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REDBRIDGE: Politicians row over 'gagging' at meeting

A POLITICAL row has broken out among Redbridge councillors after a man was banned from asking a question during a council meeting.

At a full meeting of the authority last week, Shoaib Patel, a Liberal Democrat candidate for the upcoming Valentines Ward by-election, attempted to ask a question during a slot for public speaking, but was denied the chance amid concerns over his political status.

Lib Dem politicians said they were furious that "legal advice granting permission for Mr Patel to speak was ignored", as Tory and Labour councillors voted not to let him ask his question.

Lib Dem Church End representative Richard Hoskins said he was "shocked" by the attempt to "gag" a member of the public.

He added: "It is unacceptable that the council leader should be allowed to arrogantly ride roughshod over the established rules of council procedures in this way."

But Redbridge’s Conservative group accused the Lib Dems of "political point scoring."

A spokeswoman said: "We regret that the Liberal Democrats decided to break with convention and use the council's public speaking slot for their own political purposes.

"The public speaking slot during council meetings is just that.

"It is quite unprecedented for political candidates to attempt to use this for their own purposes and neither the Conservative or Labour candidates have ever attempted to use council time in this way during an election."

The by-election for Valentines Ward, in Ilford, will be held next Thursday (January 29) following the resignation of Labour councillor Nadia Jabine Sharif last month.

Four candidates are standing in the election.

They are Abdurahman Akhtar Jafar, of Respect, Surinder Pahl, of Labour, Shoaib Patel, of the Liberal Democrats, and Ikram Wahid, of the Conservatives.

Ms Sharif left her seat in December following her marriage and move away from the borough to Cardiff.

Comments(10)

Morris Hickey says...
11:13am Wed 21 Jan 09

He is not alone. I submitted a question that was not allowed because the Mayor did not like the content. No doubt it was too close to home for comfort.

Touchwood says...
12:03pm Wed 21 Jan 09

More local council shenanigans!!

Gary Monro says...
1:14pm Wed 21 Jan 09

The Lib Dems in Valentines ward are fighting a losing battle and, as they do so, are becoming increasingly desperate.

In the rush to replace the failing Labour party in that ward it seems they'll do anything. As well as their Council chamber stunt they also used a picture of suffering children in Gaza in their campaign literature which, to most decent people's minds, is simply an exploitation of other people's misery.

One can only imagine what they'll do next.

Morris Hickey says...
1:39pm Wed 21 Jan 09

It was allegedly Voltaire (1694-1778) who said "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it".

In the approach to next week's Holocaust Memorial Day we should remember the importance of freedom of both thought and speech, irrespective of whether or not we might agree.

Gary Monro says...
9:56am Thu 22 Jan 09

Morris, point taken but freedoms come with responsibilities. We simply do not use time put aside expressly for the public as an opportunity for political candidates to make points. And this will have been the reason that Labour first stood up and objected to the Lib Dem candidate speaking. If the Lib Dem candidate was a regular contributor to council discussion and had previously shown genuine concern for the well-being of Redbridge residents there might be a case for him to have spoken. But he's turned up on the scene promsing to cure everybody's problems and yet, until 8 weeks ago, we'd never heard of him. At least Ikram Wahid has been an ongoing member and worker for the Conservative Party and has, therefore, demonstrated over the last 5 years that he's here on principle rather than last-minute opportunity.

Hogwasher says...
7:07pm Thu 22 Jan 09

So what you are basically saying Gary Monro is that you can only speak at council meetings if you are a) a non-entity everyone can safely ignore, or b) 'one of us'.

But woe betide anyone who wants to actually try and speak at council meetings if they intend to hang around and change anything.

If councillors won't listen to people who responsibly come to speak at their meetings, at a time and a place the public is told they are 'allowed' to, what message is that sending to the idiots who want to change things through undemocratic means?

Claridger says...
7:19pm Thu 22 Jan 09

They have to monitor what is asked to prevent irrelevant and repeated questions and statements being made otherwise they would never achieve any work getting done as time is limited. It is not rocket science.

ianbond says...
11:37pm Thu 22 Jan 09

As it happens Mr Patel was the only member of public down to speak at the meeting and the agenda was short; the meeting finished much earlier than usual. The question tabled was a factual one about local schools and the Council officers advised the meeting that it was perfectly proper for it to be asked and answered. Sadly both Labour and Tory councillors chose to abuse their positions and prevent the question being asked. Nor was either the Mayor or the Leader of the Council able to explain to the meeting under what power Mr Patel was being silenced.

Hogwasher says...
10:26am Fri 23 Jan 09

Thanks you for that clarification ianbond.

It's really looking just like a case of censorship.


Morris Hickey says...
12:59pm Fri 23 Jan 09

Hogwasher wrote:
Thanks you for that clarification ianbond. It's really looking just like a case of censorship.
It is. Roll on 6 May 2010.

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