Ten things you may not know about Waltham Forest

East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Ten things you may not know about Waltham Forest Ten things you may not know about Waltham Forest

TEN INTERESTING FACTS YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT WALTHAM FOREST

1) Roman remains have been found scattered around the borough, proving it was a significant area of Roman occupation. Finds in the Leyton area suggest a Roman settlement. A Roman road probably ran north from London on the line of Leytonstone High Road where fragments of fire cracked flint have been recovered during archaeological digs.

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(Roman chariot races reproduced at the Epping Forest Festival)

 

2) Waltham Forest is, or was, home to a number of bands which have found success including Iron Maiden, East 17 and Blazin' Squad. Primal Scream’s first single Loaded, produced by DJ Andrew Weatherall, was recorded at Bark! studios in Walthamstow. E17 has also been home to indie band Hefner and Current 93’s David Tibet.

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(Owner Brian O'Shaughnesy at Bark! studio)


3) Despite Leyton Orient being the only professional football club in the borough, neighbours Leyton FC was the first to be founded in 1868, and was the second oldest club in Greater London, after Cray Wanderers, until January 2011 when it went into liquidation.

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(Leyton FC, in white, play Cheshunt in 2010)

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4) The Bremer, Britain’s first four-wheeled car powered by an internal combustion engine, was built by plumber Frederick Bremer in his small workshop in Connaught Road, Walthamstow, in the 1890s. An example can be seen today at Vestry House Museum. 

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(A drawing of the Bremer)

5) The flight of the first all-British-built aircraft flown by a British pilot was on Walthamstow Marshes in 1909. Edwin Alliot Verdon Roe built a tri-plane underneath the railway arches on Walthamstow Marshes which he flew himself.

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(Eric Verdon Roe with a replica of his grandfather's famous tri-plane)

 

6) Two ply toilet tissue was invented at a paper mill just off Blackhorse Lane in Walthamstow. The name Andrex originated with the street name where the mill was located: St Andrew’s Road.  

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(An early advert for Andrex)

 

7) The London Motor Omnibus Company, established in 1905 in Hookers Lane, Walthamstow, later became the Associated Equipment Company Limited (AEC) – the main builders of London buses until 1979. AEC built the iconic Routemaster buses, some of which are still used in London today, which are the basis of the design for new TfL buses being introduced across London today.

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(A routemaster driven by Terry Grant at a vintage bus celebration)


8) The designer of the Concorde was born in Highams Park. Sir George Edwards studied at Walthamstow Technical Institute Engineering and Trade School.

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9) Sir Jonathan Ive, the designer of the iPod, grew up in Chingford and attended Chingford Foundation School. He is now Senior Vice President of Design at Apple. He was knighted last year.

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(Jonathan Ive designed the iPod)


10) Baroness Scotland of Asthal, who became the first female Attorney General since the office was created in 1315 when she was appointed in 2007, grew up in Walthamstow and attended Walthamstow School for Girls.

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(Baroness Scotland returns to Walthamstow)

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In 1808 the British Copper Company (BCC) purchased the "Oyl Mill" on the river Lea and began to produce copper Walthamstow pennies and half-pennies.

The copper was smelted in Landore near Swansea in south Wales, rolled into thin sheets and sent to the BCC "Coppermill" and elsewhere in the UK to be stamped into coins.

The coins were used as currency in Walthamstow and elsewhere for more than a century. Remaining coins are highly collectable and turn up for sale as far away as Australia.

The building can still be found at the end of Coppermill Lane.

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Stuart Freeborn, born in Leytonstone in 1914, created the make-up for all the characters in the Star Wars Trilogy, incluing Chewbacca and Yoda, whose face was partly based on his own and Albert Einstein.

He was also in charge of the creation of the Jaba the Hutt puppet.

Our man Freeborn was also the make-up artist on Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece 2001: A Space Odyssey and created the humans/apes characters for the iconic Dawn of Man sequence.

Freeborn also worked on Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove and other films featuring Peter Sellers - Dude! 

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Cornelius Cardew, avant-garde music theorist, experimental composer and left-wing activist, lived and died in Leyton.

Cardew was an early member of free improv unit AMM in the 1960s and went on to become a pioneering composer in his own right.

He created a number of graphic scores, an alternative to traditional musical notation, which promoted freedom of interpretation.

He was killed by a hit and run driver in, I think, High Road, Leyton in May 1982 as he walked back from Stratford. The driver was never found and there are a number of conspiracy theories about his death.

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(A cornelius Cardew score)

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4:46pm Mon 17 Feb 14

sahw says...

In 1808 the British Copper Company (BCC) purchased the "Oyl Mill" on the river Lea and began to produce copper Walthamstow pennies and half-pennies.

The copper was smelted in Landore near Swansea in south Wales, rolled into thin sheets and sent to the BCC "Coppermill" and elsewhere in the UK to be stamped into coins.

The coins were used as currency in Walthamstow and elsewhere for more than a century. Remaining coins are highly collectable and turn up for sale as far away as Australia.

The building can still be found at the end of Coppermill Lane.
In 1808 the British Copper Company (BCC) purchased the "Oyl Mill" on the river Lea and began to produce copper Walthamstow pennies and half-pennies. The copper was smelted in Landore near Swansea in south Wales, rolled into thin sheets and sent to the BCC "Coppermill" and elsewhere in the UK to be stamped into coins. The coins were used as currency in Walthamstow and elsewhere for more than a century. Remaining coins are highly collectable and turn up for sale as far away as Australia. The building can still be found at the end of Coppermill Lane. sahw
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9:04pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

I have some points:

1. How strange that with two of the greatest influences of the IPod and Concorde were educated at great Technical Colleges, since folded by Labour dominance.

2. How about Alfred Hithcock? Although born in Leytonstone Essex had a studio wher he made films in and around the Hitchcock Hotel and Whipps Cross Roundabout which I believe was sequestrated by the Military as a TA Centre.

3. John Lills was born in the Borough I think in the village of Walthamstow and went to Leyton Grammar which was done away with by Labour who made rubbish comprehensives.

4. Bootsy and Snudge was born in the Borough

5. Derek Jaobsby was born in the Borough and went to the same school as John Lills.

6. The famous Leyton Team was ruined by a fraudulent individual who defrauded the Inland Revenue in a 16 million pound VAT fraud which made the Club go into the liquidation and went to gaol.

7. I did not know that Andrex was invented in the borough and it is annoying as at school, everyone had the cheapest shiny loo paper which these days would have been against Human Rights. In fact we had a dictator of a teacher who after permitting one to leave class to visit the cold damp toilets in the playground (also against human rights these days) use to issue you with three sheets all titled ' Now Wash Your Hands'. After much protest he would shout 'Three sheets is ample boy, one up, one down, and one to shine'.

8. There was a fantastic Cinema in Walthamstow , the Granada, left to go to a Church Ownership by the Local Labour Council.

9. The famous Dog Track 'The Stow' was permitted to be closed and sold under the nose of the local Labour Council.

10. The famous Lido at Whipps Cross was closed down under Labour in the 1980's as was the Larkswood Lido to be replaced by a short live Fanterseas World costing millions that had a wave machine. The only thing that was waving was the millions of pounds goodbye.
I have some points: 1. How strange that with two of the greatest influences of the IPod and Concorde were educated at great Technical Colleges, since folded by Labour dominance. 2. How about Alfred Hithcock? Although born in Leytonstone Essex had a studio wher he made films in and around the Hitchcock Hotel and Whipps Cross Roundabout which I believe was sequestrated by the Military as a TA Centre. 3. John Lills was born in the Borough I think in the village of Walthamstow and went to Leyton Grammar which was done away with by Labour who made rubbish comprehensives. 4. Bootsy and Snudge was born in the Borough 5. Derek Jaobsby was born in the Borough and went to the same school as John Lills. 6. The famous Leyton Team was ruined by a fraudulent individual who defrauded the Inland Revenue in a 16 million pound VAT fraud which made the Club go into the liquidation and went to gaol. 7. I did not know that Andrex was invented in the borough and it is annoying as at school, everyone had the cheapest shiny loo paper which these days would have been against Human Rights. In fact we had a dictator of a teacher who after permitting one to leave class to visit the cold damp toilets in the playground (also against human rights these days) use to issue you with three sheets all titled ' Now Wash Your Hands'. After much protest he would shout 'Three sheets is ample boy, one up, one down, and one to shine'. 8. There was a fantastic Cinema in Walthamstow , the Granada, left to go to a Church Ownership by the Local Labour Council. 9. The famous Dog Track 'The Stow' was permitted to be closed and sold under the nose of the local Labour Council. 10. The famous Lido at Whipps Cross was closed down under Labour in the 1980's as was the Larkswood Lido to be replaced by a short live Fanterseas World costing millions that had a wave machine. The only thing that was waving was the millions of pounds goodbye. Villagecranberry
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9:23pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Helen, Walthamstow says...

Oh dear, cornbeefur, an opportunity for you to wheel out your usual mangled rubbish about Hitchcock, John Lill, Derek Jacobi and Alfie Bass and Bill Fraser (Bootsy and Smudge) - the latter two of of whom were neither born nor educated here.
Oh dear, cornbeefur, an opportunity for you to wheel out your usual mangled rubbish about Hitchcock, John Lill, Derek Jacobi and Alfie Bass and Bill Fraser (Bootsy and Smudge) - the latter two of of whom were neither born nor educated here. Helen, Walthamstow
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9:49pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

Helen, Walthamstow wrote:
Oh dear, cornbeefur, an opportunity for you to wheel out your usual mangled rubbish about Hitchcock, John Lill, Derek Jacobi and Alfie Bass and Bill Fraser (Bootsy and Smudge) - the latter two of of whom were neither born nor educated here.
It is Snudge Helen, what is rubbish about the great sons of the Borough?
[quote][p][bold]Helen, Walthamstow[/bold] wrote: Oh dear, cornbeefur, an opportunity for you to wheel out your usual mangled rubbish about Hitchcock, John Lill, Derek Jacobi and Alfie Bass and Bill Fraser (Bootsy and Smudge) - the latter two of of whom were neither born nor educated here.[/p][/quote]It is Snudge Helen, what is rubbish about the great sons of the Borough? Villagecranberry
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10:26pm Mon 17 Feb 14

Villagecranberry says...

As I play the piano I also know that Bobby Crush was born locally I think probably at Whipps Cross where Sir David Beckham soon to be was born. I think Bob lived near Leyton High Road and nearby also lived the actress who got hit in the face by Milly in The very famous TV series 'This Life' about a group of house sharers who were all studying to be Barrister of The Law except one called Eggs who wanted to be an author. Also, one of the Iron Maiden group was born here, John Drinkwater the famous Playright, And many more all of who have brought vibrancy to the area over the years, the area can be good again if the council put the history of the Borough first for the benefit of future generations?.
As I play the piano I also know that Bobby Crush was born locally I think probably at Whipps Cross where Sir David Beckham soon to be was born. I think Bob lived near Leyton High Road and nearby also lived the actress who got hit in the face by Milly in The very famous TV series 'This Life' about a group of house sharers who were all studying to be Barrister of The Law except one called Eggs who wanted to be an author. Also, one of the Iron Maiden group was born here, John Drinkwater the famous Playright, And many more all of who have brought vibrancy to the area over the years, the area can be good again if the council put the history of the Borough first for the benefit of future generations?. Villagecranberry
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11:40am Thu 20 Feb 14

snacker says...

Villagecranberry wrote:
I have some points:

1. How strange that with two of the greatest influences of the IPod and Concorde were educated at great Technical Colleges, since folded by Labour dominance.

2. How about Alfred Hithcock? Although born in Leytonstone Essex had a studio wher he made films in and around the Hitchcock Hotel and Whipps Cross Roundabout which I believe was sequestrated by the Military as a TA Centre.

3. John Lills was born in the Borough I think in the village of Walthamstow and went to Leyton Grammar which was done away with by Labour who made rubbish comprehensives.

4. Bootsy and Snudge was born in the Borough

5. Derek Jaobsby was born in the Borough and went to the same school as John Lills.

6. The famous Leyton Team was ruined by a fraudulent individual who defrauded the Inland Revenue in a 16 million pound VAT fraud which made the Club go into the liquidation and went to gaol.

7. I did not know that Andrex was invented in the borough and it is annoying as at school, everyone had the cheapest shiny loo paper which these days would have been against Human Rights. In fact we had a dictator of a teacher who after permitting one to leave class to visit the cold damp toilets in the playground (also against human rights these days) use to issue you with three sheets all titled ' Now Wash Your Hands'. After much protest he would shout 'Three sheets is ample boy, one up, one down, and one to shine'.

8. There was a fantastic Cinema in Walthamstow , the Granada, left to go to a Church Ownership by the Local Labour Council.

9. The famous Dog Track 'The Stow' was permitted to be closed and sold under the nose of the local Labour Council.

10. The famous Lido at Whipps Cross was closed down under Labour in the 1980's as was the Larkswood Lido to be replaced by a short live Fanterseas World costing millions that had a wave machine. The only thing that was waving was the millions of pounds goodbye.
Yaaaawnbeefer again.
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote: I have some points: 1. How strange that with two of the greatest influences of the IPod and Concorde were educated at great Technical Colleges, since folded by Labour dominance. 2. How about Alfred Hithcock? Although born in Leytonstone Essex had a studio wher he made films in and around the Hitchcock Hotel and Whipps Cross Roundabout which I believe was sequestrated by the Military as a TA Centre. 3. John Lills was born in the Borough I think in the village of Walthamstow and went to Leyton Grammar which was done away with by Labour who made rubbish comprehensives. 4. Bootsy and Snudge was born in the Borough 5. Derek Jaobsby was born in the Borough and went to the same school as John Lills. 6. The famous Leyton Team was ruined by a fraudulent individual who defrauded the Inland Revenue in a 16 million pound VAT fraud which made the Club go into the liquidation and went to gaol. 7. I did not know that Andrex was invented in the borough and it is annoying as at school, everyone had the cheapest shiny loo paper which these days would have been against Human Rights. In fact we had a dictator of a teacher who after permitting one to leave class to visit the cold damp toilets in the playground (also against human rights these days) use to issue you with three sheets all titled ' Now Wash Your Hands'. After much protest he would shout 'Three sheets is ample boy, one up, one down, and one to shine'. 8. There was a fantastic Cinema in Walthamstow , the Granada, left to go to a Church Ownership by the Local Labour Council. 9. The famous Dog Track 'The Stow' was permitted to be closed and sold under the nose of the local Labour Council. 10. The famous Lido at Whipps Cross was closed down under Labour in the 1980's as was the Larkswood Lido to be replaced by a short live Fanterseas World costing millions that had a wave machine. The only thing that was waving was the millions of pounds goodbye.[/p][/quote]Yaaaawnbeefer again. snacker
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