2m papers have to be counted. This means that 2.4m people voted in the election for mayor of London.
17:55
It seems that Ken's lot is so low right now, that even vanquished foes from elections past believe they could chase him out of town tonight.
Steve Norris was beaten by Livingstone twice in the race for mayor, in 2000 and 2004. But the Tory's ex-candidate believes that it would be third time lucky for him.
Mr Norris said: "I would love to run this time because I would have beaten him. But I cannot afford it. I could have done eight years ago."
17:21
We are told that the winner will not be announced now until 10.30pm. So much for the march of technology. Electronic counting was supposed to quicken the process. It may be a typical, traditional election night after all.
Tessa Jowell, the minister for London, seems to be preparing for the worst.
She said: "I've heard that Boris is ahead.
If Ken has not won, London has lost someone special. He has been passionate for the city and has done great things, and that is something I have heard all across London.
"But we are not there yet, and we may be in for a long night.
"There has been a move against the government, and London is not immune to that."
"People in London are worried about the big turbulence and how it will affect them"
I think that in london it has been a contest between two big figures. Although it has been a close contest, we cannot take the influence of the bad night we had last night"
"It's not fair to say that the party is dying. Ken Livingstone has galvanised the party base against the BNP."
16.45
Mr Paddick is doing interviews in the media gallery. He does not have the demeanour of a man preparing for office and appeared irked by some questions. He also did not seem to give much credence to the gossip.
Commenting on the speculation that the race would be between him and Mr Johnson, he said: "That would be a turn up for the books. It is early days yet, but it is clear that a lot of people are voting against the government. The elections so far have been a disaster for Labour. It's not the Tories who have gained from that."
16.45
Mr Paddick is doing interviews in the media gallery. He does not have the demeanour of a man preparing for office and appeared irked by some questions. He also did not seem to give much credence to the gossip.
Commenting on the speculation that the race would be between him and Mr Johnson, he said: "That would be a turn up for the books. It is early days yet, but it is clear that a lot of people are voting against the government. The elections so far have been a disaster for Labour. It's not the Tories who have gained from that."
16.30
The North East constituency is one of the five where he is ahead. He currently holds a strong lead there.
A rumour is racing around the media gallery that the race for mayor will be between Boris and Brian Paddick.
11:40pm Friday 2nd May 2008
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CommentPosted by: mdj, e10 on 9:43pm Fri 2 May 08
I think a lot of people will have voted Tory possibly for the first and only time in their lives, to punish Ken's machine for its lies and cynicism, and Labour generally for its comfy insulation from its roots in the lives of ordinary people.It's always good to see democracy punishing the arrogant: sadly, the whole culture of middleclass cronyism - the consultancy disease, the PFI-ing of public service with no gain in front-line efficiency, is exactly what the Tories will perpetuate. Same trough, different pigs.
I think a lot of people will have voted Tory possibly for the first and only time in their lives, to punish Ken's machine for its lies and cynicism, and Labour generally for its comfy insulation from its roots in the lives of ordinary people.It's always good to see democracy punishing the arrogant: sadly, the whole culture of middleclass cronyism - the consultancy disease, the PFI-ing of public service with no gain in front-line efficiency, is exactly what the Tories will perpetuate. Same trough, different pigs.
Posted by: Beaker, West of london on 11:57pm Fri 2 May 08
I disagree, I think that people have voted for Boris purely because he was the best candidate. He is Bright, Intelligent, understanding and he cares.... and just slightly Bonkers.....
I disagree, I think that people have voted for Boris purely because he was the best candidate. He is Bright, Intelligent, understanding and he cares.... and just slightly Bonkers.....
Posted by: christine tyler, Cornwall on 12:47am Sat 3 May 08
Boris johnson will be a breath of fresh air to the capital. Good luck for the next four years.
Boris johnson will be a breath of fresh air to the capital. Good luck for the next four years.
Posted by: Angry in Barnet on 1:09am Sat 3 May 08
Boris is an idiot. He is the worst person to lead a city like London. He will marginalise people and serve people like him, the privileged few who have no idea what life is like in the real world. He will drive people out of the capital and maybe then house prices will crash. Is that his idea of affordable housing?
Boris is an idiot. He is the worst person to lead a city like London. He will marginalise people and serve people like him, the privileged few who have no idea what life is like in the real world. He will drive people out of the capital and maybe then house prices will crash. Is that his idea of affordable housing?
Posted by: Steve on 2:18am Sat 3 May 08
Superb
Boris may be a bit bonkers. but the man has looked after the residents of Henley brilliantly. hence those not so stupid people re-electing him.
Now he can move on an make a real difference in London. he has an image of bonkers, but the man is very 'switched on'
I'm sure ken will be gutted, whats he got now? Except for that £180,000 'golden parachute' and the next east london or brent parlimentary by-election???
sadly this man will be back, just like the rest of those unpalatable individuals like Mandelson
Superb
Boris may be a bit bonkers. but the man has looked after the residents of Henley brilliantly. hence those not so stupid people re-electing him.
Now he can move on an make a real difference in London. he has an image of bonkers, but the man is very 'switched on'
I'm sure ken will be gutted, whats he got now? Except for that £180,000 'golden parachute' and the next east london or brent parlimentary by-election???
sadly this man will be back, just like the rest of those unpalatable individuals like Mandelson
Posted by: technomist, walthamstow on 2:25am Sat 3 May 08
Spot on mdj. Don't take any notice of our friends above from Cornwall, Barnet and West London. You tell it how it is here in Waltham Forest. The clique running the administation are failing. More and more people are seeing through their dishonesty and inept 'managerialism'.
As for the local pigs at the trough, (of whatever party) we have two years to look at the potential candidates and expose this self-serving clique for what it is. I don't care which party they stand for, we must hold them all accountable. (Even those not in power share some responsibility- for their failing to protect us from these mediocrities.
Lets make sure that only people who live in their wards or can truly represent all the people in them can win. We need people with good ideas put forward in good faith, and willing to uphold honesty and hard-work. The winners at the next election should be the ordinary people of Waltham Forest, not the same-old-same-old bunch of losers failing to run things properly now.
Spot on mdj. Don't take any notice of our friends above from Cornwall, Barnet and West London. You tell it how it is here in Waltham Forest. The clique running the administation are failing. More and more people are seeing through their dishonesty and inept 'managerialism'.
As for the local pigs at the trough, (of whatever party) we have two years to look at the potential candidates and expose this self-serving clique for what it is. I don't care which party they stand for, we must hold them all accountable. (Even those not in power share some responsibility- for their failing to protect us from these mediocrities.
Lets make sure that only people who live in their wards or can truly represent all the people in them can win. We need people with good ideas put forward in good faith, and willing to uphold honesty and hard-work. The winners at the next election should be the ordinary people of Waltham Forest, not the same-old-same-old bunch of losers failing to run things properly now.
Posted by: me khalid, walthamstows on 12:22pm Sat 3 May 08
he lauging the boris becose evry bodys say he idot but now he lauging them face he very clever parson he go to the eatons scool and meybe loked bit crezy but he no what he do and kick backside this livenstones and now showie the brown what hapen he next time. last nite on the tv brown lokeded like gone cry and pratends smile for pepal but very sick parson and he pay prises for no help the poor parson with the tax and the crunching credats
he lauging the boris becose evry bodys say he idot but now he lauging them face he very clever parson he go to the eatons scool and meybe loked bit crezy but he no what he do and kick backside this livenstones and now showie the brown what hapen he next time. last nite on the tv brown lokeded like gone cry and pratends smile for pepal but very sick parson and he pay prises for no help the poor parson with the tax and the crunching credats
Posted by: Jenny, Ilford on 4:43pm Sat 3 May 08
This is going to be a disaster for London. Just wait and see, after 6 months people will be wishing Ken had won a third term.
Boris isn't even a true Londoner, just some Eton-educated toff who isn't really in tune with our city.
This is going to be a disaster for London. Just wait and see, after 6 months people will be wishing Ken had won a third term.
Boris isn't even a true Londoner, just some Eton-educated toff who isn't really in tune with our city.
Posted by: gee on 6:34pm Sat 3 May 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jenny[/bold] wrote:
This is going to be a disaster for London. Just wait and see, after 6 months people will be wishing Ken had won a third term. Boris isn't even a true Londoner, just some Eton-educated toff who isn't really in tune with our city. [/quote] And what are you? Bet you ain't from London. Are you not fed up with that corrupt anti-semetic idiot who likened a reporter who was Jewish to a prison camp guard in Nazi Germany? Who threw a young chap down a flight of stairs at a party and caused him permanant brain damage? Who appointed Lee Jasper to nick hundreds of thousands of pounds? Who has 5 kids by three woman? Who admitted conning Londoners to get the Olympics? Need I go on?[/quote] I agree here's a great website
www.red ken is gone lets party.com
John wrote:
Jenny wrote:
This is going to be a disaster for London. Just wait and see, after 6 months people will be wishing Ken had won a third term. Boris isn't even a true Londoner, just some Eton-educated toff who isn't really in tune with our city.
And what are you? Bet you ain't from London. Are you not fed up with that corrupt anti-semetic idiot who likened a reporter who was Jewish to a prison camp guard in Nazi Germany? Who threw a young chap down a flight of stairs at a party and caused him permanant brain damage? Who appointed Lee Jasper to nick hundreds of thousands of pounds? Who has 5 kids by three woman? Who admitted conning Londoners to get the Olympics? Need I go on?
I agree here's a great website
www.red ken is gone lets party.com
Posted by: Mr Codgers, Snaresbrook on 6:49pm Sat 3 May 08
Good luck Boris!!! Agter the terrible biased treatment by Dimbleby on Question Time the other week you deserve it!!! Well done boy!
Good luck Boris!!! Agter the terrible biased treatment by Dimbleby on Question Time the other week you deserve it!!! Well done boy!
Posted by: Rog T, Mill Hill on 8:29pm Sat 3 May 08
John,
Do you actually know what Ken said to Finegold?
Finegold: Mr Livingstone, Evening Standard. How did tonight go?
Livingstone: How awful for you. Have you thought of having treatment?
Finegold: How did tonight go?
Livingstone: Have you thought of having treatment?
Finegold: Was it a good party? What does it mean for you?
Livingstone: What did you do before? Were you a German war criminal?
Finegold: No, I'm Jewish, I wasn't a German war criminal and I'm actually quite offended by that. So, how did tonight go?
Livingstone: Ah right, well you might be Jewish, but actually you are just like a concentration camp guard, you are just doing it because you are paid to, aren't you?
Finegold: Great, I have you on record for that. So, how was tonight?
Livingstone: It's nothing to do with you because your paper is a load of scumbags and reactionary bigots.
Finegold: I'm a journalist and I'm doing my job. I'm only asking for a comment.
Livingstone: Well, work for a paper that doesn't have a record of supporting fascism.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Ken Livingstone was commenting on the policies of the owners of the Standard and their open support for Fascism in the 1930's.
Haas it occurred to you that Lee Jasper has been charged with nothing and convicted of nothing so you are actually slandering him.
Your comments about Ken's private life say more about you than him and just show what a nasty, narrow minded little man you are.
Finally Ken did not say he conned Londoners. He said he conned the Government into spending the money on the regeneration of the most run down part of London using the Olympics.
Need you go on? No, I suggest you return to under the stone from which you emerged.
John,
Do you actually know what Ken said to Finegold?
Finegold: Mr Livingstone, Evening Standard. How did tonight go?
Livingstone: How awful for you. Have you thought of having treatment?
Finegold: How did tonight go?
Livingstone: Have you thought of having treatment?
Finegold: Was it a good party? What does it mean for you?
Livingstone: What did you do before? Were you a German war criminal?
Finegold: No, I'm Jewish, I wasn't a German war criminal and I'm actually quite offended by that. So, how did tonight go?
Livingstone: Ah right, well you might be Jewish, but actually you are just like a concentration camp guard, you are just doing it because you are paid to, aren't you?
Finegold: Great, I have you on record for that. So, how was tonight?
Livingstone: It's nothing to do with you because your paper is a load of scumbags and reactionary bigots.
Finegold: I'm a journalist and I'm doing my job. I'm only asking for a comment.
Livingstone: Well, work for a paper that doesn't have a record of supporting fascism.
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Ken Livingstone was commenting on the policies of the owners of the Standard and their open support for Fascism in the 1930's.
Haas it occurred to you that Lee Jasper has been charged with nothing and convicted of nothing so you are actually slandering him.
Your comments about Ken's private life say more about you than him and just show what a nasty, narrow minded little man you are.
Finally Ken did not say he conned Londoners. He said he conned the Government into spending the money on the regeneration of the most run down part of London using the Olympics.
Need you go on? No, I suggest you return to under the stone from which you emerged.
Posted by: factoid, chaos city on 9:58pm Sat 3 May 08
A sad day for our London / Venezuela partnership, Hehe!
Will Ken's tube adviser who say's he doesn't do anything still get his £2million?
Lee Jasper has not broken the law. Ken Livingston gave him the money to do what he liked with it. And he did!
Lets hope Boris can halt london's criminal friendly, drug friendly, gang friendly, chav friendly descent into chaos!
A sad day for our London / Venezuela partnership, Hehe!
Will Ken's tube adviser who say's he doesn't do anything still get his £2million?
Lee Jasper has not broken the law. Ken Livingston gave him the money to do what he liked with it. And he did!
Lets hope Boris can halt london's criminal friendly, drug friendly, gang friendly, chav friendly descent into chaos!
Posted by: redman, E11 on 11:59pm Sat 3 May 08
Good Ken is out, it is about time. His first term was ok, second took the ####. Given a third, he would have slaughtered poor Londoners.
Jenny you are just discriminating Boris becuase he went to Eton - so what!
'Angry in Barnet' you are clueless, many ppl have left London because of ken, he made house prices rise and made it unliveable by excessive council tax rises for unjustified services that were over the top. Plus public transport that went up, stupid trips around the world to promote London.
Good Ken is out, it is about time. His first term was ok, second took the ####. Given a third, he would have slaughtered poor Londoners.
Jenny you are just discriminating Boris becuase he went to Eton - so what!
'Angry in Barnet' you are clueless, many ppl have left London because of ken, he made house prices rise and made it unliveable by excessive council tax rises for unjustified services that were over the top. Plus public transport that went up, stupid trips around the world to promote London.
Posted by: Mr Khalid, Walthamstow on 10:47am Sun 4 May 08
Ken Livingstone is a true Londoner, one of the people.
5 kids with 3 different women. With standard like that need I say more.
Ken Livingstone is a true Londoner, one of the people.
5 kids with 3 different women. With standard like that need I say more.
Posted by: Johnny McCormack, Barkingside on 5:02pm Sun 4 May 08
Congratulations to the BNP for gaining a seat on the London Assembly [and beating the Lib Dems into 4th place in the Havering and Redbridge London wide votes]. Hopefully we will now hear about the forgotten "minority" the indigenous people of this island. It is not racist to ask that British culture is precedent above the often devisive "multi-culturalism".
Congratulations to the BNP for gaining a seat on the London Assembly . Hopefully we will now hear about the forgotten "minority" the indigenous people of this island. It is not racist to ask that British culture is precedent above the often devisive "multi-culturalism".
Posted by: Paul, Walthamstow on 5:39pm Sun 4 May 08
Oh dear 'forgotten minority' indeed! The working class - black, white and Asian - have been deserted by the main parties and the BNP are just deluding themselves and others if they think that their fascism and racism provide any solution. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - people voted for Hitler.
Oh dear 'forgotten minority' indeed! The working class - black, white and Asian - have been deserted by the main parties and the BNP are just deluding themselves and others if they think that their fascism and racism provide any solution. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - people voted for Hitler.
Posted by: Paul, Walthamstow on 5:43pm Sun 4 May 08
Doris will be bad news for London. He neither understands or appreciates its diversity or the poverty gap that exists.
Still, I'm sure that the Evening Standard will treat him in the same way as they did Ken Livingstone. The pathetic attempts to smear him as anti semetic may have fooled many, and they've been hoodwinked again into voting a for an old Etonian clown.
Doris will be bad news for London. He neither understands or appreciates its diversity or the poverty gap that exists.
Still, I'm sure that the Evening Standard will treat him in the same way as they did Ken Livingstone. The pathetic attempts to smear him as anti semetic may have fooled many, and they've been hoodwinked again into voting a for an old Etonian clown.
Posted by: Paula Warren, Epping on 7:42pm Sun 4 May 08
I agree with Johnny, the unprecedented immigration we have had is bad for Britain. Who in Britain voted for "multi-culturalism" - no-one, it was imposed on us by the corrupt old gang parties. Real Londoners voted for change on Thursday, hopefully this is the start. An end to political correctness, the islamification of Britain and housing for locals first.
I agree with Johnny, the unprecedented immigration we have had is bad for Britain. Who in Britain voted for "multi-culturalism" - no-one, it was imposed on us by the corrupt old gang parties. Real Londoners voted for change on Thursday, hopefully this is the start. An end to political correctness, the islamification of Britain and housing for locals first.
Posted by: Sean O'Callaghan, Theydon Bois on 7:45pm Sun 4 May 08
Yeah, who voted to let mosques be built everywhere? This is a Christian country. Over 70% at the last census. Christianity was the bedrock of our civilisation and Empire. I couldn't build a Church in Saudi Arabia or wear a cross.
Yeah, who voted to let mosques be built everywhere? This is a Christian country. Over 70% at the last census. Christianity was the bedrock of our civilisation and Empire. I couldn't build a Church in Saudi Arabia or wear a cross.
Posted by: Diane Degale, south London on 8:56pm Sun 4 May 08
As a working class black womanl, sorry to say Boris has not got a clue about us and the rich shall be taking from the poor again[quote]quote[/quote] [bold]bold[/bold]
As a working class black womanl, sorry to say Boris has not got a clue about us and the rich shall be taking from the poor again
quote
Posted by: Julie Smith, Walthamstow on 9:18pm Sun 4 May 08
What sort of 'clue' does he need to know about you? Surely, he knows about the issues that affect everyone, are we not all equal? Housing, Crime, Jobs affect us all equally.
What sort of 'clue' does he need to know about you? Surely, he knows about the issues that affect everyone, are we not all equal? Housing, Crime, Jobs affect us all equally.
Posted by: Alan Griffiths, Forest Gate, LONDON on 7:48am Mon 5 May 08
What was civilised about the British Empire, built on slavery and dissolution of the monasteries?
Who are "the indigenous people of these islands"? If England is given back to the Welsh, can I stay?
What was civilised about the British Empire, built on slavery and dissolution of the monasteries?
Who are "the indigenous people of these islands"? If England is given back to the Welsh, can I stay?
Posted by: c may, biggin hill on 11:00am Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Rog T[/bold] wrote:
John, Do you actually know what Ken said to Finegold? Finegold: Mr Livingstone, Evening Standard. How did tonight go? Livingstone: How awful for you. Have you thought of having treatment? Finegold: How did tonight go? Livingstone: Have you thought of having treatment? Finegold: Was it a good party? What does it mean for you? Livingstone: What did you do before? Were you a German war criminal? Finegold: No, I'm Jewish, I wasn't a German war criminal and I'm actually quite offended by that. So, how did tonight go? Livingstone: Ah right, well you might be Jewish, but actually you are just like a concentration camp guard, you are just doing it because you are paid to, aren't you? Finegold: Great, I have you on record for that. So, how was tonight? Livingstone: It's nothing to do with you because your paper is a load of scumbags and reactionary bigots. Finegold: I'm a journalist and I'm doing my job. I'm only asking for a comment. Livingstone: Well, work for a paper that doesn't have a record of supporting fascism. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Ken Livingstone was commenting on the policies of the owners of the Standard and their open support for Fascism in the 1930's. Haas it occurred to you that Lee Jasper has been charged with nothing and convicted of nothing so you are actually slandering him. Your comments about Ken's private life say more about you than him and just show what a nasty, narrow minded little man you are. Finally Ken did not say he conned Londoners. He said he conned the Government into spending the money on the regeneration of the most run down part of London using the Olympics. Need you go on? No, I suggest you return to under the stone from which you emerged.[/quote] well said i totaly agree over 800 000 voted for ken me included so boris knows a lot of people were were happy with ken
Rog T wrote:
John, Do you actually know what Ken said to Finegold? Finegold: Mr Livingstone, Evening Standard. How did tonight go? Livingstone: How awful for you. Have you thought of having treatment? Finegold: How did tonight go? Livingstone: Have you thought of having treatment? Finegold: Was it a good party? What does it mean for you? Livingstone: What did you do before? Were you a German war criminal? Finegold: No, I'm Jewish, I wasn't a German war criminal and I'm actually quite offended by that. So, how did tonight go? Livingstone: Ah right, well you might be Jewish, but actually you are just like a concentration camp guard, you are just doing it because you are paid to, aren't you? Finegold: Great, I have you on record for that. So, how was tonight? Livingstone: It's nothing to do with you because your paper is a load of scumbags and reactionary bigots. Finegold: I'm a journalist and I'm doing my job. I'm only asking for a comment. Livingstone: Well, work for a paper that doesn't have a record of supporting fascism. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Ken Livingstone was commenting on the policies of the owners of the Standard and their open support for Fascism in the 1930's. Haas it occurred to you that Lee Jasper has been charged with nothing and convicted of nothing so you are actually slandering him. Your comments about Ken's private life say more about you than him and just show what a nasty, narrow minded little man you are. Finally Ken did not say he conned Londoners. He said he conned the Government into spending the money on the regeneration of the most run down part of London using the Olympics. Need you go on? No, I suggest you return to under the stone from which you emerged.
well said i totaly agree over 800 000 voted for ken me included so boris knows a lot of people were were happy with ken
Posted by: Jody Madigan, Leyton on 11:56am Mon 5 May 08
But for more were unhappy with Red Ken, he's gone now to take up gardening or fishing.
But for more were unhappy with Red Ken, he's gone now to take up gardening or fishing.
Posted by: Martin, Walthamstow on 5:27pm Mon 5 May 08
Anyone who thinks this plonker is the answer to London`s many ills is clearly living in cloud cuckoo land.
Anyone who thinks this plonker is the answer to London`s many ills is clearly living in cloud cuckoo land.
Posted by: Tony George, Barkingside on 8:52pm Mon 5 May 08
He might not be, but he's better than Red Ken who promotes his friends. The alleged corruption with the LDA and lee Jasper to black groups has yet to be cleared up.
He might not be, but he's better than Red Ken who promotes his friends. The alleged corruption with the LDA and lee Jasper to black groups has yet to be cleared up.
Posted by: Andrew Peterson, Whalthamstow on 8:54pm Mon 5 May 08
I am a Labour voter. But, I was disgusted at how Ken and the Labour Party played the race card. They pretty much tried to imply that Boris was a racist and would undermine race relations. What utter rot. The man is half Turkish for petes sake. Ken is a wily old politician. I expected better from him.
I am a Labour voter. But, I was disgusted at how Ken and the Labour Party played the race card. They pretty much tried to imply that Boris was a racist and would undermine race relations. What utter rot. The man is half Turkish for petes sake. Ken is a wily old politician. I expected better from him.
Posted by: Martin, Walthamstow on 8:56pm Mon 5 May 08
Ahh yes, say what you will about the Tories but you can never accuse them of cronyism, nepotism or corruption, right?
Gimme a break...
Ahh yes, say what you will about the Tories but you can never accuse them of cronyism, nepotism or corruption, right?
Gimme a break...
Posted by: Tony George, Barkingside on 8:58pm Mon 5 May 08
I can't give you a break Marting, but what about a kit kat?! No but on a serious note, all of the old gang parties of Lab, Lib, and Tory have all showed there corrupt. The public dosen't trust any of them. The fact is though, on this occasion the people of London were fed up with Ken and his crop of cronies. They voted for change, and change is what they got. We can't judge the man until he has actually performed. Until then, everything else is conjecture or speculation.
I can't give you a break Marting, but what about a kit kat?! No but on a serious note, all of the old gang parties of Lab, Lib, and Tory have all showed there corrupt. The public dosen't trust any of them. The fact is though, on this occasion the people of London were fed up with Ken and his crop of cronies. They voted for change, and change is what they got. We can't judge the man until he has actually performed. Until then, everything else is conjecture or speculation.
Posted by: Vicki Frampton, Epping on 9:01pm Mon 5 May 08
At least we won't have to hear Ken's awful nasal tones anymore. Give the man a tune!
At least we won't have to hear Ken's awful nasal tones anymore. Give the man a tune!
Posted by: redman, E11 on 9:18pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Diane Degale[/bold] wrote:
As a working class black womanl, sorry to say Boris has not got a clue about us and the rich shall be taking from the poor again[quote]quote[/quote] [bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Has nothing to do with that, so what makes you think Ken does. Load of rubbish! I cant stand this stupid ignorant talk like this. Even though Ken would tax you till you sick wit bills your still foolish enough to vote for the fool.
I AM GLAD HE LOST
Diane Degale wrote:
As a working class black womanl, sorry to say Boris has not got a clue about us and the rich shall be taking from the poor againquote
Has nothing to do with that, so what makes you think Ken does. Load of rubbish! I cant stand this stupid ignorant talk like this. Even though Ken would tax you till you sick wit bills your still foolish enough to vote for the fool.
I AM GLAD HE LOST
Posted by: CG, Chingford on 12:23pm Tue 6 May 08
The pressure in now on Boris to prove he isnt actually a media celebrity and jolly old buffon. He has to prove he has real commitment to London and will knuckle down to the job.
I have my doubts he is capable and he may well have been 'promoted beyond his capabilities'.
This man has to represent our World City globally, he had better not let us down.
The pressure in now on Boris to prove he isnt actually a media celebrity and jolly old buffon. He has to prove he has real commitment to London and will knuckle down to the job.
I have my doubts he is capable and he may well have been 'promoted beyond his capabilities'.
This man has to represent our World City globally, he had better not let us down.
Posted by: Fred Dinby, Walthamstow on 2:16pm Tue 6 May 08
I think we over do the job. The civil servants in the GLA, TFL, LDA, Olympica Delivery Authority are all the same. Boris will simply be the face of London. His special advisers and civil servants will do the nuts and bolts.
I think we over do the job. The civil servants in the GLA, TFL, LDA, Olympica Delivery Authority are all the same. Boris will simply be the face of London. His special advisers and civil servants will do the nuts and bolts.
Posted by: Paul, Walthamstow on 4:21pm Tue 6 May 08
Boris Doris Johnson won it with the help of the Standard and anti-congestion charge fundamentalists.
He will be out of his depth trying to run London. He neither understands or cares about the diversity and poverty gap that exists.
Boris Doris Johnson won it with the help of the Standard and anti-congestion charge fundamentalists.
He will be out of his depth trying to run London. He neither understands or cares about the diversity and poverty gap that exists.
Posted by: Jackie Golding, Wanstead on 5:04pm Tue 6 May 08
Who cares about "diversity". All he needs to do is tackle crime, housing, and transport. That affects all Londoners equally. Livingstone went on too much about diversity, hence he got the boot.
Who cares about "diversity". All he needs to do is tackle crime, housing, and transport. That affects all Londoners equally. Livingstone went on too much about diversity, hence he got the boot.
Posted by: Fed Up, LBB on 9:28am Wed 7 May 08
Be careful what you wish for.
Be careful what you wish for.
Posted by: John, E10 on 1:19pm Wed 7 May 08
I am more concerned that there seems to be a storm brewing over the BNP elected member of the Assembly. It has been said that some of the City Hall staff will refuse to work with him, and that this attitude will be supported by the other Members of the Assembly. What a disgrace!! And I say that as a Labour voter!
If this is allowed to continue, what we will have is a situation where a few people in City Hall - some of whom are unelected - are able to effectively disenfranchise the 50,000-or-so people who voted for this person. NOBODY should EVER have this right!
This not only sets a very dangerous precedent, but also undermines the very fabric of our democracy. If we are indeed serious about upholding the principle of democracy in this country, then we MUST have a policy of Zero Tolerance of such nonsence that is currently being spouted in City Hall.
Any staff member refusing legitimate work with a democratically elected member of the London Assembly should be SACKED - as would happen to those of us in our own day-jobs if we refused legitimate work. Any Assembly Member supporting such action should be removed from office forthwith. If the only way they can deal with electoral disappointment is by throwing their toys out of the pram, they are perhaps not fit for such office in any case.
If you don't like someone who has been elected, campaign harder aginst them next time. Do not attempt to take your feelings out on a section of the electorate who did not vote as YOU wanted them to!
I am more concerned that there seems to be a storm brewing over the BNP elected member of the Assembly. It has been said that some of the City Hall staff will refuse to work with him, and that this attitude will be supported by the other Members of the Assembly. What a disgrace!! And I say that as a Labour voter!
If this is allowed to continue, what we will have is a situation where a few people in City Hall - some of whom are unelected - are able to effectively disenfranchise the 50,000-or-so people who voted for this person. NOBODY should EVER have this right!
This not only sets a very dangerous precedent, but also undermines the very fabric of our democracy. If we are indeed serious about upholding the principle of democracy in this country, then we MUST have a policy of Zero Tolerance of such nonsence that is currently being spouted in City Hall.
Any staff member refusing legitimate work with a democratically elected member of the London Assembly should be SACKED - as would happen to those of us in our own day-jobs if we refused legitimate work. Any Assembly Member supporting such action should be removed from office forthwith. If the only way they can deal with electoral disappointment is by throwing their toys out of the pram, they are perhaps not fit for such office in any case.
If you don't like someone who has been elected, campaign harder aginst them next time. Do not attempt to take your feelings out on a section of the electorate who did not vote as YOU wanted them to!
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