WALTHAMSTOW: Campaigners celebrate 'victory' over EDL

East London and West Essex Guardian Series: WALTHAMSTOW: Campaigners celebrate 'victory' over EDL WALTHAMSTOW: Campaigners celebrate 'victory' over EDL

A MAIN road in Walthamstow has been part closed by police this lunchtime for a rally against the far-right English Defence League (EDL).

An estimated 250 people have turned out for the static protest in Hoe Street, outside the former EMD cinema.

Police say the demonstration must end at 2pm when the road will be reopened.

The EDL, which claims to be a movement opposed to Islamic extremism but which critics say is racist, wanted to march through the borough today (Saturday October 27).

But the government approved a ban on all marches for 30 days earlier this week following police intelligence that there could be violence and disruption.

The Met then also imposed special "conditions" on protesting which prevent the EDL and organisations associated with it from coming to Waltham Forest and holding a static protest.

The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am.

But there have otherwise been no signs of potential supporters of the EDL in Walthamstow and the mood is generally calm in the town centre.

There is a heavy police presence at train stations in the borough and the police have been stopping cars in areas such as the Bakers Arms on the Walthamstow and Leyton border.

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Today's anti-EDL rally has been organised by campaigners from Unite Against Fascism (UAF) and umbrella group We Are Waltham Forest (WAWF), who are still legally allowed to hold static protests in the borough.

The EDL has been given permission to hold a static protest outside the Houses of Parliament in Westminster at 1pm instead.

It said it would apply again to return to Walthamstow when the 30 day ban on marches expires.

The council has organised a funday to celebrate the diversity of Waltham Forest in Walthamstow town centre.

It includes a funfair and activities such as table tennis, although there appeared to be a low attendance at the events this morning.

Waltham Forest Council and the Guardian campaigned for the march to be banned, with more than 5,000 people signing a petition in support.

This website will be updated later today with a full report on the day's events.

 

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10:44am Sat 27 Oct 12

chubby1970 says...

5000 people signing a petition out of a Waltham Forest population of 258,200 hardly seems democratic. Everyone should have the right to protest or no one,
5000 people signing a petition out of a Waltham Forest population of 258,200 hardly seems democratic. Everyone should have the right to protest or no one, chubby1970
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10:54am Sat 27 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

Is this gathering legal if all such activity is banned?
Is this gathering legal if all such activity is banned? Cornbeefur
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11:01am Sat 27 Oct 12

Nairn says...

Thought you had a degree in Law Cornbeefur?

Thought you spent your days reading all the details about everything that happens in WF?

Thought you might have read the council's website to find out details of today
Thought you had a degree in Law Cornbeefur? Thought you spent your days reading all the details about everything that happens in WF? Thought you might have read the council's website to find out details of today Nairn
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11:04am Sat 27 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

Nairn wrote:
Thought you had a degree in Law Cornbeefur?

Thought you spent your days reading all the details about everything that happens in WF?

Thought you might have read the council's website to find out details of today
What have my qualifications got to do with a ban imposed this week?

I smell trouble brewing
[quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Thought you had a degree in Law Cornbeefur? Thought you spent your days reading all the details about everything that happens in WF? Thought you might have read the council's website to find out details of today[/p][/quote]What have my qualifications got to do with a ban imposed this week? I smell trouble brewing Cornbeefur
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11:16am Sat 27 Oct 12

Nairn says...

Your qualifications, like mine, mean that you can understand the written word, you/we understand legal terms and know where to find out more information about laws being enforced and what parts of the law are being used and what they mean when they are used.
Your qualifications, like mine, mean that you can understand the written word, you/we understand legal terms and know where to find out more information about laws being enforced and what parts of the law are being used and what they mean when they are used. Nairn
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11:36am Sat 27 Oct 12

Techno3 says...

Jeanette Arnold reportedly choosing to spend her time with the 'comrades' in the SWP rather than protesting against the EDL in Westminster seems a bit odd to me.
Jeanette Arnold reportedly choosing to spend her time with the 'comrades' in the SWP rather than protesting against the EDL in Westminster seems a bit odd to me. Techno3
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11:38am Sat 27 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

Nairn wrote:
Your qualifications, like mine, mean that you can understand the written word, you/we understand legal terms and know where to find out more information about laws being enforced and what parts of the law are being used and what they mean when they are used.
And as you will know, interpretation is what it is all about.
[quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Your qualifications, like mine, mean that you can understand the written word, you/we understand legal terms and know where to find out more information about laws being enforced and what parts of the law are being used and what they mean when they are used.[/p][/quote]And as you will know, interpretation is what it is all about. Cornbeefur
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12:51pm Sat 27 Oct 12

leyton_man says...

"The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am."

Shariah Law has won then.

Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country.

Let the exodus begin.
"The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am." Shariah Law has won then. Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country. Let the exodus begin. leyton_man
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1:06pm Sat 27 Oct 12

chubby1970 says...

I didn't realise sus laws could be used on the basis of race, Seems the case if your white and wear a St Georges badge.
I didn't realise sus laws could be used on the basis of race, Seems the case if your white and wear a St Georges badge. chubby1970
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1:14pm Sat 27 Oct 12

mdj says...

Have I got this right? The EDL aren't coming (good, because 'coming' gives away that they aren't local), but even so another gang claim the right to put us in lockdown, and people showing the national flag can be ridden out of town? What if they live here?
Somebody please explain.
Have I got this right? The EDL aren't coming (good, because 'coming' gives away that they aren't local), but even so another gang claim the right to put us in lockdown, and people showing the national flag can be ridden out of town? What if they live here? Somebody please explain. mdj
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1:21pm Sat 27 Oct 12

ruby newbie says...

I'm confused,,,,,so can you protest or not?....seems as if it depends on what you are protesting about.......ah well say good bye to a democratic country then....
I'm confused,,,,,so can you protest or not?....seems as if it depends on what you are protesting about.......ah well say good bye to a democratic country then.... ruby newbie
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1:22pm Sat 27 Oct 12

E17_er says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Your qualifications, like mine, mean that you can understand the written word, you/we understand legal terms and know where to find out more information about laws being enforced and what parts of the law are being used and what they mean when they are used.
And as you will know, interpretation is what it is all about.
Or in your case misinterpretation at any opportunity. If you can't understand the paragraph

"Today's anti-EDL rally has been organised by campaigners from Unite Against Fascism (UAF) and umbrella group We Are Waltham Forest (WAWF), who are still legally allowed to hold static protests in the borough."

Then you should spend more time brushing up on your comprehension skills and less commenting on every single article
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Your qualifications, like mine, mean that you can understand the written word, you/we understand legal terms and know where to find out more information about laws being enforced and what parts of the law are being used and what they mean when they are used.[/p][/quote]And as you will know, interpretation is what it is all about.[/p][/quote]Or in your case misinterpretation at any opportunity. If you can't understand the paragraph "Today's anti-EDL rally has been organised by campaigners from Unite Against Fascism (UAF) and umbrella group We Are Waltham Forest (WAWF), who are still legally allowed to hold static protests in the borough." Then you should spend more time brushing up on your comprehension skills and less commenting on every single article E17_er
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2:01pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Brisbane says...

"Campaigners celebrate victory over free speech" would be a more accurate headline.
"Campaigners celebrate victory over free speech" would be a more accurate headline. Brisbane
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2:15pm Sat 27 Oct 12

lolse17 says...

leyton_man wrote:
"The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am."

Shariah Law has won then.

Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country.

Let the exodus begin.
but its ok for the shops and stalls in walthamstow to sell OUR English flags to earn money yet We cant wear them............ outrageous and disgraceful....... I for one wear mine with pride.
[quote][p][bold]leyton_man[/bold] wrote: "The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am." Shariah Law has won then. Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country. Let the exodus begin.[/p][/quote]but its ok for the shops and stalls in walthamstow to sell OUR English flags to earn money yet We cant wear them............ outrageous and disgraceful....... I for one wear mine with pride. lolse17
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2:18pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Sam Hain says...

Perhaps our legal eagles can resolve this apparent anomaly. The official information circulated by the Met Police stated the the EDL's static demonstratction could only take place between 1-2pm in Old Palace Yard, Westminster. No other demonstrations would be allowed. However, there was a caveat that appeared to allow for local non-EDL protests: "Note: The order does not apply where the procession is one commonly or customarily held in the police area in which it is proposed to be held or is a funeral procession organised by a funeral director acting on the normal course of his business." Not only does this explicitly allow for a 'procession', rather than just a static demonstration, but could possibly be taken to allow for a local protest, if that is how one interprets "commonly or customarily". However, whether any of this covers the SWP-inspired demo on Hoe Street outside the EMD it is obviously a sign that the police have chosen to interpret it that way. How this squares with the statement on the Council website that "We will not allow any counter demonstrations or protests to take place in this area." I'm not clear. Perhaps "area" means specifically Town Square and Gardens and the Arcade Site but who knows. Talk about sending out mixed messages and applying one rule to one lot and another to another!
Perhaps our legal eagles can resolve this apparent anomaly. The official information circulated by the Met Police stated the the EDL's static demonstratction could only take place between 1-2pm in Old Palace Yard, Westminster. No other demonstrations would be allowed. However, there was a caveat that appeared to allow for local non-EDL protests: "Note: The order does not apply where the procession is one commonly or customarily held in the police area in which it is proposed to be held or is a funeral procession organised by a funeral director acting on the normal course of his business." Not only does this explicitly allow for a 'procession', rather than just a static demonstration, but could possibly be taken to allow for a local protest, if that is how one interprets "commonly or customarily". However, whether any of this covers the SWP-inspired demo on Hoe Street outside the EMD it is obviously a sign that the police have chosen to interpret it that way. How this squares with the statement on the Council website that "We will not allow any counter demonstrations or protests to take place in this area." I'm not clear. Perhaps "area" means specifically Town Square and Gardens and the Arcade Site but who knows. Talk about sending out mixed messages and applying one rule to one lot and another to another! Sam Hain
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2:23pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Trevor 2 says...

It's just one lost of nutters being replaced by another lot of nutters!!
It's just one lost of nutters being replaced by another lot of nutters!! Trevor 2
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2:29pm Sat 27 Oct 12

E17_er says...

Trevor 2 wrote:
It's just one lost of nutters being replaced by another lot of nutters!!
How true
[quote][p][bold]Trevor 2[/bold] wrote: It's just one lost of nutters being replaced by another lot of nutters!![/p][/quote]How true E17_er
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2:40pm Sat 27 Oct 12

mdj says...

'.. but could possibly be taken to allow for a local protest, if that is how one interprets "commonly or customarily"...

This is surely a stretch, Sam, unless this is going to become a regular home-and-away fixture? Not something to look forward to! I don't think most people would take the phrase 'static protest' to result in the closure of the main road through the borough on the main shopping day. How much warning did people have? I'm glad I read this here before setting out !
'.. but could possibly be taken to allow for a local protest, if that is how one interprets "commonly or customarily"... This is surely a stretch, Sam, unless this is going to become a regular home-and-away fixture? Not something to look forward to! I don't think most people would take the phrase 'static protest' to result in the closure of the main road through the borough on the main shopping day. How much warning did people have? I'm glad I read this here before setting out ! mdj
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3:13pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Sam Hain says...

I agree, mdj, although the regularity with which the SWP turn up a almost every local event could probably satisfy the "commonly or customarily" criterion. They are positively ubiquitous!
I agree, mdj, although the regularity with which the SWP turn up a almost every local event could probably satisfy the "commonly or customarily" criterion. They are positively ubiquitous! Sam Hain
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4:06pm Sat 27 Oct 12

MrAkavet says...

leyton_man wrote:
"The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am."

Shariah Law has won then.

Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country.

Let the exodus begin.
How does this have anything to do with Sharia law ? Was a bearded mullah moving the 2 men on?

Just stirring it for the sake of it - just like those 2 guys who might have been trying to attend the banned EDL rally.

The police are allowed to prevent possible breaches of the peace from whatever side - though seem to have been pathetically prepared to do so when UAF/SWP did so near the 'funfair'.
[quote][p][bold]leyton_man[/bold] wrote: "The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am." Shariah Law has won then. Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country. Let the exodus begin.[/p][/quote]How does this have anything to do with Sharia law ? Was a bearded mullah moving the 2 men on? Just stirring it for the sake of it - just like those 2 guys who might have been trying to attend the banned EDL rally. The police are allowed to prevent possible breaches of the peace from whatever side - though seem to have been pathetically prepared to do so when UAF/SWP did so near the 'funfair'. MrAkavet
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4:18pm Sat 27 Oct 12

MrAkavet says...

lolse17 wrote:
leyton_man wrote:
"The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am."

Shariah Law has won then.

Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country.

Let the exodus begin.
but its ok for the shops and stalls in walthamstow to sell OUR English flags to earn money yet We cant wear them............ outrageous and disgraceful....... I for one wear mine with pride.
How many other people have been hassled/moved on for wearing an English badge or flag then ? Any evidence or just another conspiracy theorist ?

Anyone ordered you personally not to wear the English flag ? Don't remember reading lots of reports about this going on all the time ....


I seem to remember a few months back thousands of us wearing the Union Jack flag with pride and no arrests or moving on then.That's when we were proud of being a Britain of every colour,race and abillity .

Its very telling that the 'patriotic' St George flag wavers of the EDL aren't wanted at the ceremony to commemorate our heroic war dead. I wonder why?
[quote][p][bold]lolse17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leyton_man[/bold] wrote: "The Guardian witnessed two youths wearing flag of St George badges being escorted away from Walthamstow town centre by police at around 10.30am." Shariah Law has won then. Disgraceful you can't wear a badge of your home country IN your home country. Let the exodus begin.[/p][/quote]but its ok for the shops and stalls in walthamstow to sell OUR English flags to earn money yet We cant wear them............ outrageous and disgraceful....... I for one wear mine with pride.[/p][/quote]How many other people have been hassled/moved on for wearing an English badge or flag then ? Any evidence or just another conspiracy theorist ? Anyone ordered you personally not to wear the English flag ? Don't remember reading lots of reports about this going on all the time .... I seem to remember a few months back thousands of us wearing the Union Jack flag with pride and no arrests or moving on then.That's when we were proud of being a Britain of every colour,race and abillity . Its very telling that the 'patriotic' St George flag wavers of the EDL aren't wanted at the ceremony to commemorate our heroic war dead. I wonder why? MrAkavet
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5:12pm Sat 27 Oct 12

TerryDee says...

R.I.P. stands for Racists In Pieces. The EDL fascists failed pathetically in Walthamstow today - whilst anti-EDL peaceful protesters marched down Hoe Street in celebration. Very special thanks to Rev Saxby for his role in ensuring a peaceful but proudly determined direct community response.
R.I.P. stands for Racists In Pieces. The EDL fascists failed pathetically in Walthamstow today - whilst anti-EDL peaceful protesters marched down Hoe Street in celebration. Very special thanks to Rev Saxby for his role in ensuring a peaceful but proudly determined direct community response. TerryDee
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5:37pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Nairn says...

TerryDee - Peaceful? You are joking aren't you? I saw at least 30 people pushing a police line at the top of the High St where it meets Hoe St. The police were trying to lead the counter demonstrators back to Walthamstow Central in an organised manner. But no, the anti-EDL 'peaceful' protesters started chanting 'let us through', unwilling to wait for the police to lead them back to the meeting point. Then at least 40 or 50 of these peaceful people pushed the police en-masse and I saw at least one fist from these 'peaceful' anti-EDL demonstrators hit a police officer. Then the 'peaceful' crowd started shouting 'see the police abuse and aggression'!!

Oh and while some of the 'peaceful anti-EDL' demonstrators WERE demonstrating against the EDL, there were also groups demonstrating about 'Illegal Isreali Settlements Against Palastinians' and 'Bring Back EMA' to name but two totally unrelated to the EDL groups that were there.

Any excuse it seems to cause chaos in the Town centre area today. Thanks but don't bother coming here again.

(Oh and the bus from Eastbourne that brought a load of you here has obviously taken you all back now as it's moved from it's parking place in a bus stop area outside the Alpha Business centre)
TerryDee - Peaceful? You are joking aren't you? I saw at least 30 people pushing a police line at the top of the High St where it meets Hoe St. The police were trying to lead the counter demonstrators back to Walthamstow Central in an organised manner. But no, the anti-EDL 'peaceful' protesters started chanting 'let us through', unwilling to wait for the police to lead them back to the meeting point. Then at least 40 or 50 of these peaceful people pushed the police en-masse and I saw at least one fist from these 'peaceful' anti-EDL demonstrators hit a police officer. Then the 'peaceful' crowd started shouting 'see the police abuse and aggression'!! Oh and while some of the 'peaceful anti-EDL' demonstrators WERE demonstrating against the EDL, there were also groups demonstrating about 'Illegal Isreali Settlements Against Palastinians' and 'Bring Back EMA' to name but two totally unrelated to the EDL groups that were there. Any excuse it seems to cause chaos in the Town centre area today. Thanks but don't bother coming here again. (Oh and the bus from Eastbourne that brought a load of you here has obviously taken you all back now as it's moved from it's parking place in a bus stop area outside the Alpha Business centre) Nairn
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6:52pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Techno3 says...

Nairn wrote:
TerryDee - Peaceful? You are joking aren't you? I saw at least 30 people pushing a police line at the top of the High St where it meets Hoe St. The police were trying to lead the counter demonstrators back to Walthamstow Central in an organised manner. But no, the anti-EDL 'peaceful' protesters started chanting 'let us through', unwilling to wait for the police to lead them back to the meeting point. Then at least 40 or 50 of these peaceful people pushed the police en-masse and I saw at least one fist from these 'peaceful' anti-EDL demonstrators hit a police officer. Then the 'peaceful' crowd started shouting 'see the police abuse and aggression'!!

Oh and while some of the 'peaceful anti-EDL' demonstrators WERE demonstrating against the EDL, there were also groups demonstrating about 'Illegal Isreali Settlements Against Palastinians' and 'Bring Back EMA' to name but two totally unrelated to the EDL groups that were there.

Any excuse it seems to cause chaos in the Town centre area today. Thanks but don't bother coming here again.

(Oh and the bus from Eastbourne that brought a load of you here has obviously taken you all back now as it's moved from it's parking place in a bus stop area outside the Alpha Business centre)
I noticed very few local faces in the so called 'we are waltham forest ranks' today.

Compared to the many genuinely local people who turned out to oppose the EDL, especially the residents on Forest Road last time, today's pantomime was mainly a rent-a-mob affair. Basically, the Socialist Worker's party blocked Hoe Street for no good reason.

The organisers should be sent the bill for the cost of policing today and also compensate all the affected local people and businesses.
[quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: TerryDee - Peaceful? You are joking aren't you? I saw at least 30 people pushing a police line at the top of the High St where it meets Hoe St. The police were trying to lead the counter demonstrators back to Walthamstow Central in an organised manner. But no, the anti-EDL 'peaceful' protesters started chanting 'let us through', unwilling to wait for the police to lead them back to the meeting point. Then at least 40 or 50 of these peaceful people pushed the police en-masse and I saw at least one fist from these 'peaceful' anti-EDL demonstrators hit a police officer. Then the 'peaceful' crowd started shouting 'see the police abuse and aggression'!! Oh and while some of the 'peaceful anti-EDL' demonstrators WERE demonstrating against the EDL, there were also groups demonstrating about 'Illegal Isreali Settlements Against Palastinians' and 'Bring Back EMA' to name but two totally unrelated to the EDL groups that were there. Any excuse it seems to cause chaos in the Town centre area today. Thanks but don't bother coming here again. (Oh and the bus from Eastbourne that brought a load of you here has obviously taken you all back now as it's moved from it's parking place in a bus stop area outside the Alpha Business centre)[/p][/quote]I noticed very few local faces in the so called 'we are waltham forest ranks' today. Compared to the many genuinely local people who turned out to oppose the EDL, especially the residents on Forest Road last time, today's pantomime was mainly a rent-a-mob affair. Basically, the Socialist Worker's party blocked Hoe Street for no good reason. The organisers should be sent the bill for the cost of policing today and also compensate all the affected local people and businesses. Techno3
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8:27pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Redbridge person says...

i remember the SWP etc from my uni days, mostly all very middle class trendies who just want a fight....and they will go anywhere to have one. They even used to advise marchers on how to hurt police horses so as to cause more disruption. A vile nasty organisation that latches onto anything just for some aggro.
i remember the SWP etc from my uni days, mostly all very middle class trendies who just want a fight....and they will go anywhere to have one. They even used to advise marchers on how to hurt police horses so as to cause more disruption. A vile nasty organisation that latches onto anything just for some aggro. Redbridge person
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8:32pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

I must say, I had a lovely meal in the Windmill Portuguese restaurant, High St, this evening, everybody got along, including a group of men and ladies who said they were here on behalf of the EDL but backed down and decided to go for some dinner.
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I must say, I had a lovely meal in the Windmill Portuguese restaurant, High St, this evening, everybody got along, including a group of men and ladies who said they were here on behalf of the EDL but backed down and decided to go for some dinner. . Cornbeefur
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8:44pm Sat 27 Oct 12

Nairn says...

Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew Nairn
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9:41am Sun 28 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
[quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday. Cornbeefur
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12:55pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Alan_1976 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity. Alan_1976
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1:26pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Nairn says...

Alan_1976

Absolutely. It was a crime yesterday to be a member of the EDL and have a meal in Waltham Forest (and 3 other boroughs) and it will remain a crime for the next 27 days.

And which streets in particular Cornbeefur did the police 'lose control' of? I mean name them.

If anything they had more control of the streets than even and made 3 arrests as a result of it. Did you not read this in the newspaper report on yesterday, put on their website this morning?

'Police checkpoints were spotted at a variety of sites in the borough, including the Bakers Arms in Leyton and Billet Road in Walthamstow'

and I saw the one in Billet Road.

Mind you, if you mean they lost control of the bottom of the High Street where the Windmill Restaurant is and where you and criminals were sitting and talking together, then you are right!
Alan_1976 Absolutely. It was a crime yesterday to be a member of the EDL and have a meal in Waltham Forest (and 3 other boroughs) and it will remain a crime for the next 27 days. And which streets in particular Cornbeefur did the police 'lose control' of? I mean name them. If anything they had more control of the streets than even and made 3 arrests as a result of it. Did you not read this in the newspaper report on yesterday, put on their website this morning? 'Police checkpoints were spotted at a variety of sites in the borough, including the Bakers Arms in Leyton and Billet Road in Walthamstow' and I saw the one in Billet Road. Mind you, if you mean they lost control of the bottom of the High Street where the Windmill Restaurant is and where you and criminals were sitting and talking together, then you are right! Nairn
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1:30pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
[quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found. Cornbeefur
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1:39pm Sun 28 Oct 12

E17_er says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt. E17_er
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1:40pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Nairn says...

You said it yourself Cornbeefur:


"I must say, I had a lovely meal in the Windmill Portuguese restaurant, High St, this evening, everybody got along, including a group of men and ladies who said they were here on behalf of the EDL but backed down and decided to go for some dinner."

Did they make a general announcement in the restaurant that they were there on behalf of the EDL? Were they wearing a sign saying this?
If not, how did you get the information you say you heard them say ie. 'that they were here on behalf of the EDL but backed down....."?
You said it yourself Cornbeefur: "I must say, I had a lovely meal in the Windmill Portuguese restaurant, High St, this evening, everybody got along, including a group of men and ladies who said they were here on behalf of the EDL but backed down and decided to go for some dinner." Did they make a general announcement in the restaurant that they were there on behalf of the EDL? Were they wearing a sign saying this? If not, how did you get the information you say you heard them say ie. 'that they were here on behalf of the EDL but backed down....."? Nairn
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1:51pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Do you now expect everyone who goes into a McDonalds to call the Police so that the Police can 'CRO check' every customer to enquire as to whether they have a Criminal Conviction or whether they belong to the EDL (which is not a banned party as far as I know).

I can just imagine being shown a table in a restaurant and having to ask the Waiter if he is seating me next to any known Crooks.

I could imagine going out for a meal with you, 'No not here, there is a man with a shaven head and tattoo on his arm by the sweet trolly'

You must have very tolerant friends and family.
[quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Do you now expect everyone who goes into a McDonalds to call the Police so that the Police can 'CRO check' every customer to enquire as to whether they have a Criminal Conviction or whether they belong to the EDL (which is not a banned party as far as I know). I can just imagine being shown a table in a restaurant and having to ask the Waiter if he is seating me next to any known Crooks. I could imagine going out for a meal with you, 'No not here, there is a man with a shaven head and tattoo on his arm by the sweet trolly' You must have very tolerant friends and family. Cornbeefur
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2:20pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Techno3 says...

E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
[quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry. Techno3
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3:09pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Hahaha Secret Masonic Restaurant Police

Red Stars on the Red Door
[quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Hahaha Secret Masonic Restaurant Police Red Stars on the Red Door Cornbeefur
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4:21pm Sun 28 Oct 12

E17_er says...

Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port.

Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up.


If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.
[quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port. Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up. If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police. E17_er
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5:30pm Sun 28 Oct 12

Techno3 says...

E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port.

Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up.


If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.
It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it.

What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive.

I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.
[quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port. Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up. If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.[/p][/quote]It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it. What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive. I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'. Techno3
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5:46pm Sun 28 Oct 12

E17_er says...

Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port.

Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up.


If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.
It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it.

What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive.

I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.
None of which I disagree with or have argued against.

So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday.

That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.
[quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port. Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up. If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.[/p][/quote]It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it. What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive. I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.[/p][/quote]None of which I disagree with or have argued against. So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday. That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right. E17_er
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5:13pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port.

Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up.


If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.
It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it.

What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive.

I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.
None of which I disagree with or have argued against.

So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday.

That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.
It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first.

It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place.
[quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port. Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up. If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.[/p][/quote]It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it. What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive. I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.[/p][/quote]None of which I disagree with or have argued against. So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday. That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.[/p][/quote]It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first. It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place. Cornbeefur
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5:16pm Mon 29 Oct 12

E17_er says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port.

Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up.


If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.
It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it.

What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive.

I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.
None of which I disagree with or have argued against.

So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday.

That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.
It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first.

It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place.
And your public duty when later discovering that they are breaking the law to report that.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port. Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up. If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.[/p][/quote]It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it. What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive. I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.[/p][/quote]None of which I disagree with or have argued against. So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday. That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.[/p][/quote]It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first. It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place.[/p][/quote]And your public duty when later discovering that they are breaking the law to report that. E17_er
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11:14pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Cornbeefur says...

E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port.

Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up.


If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.
It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it.

What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive.

I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.
None of which I disagree with or have argued against.

So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday.

That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.
It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first.

It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place.
And your public duty when later discovering that they are breaking the law to report that.
Very true, but how have you assumed that I did not do this?
[quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port. Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up. If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.[/p][/quote]It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it. What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive. I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.[/p][/quote]None of which I disagree with or have argued against. So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday. That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.[/p][/quote]It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first. It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place.[/p][/quote]And your public duty when later discovering that they are breaking the law to report that.[/p][/quote]Very true, but how have you assumed that I did not do this? Cornbeefur
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6:44am Tue 30 Oct 12

E17_er says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
E17_er wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Alan_1976 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Nairn wrote:
Yeah yeah Cornbeefur.....

Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested.

So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals!

Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(....

Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew
I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal.

The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.
It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.
Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals?

I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter.

Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them?

You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it.

I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady.

It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf.

Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again.

I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.
I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment.

Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.
Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile.

Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.
Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port.

Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up.


If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.
It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it.

What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive.

I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.
None of which I disagree with or have argued against.

So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday.

That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.
It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first.

It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place.
And your public duty when later discovering that they are breaking the law to report that.
Very true, but how have you assumed that I did not do this?
I assumed you would be too busy making inappropriate comments on articles where people have tragically lost their lives.

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[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]E17_er[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alan_1976[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nairn[/bold] wrote: Yeah yeah Cornbeefur..... Either that or it's another case of the police not in control of our streets, Walthamstow going down the pan, out of control... I mean, fancy an upstanding citizen like you not calling the police to report the EDL people for committing a crime - which they were, of course, by breaking the s14 conditions the police put in place ie. that no EDL people could come here and if they did, they would be arrested. So, a crime being committed right under your nose...... indeed, speaking with the criminals! Honestly, this place is going downhill. The police have lost control of our streets (and restaurants it seems!). Crime is on the increase (two just this evening in the restaurant!(.... Will be at the estate agents first thing on Monday - I'm outta here. Someone from Stoke Newington will probably buy my place.... phew[/p][/quote]I do not think it is a crime to be a member of the EDL and go out for a meal. The Police certainly lost control of the streets yesterday.[/p][/quote]It was in Waltham Forest yesterday as stated in the article. Conspiring with criminals. No wonder you are so swift to run the police down at every opportunity.[/p][/quote]Exaggerating again? Where is your evidence that I was conspiring with Criminals? I happened to be on the table next to some people and was seated there by the Waiter. Are you now suggesting that the lovely Restaurants are harbouring them? You should try Portuguese fado singing. It is all doom and gloom, you would be good at it. I heard some recently sung by an elderly Porto lady. It was about how she had fell in love as a teenager with the local Blacksmith and he used to sing to her whilst she sat on his anvil, he had proposed but had to go to war where he was missing in action. She use to look out of the window for years and her hair turned grey. She was effectively left on the shelf. Many years later, she met a fortune teller at the equivilent of a car Boot Sale The fortune teller told her to be more positive and gave her some Magic Cranberry Tinted Glasses to wear, which she did. Her life immediately changed for the better and her hair returned to being black, she sang and danced again. I cannot remember the end but it was a lovely tale of love lost and found.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that by violating the s14 order they were criminals. I see you are deliberately misunderstanding every comment. Save us your attempts at humour. If you choose to associate with criminals and racists then expect to be treated with contempt.[/p][/quote]Maybe there should just be a 'scores on the doors' scheme whereby the council sends round inspectors to see how politically correct the customers in that establishment are, with the notice to serve as a warning to others not to enter if they don't fit the acceptable political profile. Restaurants that pay the correct fee to have a hotline to the town hall to report right wingers could have two stars, with an extra star available to establishnents which pay for bouncers to check for Labour Party membership cards on entry.[/p][/quote]Perhaps that could work in the same fictional world that Cornbeefur inhabits. Having chatted to my neighbour who was at the actual Windmill restaurant on Saturday it appears that if anyone was hearing Portugese songs about magical glasses they must have had a very bad glass of port. Why does it become political correctness when the law is enforced against EDL members? Where do I suggest that anyone than our resident fictional character deserves locking up. If our local Walter Mitty is happy to dine with those breaking the law then he is on very thin ice with regards to criticising the police.[/p][/quote]It ishould not be political correctness to enforce the law. The law should be enforced no matter what the poltical oppinions of the people who break it. What many people seem to be concerned about is an apparent lack of even-handedness or consistency in enforcement as well as pre-emptive actions to prevent people (who may or may not break the law) from merely being offensive. I think quite a few people are also raising their eyebrows at the conduct of the police towards the anti-EDL people, who have consistently defied the law themselves in the name of what they see as their 'right' to appoint themselves as some sort of roaming protest group whose role almost borders on vigilante-ism seeking to enforce 'political correctness'.[/p][/quote]None of which I disagree with or have argued against. So why call it political correctness when I point out that our local fictional character would have been consorting with law breakers. I would have pointed out the very same had he come up with a fanciful tale of marching yesterday. That would seem to suggest that you propose that when the law is enforced one way it is wrong and for another group it is right.[/p][/quote]It is polite to say hello, good morning or good evening to people without asking their history first. It cost nothing to show manners in a Public Place.[/p][/quote]And your public duty when later discovering that they are breaking the law to report that.[/p][/quote]Very true, but how have you assumed that I did not do this?[/p][/quote]I assumed you would be too busy making inappropriate comments on articles where people have tragically lost their lives. http://www.guardian- series.co.uk/news/wf news/10013452.WALTHA MSTOW__Man_stabbed_t o_death/?action=succ ess E17_er
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Cornbeefur says...

It is amazing how the Police can Muster up enough manpower on a banned march where the requirement is to police those who turn up defying the law whilst the main instigators are in another area or some are having a meal locally in one of the areas best kept secrets.
It is amazing how the Police can Muster up enough manpower on a banned march where the requirement is to police those who turn up defying the law whilst the main instigators are in another area or some are having a meal locally in one of the areas best kept secrets. Cornbeefur
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