Nascut Romanian fair in Woodford Bridge aims to give people a positive glimpse of Romanian culture

Tasty Romanian treats on offer at Saturday's fair in St Paul's Church, Woodford Bridge

Tasty Romanian treats on offer at Saturday's fair in St Paul's Church, Woodford Bridge

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A Woodford Green woman has made it her mission to challenge stereotypes of her fellow Romanians.

Madeline Bulgaru, 27, lives with her partner and their baby in Chigwell Road.

The trained veterinary assistant has lived in Britain since 2010 and has set up Nascut in UK, a support group for Romanian people which she also hopes will dispel a few myths.

Last Saturday she organised a Spring Fair at St Paul’s Church in Woodford Bridge to promote Romanian culture.

She said: “People think all Romanians are burglars or beggars, but it’s not true and I want to show English people that.

“The main purpose of Saturday’s event was to show the positive side of Romanian culture, because all we ever seem to hear is how bad Romanian people are.”

Warnings that Britain could be flooded with Romanian migrants when the EU lifts restrictions in 2014 have been splashed across the national newspapers in recent weeks.

Think tank, Migration Watch, predicts about 50,000 people from Romania and Bulgaria will come to Britain when the new rules come in.

But Miss Bulgaru says she would be surprised if the numbers are anywhere near those levels.

She said: “The average wage in Romania is £100 a month. It is just too expensive for that many people to get over here.

“It just seems to be another way to make people scared. They think we are all here to live on benefits, but it isn’t true. Britain is not the heaven that people say it is for immigrants.

“My partner and I don’t claim benefit. We work hard and pay taxes and we are in privately rented accommodation.”

Through Nascut, Miss Bulgaru hopes to be able to offer Romanian people advice on issues including education and housing.

Fellow Romanian Alina Gopaul, 31,lives in Roding Lane North.

She runs a Romanian restaurant in Edmonton and cooked up some traditional Romanian food for Saturday’s fair.

She said: “I have been here for 16 years and worked extremely hard to build up my business.

“The vast majority of Romanian people are very hard working and have a positive contribution to make to this country.

“On Saturday I was inviting British people in to try some of our food and talk to us.

“There is so much negative publicity about Romanian people out there. We just want to show that we are not like the stereotypes you read about in your papers.”

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9:57am Tue 19 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

tales like this who operated near to her make it hard on the law Abiding:

http://www.guardian-
series.co.uk/news/rb
news/10236703.Railwa
y_cable_thief_jailed
_for_three_years/
tales like this who operated near to her make it hard on the law Abiding: http://www.guardian- series.co.uk/news/rb news/10236703.Railwa y_cable_thief_jailed _for_three_years/ Cornbeefur
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2:07pm Tue 19 Feb 13

G_Whiz says...

Good on her! But It's not us she should be telling, but other Romanians. Reputations are earned easily.

Doesn't help either when official stats say 90% of cashpoint crime and 60% of pickpocket cases are by Romanians.

It's a shame that the truth is never politically correct. The only way to deal with all our problems is to admit them and face them head on. tip toeing around them will never, ever solve a thing.

This Europe thing seems such a one way street sometimes. - Everyone seems to benefit but us. Am i just being paranoid? We keep being told we lack housing, jobs, money etc - the next we are flinging our doors open. Confused?!?!
Good on her! But It's not us she should be telling, but other Romanians. Reputations are earned easily. Doesn't help either when official stats say 90% of cashpoint crime and 60% of pickpocket cases are by Romanians. It's a shame that the truth is never politically correct. The only way to deal with all our problems is to admit them and face them head on. tip toeing around them will never, ever solve a thing. This Europe thing seems such a one way street sometimes. - Everyone seems to benefit but us. Am i just being paranoid? We keep being told we lack housing, jobs, money etc - the next we are flinging our doors open. Confused?!?! G_Whiz
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2:11pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

G_Whiz wrote:
Good on her! But It's not us she should be telling, but other Romanians. Reputations are earned easily.

Doesn't help either when official stats say 90% of cashpoint crime and 60% of pickpocket cases are by Romanians.

It's a shame that the truth is never politically correct. The only way to deal with all our problems is to admit them and face them head on. tip toeing around them will never, ever solve a thing.

This Europe thing seems such a one way street sometimes. - Everyone seems to benefit but us. Am i just being paranoid? We keep being told we lack housing, jobs, money etc - the next we are flinging our doors open. Confused?!?!
You are not being paranoid. There must be more for them than hogging all the Big issue stands and sending it back home to build those awful grand houses.
[quote][p][bold]G_Whiz[/bold] wrote: Good on her! But It's not us she should be telling, but other Romanians. Reputations are earned easily. Doesn't help either when official stats say 90% of cashpoint crime and 60% of pickpocket cases are by Romanians. It's a shame that the truth is never politically correct. The only way to deal with all our problems is to admit them and face them head on. tip toeing around them will never, ever solve a thing. This Europe thing seems such a one way street sometimes. - Everyone seems to benefit but us. Am i just being paranoid? We keep being told we lack housing, jobs, money etc - the next we are flinging our doors open. Confused?!?![/p][/quote]You are not being paranoid. There must be more for them than hogging all the Big issue stands and sending it back home to build those awful grand houses. Cornbeefur
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4:20pm Tue 19 Feb 13

LakeBreeze says...

Someone yesterday made a very good point about how, even though good and harworking and tax-paying people are welcome in principle, the fact is that this is a small country with limited resources and the the doors need to close at some point. It's not racism or bigotry, just simple mathematices. The infrastructure can only go so far, and that's just a fact.
Someone yesterday made a very good point about how, even though good and harworking and tax-paying people are welcome in principle, the fact is that this is a small country with limited resources and the the doors need to close at some point. It's not racism or bigotry, just simple mathematices. The infrastructure can only go so far, and that's just a fact. LakeBreeze
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4:22pm Tue 19 Feb 13

LakeBreeze says...

Typo correction: "Mathematics."

Sorry, eyes are tired today.
Typo correction: "Mathematics." Sorry, eyes are tired today. LakeBreeze
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4:56pm Tue 19 Feb 13

T. Watts says...

Quite right my fellow broad-mined friends!

I blame:

- The last Labour Government
- The EU
- Human Rights legislation
- Asylum seekers (not sure if Romanians count as this but we'll chuck it in anyway)
- Tony Blair
- The unions
- The Welfare State
- Immigrants (oh, sorry, you lot above have already done them).
- Single mothers
- Moslems

That should do it, you Sun/Daily Mail reading $%&*@!!!!
Quite right my fellow broad-mined friends! I blame: - The last Labour Government - The EU - Human Rights legislation - Asylum seekers (not sure if Romanians count as this but we'll chuck it in anyway) - Tony Blair - The unions - The Welfare State - Immigrants (oh, sorry, you lot above have already done them). - Single mothers - Moslems That should do it, you Sun/Daily Mail reading $%&*@!!!! T. Watts
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6:27pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Techno3 says...

T. Watts wrote:
Quite right my fellow broad-mined friends!

I blame:

- The last Labour Government
- The EU
- Human Rights legislation
- Asylum seekers (not sure if Romanians count as this but we'll chuck it in anyway)
- Tony Blair
- The unions
- The Welfare State
- Immigrants (oh, sorry, you lot above have already done them).
- Single mothers
- Moslems

That should do it, you Sun/Daily Mail reading $%&*@!!!!
It is no use listing all these various people to blame if you can't identify what you are blaming them for.
[quote][p][bold]T. Watts[/bold] wrote: Quite right my fellow broad-mined friends! I blame: - The last Labour Government - The EU - Human Rights legislation - Asylum seekers (not sure if Romanians count as this but we'll chuck it in anyway) - Tony Blair - The unions - The Welfare State - Immigrants (oh, sorry, you lot above have already done them). - Single mothers - Moslems That should do it, you Sun/Daily Mail reading $%&*@!!!![/p][/quote]It is no use listing all these various people to blame if you can't identify what you are blaming them for. Techno3
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7:58pm Tue 19 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Techno3 wrote:
T. Watts wrote:
Quite right my fellow broad-mined friends!

I blame:

- The last Labour Government
- The EU
- Human Rights legislation
- Asylum seekers (not sure if Romanians count as this but we'll chuck it in anyway)
- Tony Blair
- The unions
- The Welfare State
- Immigrants (oh, sorry, you lot above have already done them).
- Single mothers
- Moslems

That should do it, you Sun/Daily Mail reading $%&*@!!!!
It is no use listing all these various people to blame if you can't identify what you are blaming them for.
Wanting a better life than £100 a month?

I do not blame them I blame the EU and successive Governments selling our Sovereignty down the drain.

It was not that long ago that regular trips were made to Romanian Orphanages from the UK with welfare parcels and so on.

If this mass immigration continues we may have to get them to help us.
[quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T. Watts[/bold] wrote: Quite right my fellow broad-mined friends! I blame: - The last Labour Government - The EU - Human Rights legislation - Asylum seekers (not sure if Romanians count as this but we'll chuck it in anyway) - Tony Blair - The unions - The Welfare State - Immigrants (oh, sorry, you lot above have already done them). - Single mothers - Moslems That should do it, you Sun/Daily Mail reading $%&*@!!!![/p][/quote]It is no use listing all these various people to blame if you can't identify what you are blaming them for.[/p][/quote]Wanting a better life than £100 a month? I do not blame them I blame the EU and successive Governments selling our Sovereignty down the drain. It was not that long ago that regular trips were made to Romanian Orphanages from the UK with welfare parcels and so on. If this mass immigration continues we may have to get them to help us. Cornbeefur
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8:18pm Tue 19 Feb 13

arnie59 says...

What about all our wild fowl they've stolen from our ponds and lakes? Eagle pond used to heave with bird life before we got the Eastern Europeans,at any one time there would be 15 to 20 swans,numerous types of ducks, grebes,moorhens.coot
s etc now all there is are canada geese and seagulls.
What about all our wild fowl they've stolen from our ponds and lakes? Eagle pond used to heave with bird life before we got the Eastern Europeans,at any one time there would be 15 to 20 swans,numerous types of ducks, grebes,moorhens.coot s etc now all there is are canada geese and seagulls. arnie59
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1:41pm Wed 20 Feb 13

G_Whiz says...

I also agree with what Twatts said!
I also agree with what Twatts said! G_Whiz
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3:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Ferdy54 says...

There's enough traffic lights round London for the women (with their babies strapped to them) to wash car windscreens and sell dodgy roses.
There's enough traffic lights round London for the women (with their babies strapped to them) to wash car windscreens and sell dodgy roses. Ferdy54
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9:08pm Mon 25 Feb 13

ClifftonX says...

I see she is a "trained veterinary assistant" whatever that means. Do we have so few people in Great Britain that are able to be veterinary assistanst that we need to give a visa to someone from Romania? I wouldn't think so. Another job that could be done by an idigenous 18-24 year old has gone to someone from overseas. Yes, there will never be a flood of them coming here next year, I'm sure.
I see she is a "trained veterinary assistant" whatever that means. Do we have so few people in Great Britain that are able to be veterinary assistanst that we need to give a visa to someone from Romania? I wouldn't think so. Another job that could be done by an idigenous 18-24 year old has gone to someone from overseas. Yes, there will never be a flood of them coming here next year, I'm sure. ClifftonX
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4:33pm Tue 26 Feb 13

malpasc says...

People seem to conveniently forget that the EU right to freedom of movement works both ways. People in the UK CAN move to other EU countries just as easily.

Can't find a job you want to do here? Why not look within the EU and take advantage of the freedom of movement?

I forget, that would take effort and foreign language skills which most 'indigenous' Brits lack.
People seem to conveniently forget that the EU right to freedom of movement works both ways. People in the UK CAN move to other EU countries just as easily. Can't find a job you want to do here? Why not look within the EU and take advantage of the freedom of movement? I forget, that would take effort and foreign language skills which most 'indigenous' Brits lack. malpasc
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7:49pm Tue 26 Feb 13

ClifftonX says...

malpasc wrote:
People seem to conveniently forget that the EU right to freedom of movement works both ways. People in the UK CAN move to other EU countries just as easily.

Can't find a job you want to do here? Why not look within the EU and take advantage of the freedom of movement?

I forget, that would take effort and foreign language skills which most 'indigenous' Brits lack.
That is the sort of left wing **** usually peddled. Romanians are not yet alllowed freedom to work in the UK like other EU residents. Hence, she should have a visa, and justify getting one. I cant see how that would be the case here.

Why should people leave the UK because of foreigners taking jobs here? Indigenous British people are not lazy, or lack motivation, they just want a level playing field.
[quote][p][bold]malpasc[/bold] wrote: People seem to conveniently forget that the EU right to freedom of movement works both ways. People in the UK CAN move to other EU countries just as easily. Can't find a job you want to do here? Why not look within the EU and take advantage of the freedom of movement? I forget, that would take effort and foreign language skills which most 'indigenous' Brits lack.[/p][/quote]That is the sort of left wing **** usually peddled. Romanians are not yet alllowed freedom to work in the UK like other EU residents. Hence, she should have a visa, and justify getting one. I cant see how that would be the case here. Why should people leave the UK because of foreigners taking jobs here? Indigenous British people are not lazy, or lack motivation, they just want a level playing field. ClifftonX
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8:05pm Tue 26 Feb 13

arnie59 says...

I blame Thatcher.
I blame Thatcher. arnie59
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9:56pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Mindseye says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
tales like this who operated near to her make it hard on the law Abiding:

http://www.guardian-

series.co.uk/news/rb

news/10236703.Railwa

y_cable_thief_jailed

_for_three_years/
Secrets of the pick pockets channel 4, 26/2/13 @ 9pm !
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: tales like this who operated near to her make it hard on the law Abiding: http://www.guardian- series.co.uk/news/rb news/10236703.Railwa y_cable_thief_jailed _for_three_years/[/p][/quote]Secrets of the pick pockets channel 4, 26/2/13 @ 9pm ! Mindseye
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11:46pm Tue 26 Feb 13

SaltBeefur says...

Don't be disheartened by all these bigots Madeline, you tried to do a good thing. I for one, applaud the effort.

The commenters here, have their own problems.

There are good and bad in every society, even ours.
Don't be disheartened by all these bigots Madeline, you tried to do a good thing. I for one, applaud the effort. The commenters here, have their own problems. There are good and bad in every society, even ours. SaltBeefur
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6:37am Wed 27 Feb 13

ClifftonX says...

SaltBeefur wrote:
Don't be disheartened by all these bigots Madeline, you tried to do a good thing. I for one, applaud the effort.

The commenters here, have their own problems.

There are good and bad in every society, even ours.
Typical - try to close down the arguments by accusing everyone who disagrees with un-fettered immigration as "bigots". It is not bigotry to expect the government to halt un-skilled immigration (a veterinary assistant is un-skilled) to allow our children a fair crack at getting a job.

She is 27 and living here with her husband. I don't know, but suspect at that age, that she hasn't paid much in the way of tax in this country, especially as she will be on a relatively low salary. Yet she will be using schools, the hospital, will get child benefit, etc.. So, she, and her family, and probably the rest of her Romanian chums in the picture, will be net takers from the system. This is where it is all wrong. Calling us bigots makes no difference to these issues.
[quote][p][bold]SaltBeefur[/bold] wrote: Don't be disheartened by all these bigots Madeline, you tried to do a good thing. I for one, applaud the effort. The commenters here, have their own problems. There are good and bad in every society, even ours.[/p][/quote]Typical - try to close down the arguments by accusing everyone who disagrees with un-fettered immigration as "bigots". It is not bigotry to expect the government to halt un-skilled immigration (a veterinary assistant is un-skilled) to allow our children a fair crack at getting a job. She is 27 and living here with her husband. I don't know, but suspect at that age, that she hasn't paid much in the way of tax in this country, especially as she will be on a relatively low salary. Yet she will be using schools, the hospital, will get child benefit, etc.. So, she, and her family, and probably the rest of her Romanian chums in the picture, will be net takers from the system. This is where it is all wrong. Calling us bigots makes no difference to these issues. ClifftonX
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3:31pm Wed 27 Feb 13

tjm01 says...

ClifftonX wrote:
malpasc wrote: People seem to conveniently forget that the EU right to freedom of movement works both ways. People in the UK CAN move to other EU countries just as easily. Can't find a job you want to do here? Why not look within the EU and take advantage of the freedom of movement? I forget, that would take effort and foreign language skills which most 'indigenous' Brits lack.
That is the sort of left wing **** usually peddled. Romanians are not yet alllowed freedom to work in the UK like other EU residents. Hence, she should have a visa, and justify getting one. I cant see how that would be the case here. Why should people leave the UK because of foreigners taking jobs here? Indigenous British people are not lazy, or lack motivation, they just want a level playing field.
I agree with some of whats being said, however some indigenous Brits are not unemployed they are unemployable, and a level playing field will not alter the fact that in far too many cases the attitudes of some of todays youth will not allow them to find employment, you have to have something to offer your employer which sadly some of todays youth are sadly lacking
[quote][p][bold]ClifftonX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]malpasc[/bold] wrote: People seem to conveniently forget that the EU right to freedom of movement works both ways. People in the UK CAN move to other EU countries just as easily. Can't find a job you want to do here? Why not look within the EU and take advantage of the freedom of movement? I forget, that would take effort and foreign language skills which most 'indigenous' Brits lack.[/p][/quote]That is the sort of left wing **** usually peddled. Romanians are not yet alllowed freedom to work in the UK like other EU residents. Hence, she should have a visa, and justify getting one. I cant see how that would be the case here. Why should people leave the UK because of foreigners taking jobs here? Indigenous British people are not lazy, or lack motivation, they just want a level playing field.[/p][/quote]I agree with some of whats being said, however some indigenous Brits are not unemployed they are unemployable, and a level playing field will not alter the fact that in far too many cases the attitudes of some of todays youth will not allow them to find employment, you have to have something to offer your employer which sadly some of todays youth are sadly lacking tjm01
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11:30am Sat 2 Mar 13

JackDaniels says...

ClifftonX wrote:
SaltBeefur wrote:
Don't be disheartened by all these bigots Madeline, you tried to do a good thing. I for one, applaud the effort.

The commenters here, have their own problems.

There are good and bad in every society, even ours.
Typical - try to close down the arguments by accusing everyone who disagrees with un-fettered immigration as "bigots". It is not bigotry to expect the government to halt un-skilled immigration (a veterinary assistant is un-skilled) to allow our children a fair crack at getting a job.

She is 27 and living here with her husband. I don't know, but suspect at that age, that she hasn't paid much in the way of tax in this country, especially as she will be on a relatively low salary. Yet she will be using schools, the hospital, will get child benefit, etc.. So, she, and her family, and probably the rest of her Romanian chums in the picture, will be net takers from the system. This is where it is all wrong. Calling us bigots makes no difference to these issues.
You're missing the point CliftonX, this article is about one woman who wished to extend the hand of friendship with an unselfish act.
It was not an invitation to start a debate on our own country's immigration policies, nor the apparent weaknesses thereof. You have been distracted.
There won't be any "flood of immigrants", those that wanted to come here, are here already. Many are returning, finding the UK not to be the Shangri-la they hoped for.
Bigot - a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who thinks that anyone who does not have the same beliefs is wrong.
If the caps fits...
[quote][p][bold]ClifftonX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaltBeefur[/bold] wrote: Don't be disheartened by all these bigots Madeline, you tried to do a good thing. I for one, applaud the effort. The commenters here, have their own problems. There are good and bad in every society, even ours.[/p][/quote]Typical - try to close down the arguments by accusing everyone who disagrees with un-fettered immigration as "bigots". It is not bigotry to expect the government to halt un-skilled immigration (a veterinary assistant is un-skilled) to allow our children a fair crack at getting a job. She is 27 and living here with her husband. I don't know, but suspect at that age, that she hasn't paid much in the way of tax in this country, especially as she will be on a relatively low salary. Yet she will be using schools, the hospital, will get child benefit, etc.. So, she, and her family, and probably the rest of her Romanian chums in the picture, will be net takers from the system. This is where it is all wrong. Calling us bigots makes no difference to these issues.[/p][/quote]You're missing the point CliftonX, this article is about one woman who wished to extend the hand of friendship with an unselfish act. It was not an invitation to start a debate on our own country's immigration policies, nor the apparent weaknesses thereof. You have been distracted. There won't be any "flood of immigrants", those that wanted to come here, are here already. Many are returning, finding the UK not to be the Shangri-la they hoped for. Bigot - a person who has strong, unreasonable beliefs and who thinks that anyone who does not have the same beliefs is wrong. If the caps fits... JackDaniels
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11:54am Sat 2 Mar 13

myopinioncounts says...

Ferdy54 says...
3:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13

There's enough traffic lights round London for the women (with their babies strapped to them) to wash car windscreens and sell dodgy roses.
-
Beware the dropped money trick! My son handed one woman who had 'cleaned' his windscreen a £1 coin to get rid of her, she 'accidentally' dropped it into the car so he gave her another rather than try to find it. On arriving at work he found that the dropped coin was a 1pence piece!
Ferdy54 says... 3:20pm Mon 25 Feb 13 There's enough traffic lights round London for the women (with their babies strapped to them) to wash car windscreens and sell dodgy roses. - Beware the dropped money trick! My son handed one woman who had 'cleaned' his windscreen a £1 coin to get rid of her, she 'accidentally' dropped it into the car so he gave her another rather than try to find it. On arriving at work he found that the dropped coin was a 1pence piece! myopinioncounts
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10:56pm Sun 3 Mar 13

Redbridge person says...

what needs to be established is the difference between the romanians and the gypsies. romanians i find are nice people. the gypsies are nothing but trouble...they revel in playing the victim whilst thieving. ilford lane is a no go area as so many gypsies are there, dumping rubbish, stealing from shops, the asian shopkeepers hate them. the park now has a wall around it to keep them out as they were using it as a toilet in full view of public passing by, dumping rubbish and used tampax. let them squat outside one of bliars homes!!!
what needs to be established is the difference between the romanians and the gypsies. romanians i find are nice people. the gypsies are nothing but trouble...they revel in playing the victim whilst thieving. ilford lane is a no go area as so many gypsies are there, dumping rubbish, stealing from shops, the asian shopkeepers hate them. the park now has a wall around it to keep them out as they were using it as a toilet in full view of public passing by, dumping rubbish and used tampax. let them squat outside one of bliars homes!!! Redbridge person
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