Calls for council to be investigated over Stow

East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Calls for council to be investigated over Stow Calls for council to be investigated over Stow

CALLS are mounting for Waltham Forest Council to be investigated after it fast-tracked plans to turn Walthamstow Stadium into a housing estate - preventing the government from stepping in to stop it.


Conservative London Mayor Boris Johnson rubbed stamped controversial proposals to build 294 homes at the site last week after initial permission was granted by Labour councillors earlier this year.


But campaigners were clinging to the final hope and belief that the government's secretary of state for communities Eric Pickles would intervene on a planning technicality and scupper the project.


Chingford MP Iain Duncan Smith and Walthamstow MP Stella Creasy both urged residents to write to Mr Pickles, saying he had 21 days to take action before the council formally acknowledged Mr Johnson's decision and issued final planning permission.


But the council then took the step of quickly issuing the paperwork within 48 hours, leaving Mr Pickles powerless to intervene.


Mr Duncan Smith is among those now calling for Whitehall to investigate the council's actions and claims that it is biased in favour of the scheme's developers, housing association London and Quadrant (L&Q).


The council has always strongly denied that it has been anything less than  independent throughout the process.


In a letter to the Walthamstow Stadium Area Residents Association, council leader Cllr Chris Robbins said there had never been any indication that Mr Pickles would intervene.


He said that 48 hours was an "entirely appropriate timescale" to turn around the planning application after Mr Johnson's announcement.


He also said claims by Mr Duncan Smith and Ms Creasy that Mr Pickles had 21 days to intervene were wrong.


Cllr Robbins said: "this is not correct and there is no timescale for any possible call in after the Mayor of London's decision".


But Cllr Matt Davis, leader of the Conservative opposition group at the council, said his group were appalled by the "unprecedented" step.

He said: "It is strange that a council which is not renowned for its quickness in dealing with planning applications can suddenly discover such speed."

The residents association says a judicial review is the only step left now to stop the development. It has instructed solicitors and is looking for funding.

Mr Duncan Smith, who, along with local Conservatives has continued to criticise the decision by their party colleague Mr Johnson, is expected to issue a statement shortly.

The Guardian is awaiting a statement from the government but they said in a letter to residents that the council had acted "extremely quickly" but legally.

The Guardian is awaiting a further comment from the council.

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5:26pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Stow Residents/Community Association says...

The London Borough of Waltham Forest have already acknowledged our courtesy email advising of our intent to take this to Judicial Review.

Solicitors have been instructed and preparation has already commenced on the "Letter before Claim" as required under the Judicial Review protocols.

Courtesy emails have today been sent to the Mayor and Eric Pickles, as due to the information received, we have had no choice but to include both the Mayor and Eric Pickles within the action we are currently taking.

It is hoped that the information within our Letter before Claim will be sufficient to ensure all parties agree to consent to the High Court quashing the decisions made, rather than allowing taxpayer money to be spent on what could be a long and expensive Court Case.
The London Borough of Waltham Forest have already acknowledged our courtesy email advising of our intent to take this to Judicial Review. Solicitors have been instructed and preparation has already commenced on the "Letter before Claim" as required under the Judicial Review protocols. Courtesy emails have today been sent to the Mayor and Eric Pickles, as due to the information received, we have had no choice but to include both the Mayor and Eric Pickles within the action we are currently taking. It is hoped that the information within our Letter before Claim will be sufficient to ensure all parties agree to consent to the High Court quashing the decisions made, rather than allowing taxpayer money to be spent on what could be a long and expensive Court Case. Stow Residents/Community Association

5:36pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Techno3 says...

Has the council named the actual people who took this decision?
Has the council named the actual people who took this decision? Techno3

5:38pm Tue 6 Nov 12

waltham says...

there closing in on the corrupt council- robbins ,pye cant get the pay out yet..

the whole saga was a set up

Council hid document stating 18 million was paid for the land - viability report city hall used the 7 million land value !

loss of tax payer 11 million covered up
there closing in on the corrupt council- robbins ,pye cant get the pay out yet.. the whole saga was a set up Council hid document stating 18 million was paid for the land - viability report city hall used the 7 million land value ! loss of tax payer 11 million covered up waltham

5:48pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Walthamster says...

I love Cllr Robbins saying 48 hours was an "entirely appropriate timescale" to turn around the planning application. Just love it.

You try putting in an enquiry or a Freedom of Information request, and see if you get a response in 48 hours, or 48 days come to that. You'd be lucky! I've never dealt with anyone so openly contemptuous of the public.

Yet when it comes to shafting their own residents, this worthless mob can put on a turn of speed that would outdo a racing greyhound.

An investigation is long overdue. Too bad it would only cover this one example of the council's many financial scandals.
I love Cllr Robbins saying 48 hours was an "entirely appropriate timescale" to turn around the planning application. Just love it. You try putting in an enquiry or a Freedom of Information request, and see if you get a response in 48 hours, or 48 days come to that. You'd be lucky! I've never dealt with anyone so openly contemptuous of the public. Yet when it comes to shafting their own residents, this worthless mob can put on a turn of speed that would outdo a racing greyhound. An investigation is long overdue. Too bad it would only cover this one example of the council's many financial scandals. Walthamster

6:02pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

Like trying to resurrect a dead greyhound on the final bend.

Forget it and move on!

Futile exercise.
Like trying to resurrect a dead greyhound on the final bend. Forget it and move on! Futile exercise. Cornbeefur

6:14pm Tue 6 Nov 12

waltham says...

we need a full investigation into this council it is corrupt and robbins must go

I. have a feeling this is going to be overturned
we need a full investigation into this council it is corrupt and robbins must go I. have a feeling this is going to be overturned waltham

6:15pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Techno3 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Like trying to resurrect a dead greyhound on the final bend.

Forget it and move on!

Futile exercise.
You are Chris Robbins and I claim my £5
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: Like trying to resurrect a dead greyhound on the final bend. Forget it and move on! Futile exercise.[/p][/quote]You are Chris Robbins and I claim my £5 Techno3

6:25pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

waltham wrote:
we need a full investigation into this council it is corrupt and robbins must go

I. have a feeling this is going to be overturned
Is there any 2?

Or, is that it?
[quote][p][bold]waltham[/bold] wrote: we need a full investigation into this council it is corrupt and robbins must go I. have a feeling this is going to be overturned[/p][/quote]Is there any 2? Or, is that it? Cornbeefur

7:19pm Tue 6 Nov 12

bishbosh says...

Someone on this thread must have been bullied at school...why rejoice so much in other peoples bad news and inisistence on being right all the time
Someone on this thread must have been bullied at school...why rejoice so much in other peoples bad news and inisistence on being right all the time bishbosh

7:26pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Ian RS2000 says...

Give it up and lets get these homes built .
Give it up and lets get these homes built . Ian RS2000

7:35pm Tue 6 Nov 12

waltham says...

and your happy losing 22million for the tax payer

shortage at doctors,hospital,sch
ools at crime haven with one entrance

do nothing and this borough is finished

The dog track was the only thing that bought in people from outside the borough
and your happy losing 22million for the tax payer shortage at doctors,hospital,sch ools at crime haven with one entrance do nothing and this borough is finished The dog track was the only thing that bought in people from outside the borough waltham

7:35pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Techno3 says...

Ian RS2000 wrote:
Give it up and lets get these homes built .
'These homes' as you put it, will be a shonky, crime-ridden slum. Conran's should be hanging their heads in shame being involved in such a disgraceful scheme, especially given the anti-democratic methods which are being attempted to impose this on the public.
[quote][p][bold]Ian RS2000[/bold] wrote: Give it up and lets get these homes built .[/p][/quote]'These homes' as you put it, will be a shonky, crime-ridden slum. Conran's should be hanging their heads in shame being involved in such a disgraceful scheme, especially given the anti-democratic methods which are being attempted to impose this on the public. Techno3

9:49pm Tue 6 Nov 12

ruby newbie says...

sadly this is a sign of things to come.....councils will be doing what they want in the future,as people do notv speak up the way they used to,even more so in the london boroughs,and this will be abused.....bring on the investigation.......
.residents of england are desperate to get some sort of control back.
sadly this is a sign of things to come.....councils will be doing what they want in the future,as people do notv speak up the way they used to,even more so in the london boroughs,and this will be abused.....bring on the investigation....... .residents of england are desperate to get some sort of control back. ruby newbie

10:14pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

waltham wrote:
and your happy losing 22million for the tax payer

shortage at doctors,hospital,sch

ools at crime haven with one entrance

do nothing and this borough is finished

The dog track was the only thing that bought in people from outside the borough
What is this 'your happy losing?' he is not losing and neither are you.

This Stadium was built in the 30's and run by the Chandler family for donkeys years and it became nonviable as people did not support it and the fine balance tipped in favour of selling it.

This is of course nothing at all to do with the nostalgia and preservation of the Stow. Most people who are complaining are Nimby's who are fearful of the near on 300 new families that will be moving in, quite a few who will be reliant on benefits that will affect the saleability of their overpriced properties in the vicinity.

People have to live somewhere and this site is a prime target and always was once the Stow passed it's sell by date.

It may be hard cheese but one must move with the times.
[quote][p][bold]waltham[/bold] wrote: and your happy losing 22million for the tax payer shortage at doctors,hospital,sch ools at crime haven with one entrance do nothing and this borough is finished The dog track was the only thing that bought in people from outside the borough[/p][/quote]What is this 'your happy losing?' he is not losing and neither are you. This Stadium was built in the 30's and run by the Chandler family for donkeys years and it became nonviable as people did not support it and the fine balance tipped in favour of selling it. This is of course nothing at all to do with the nostalgia and preservation of the Stow. Most people who are complaining are Nimby's who are fearful of the near on 300 new families that will be moving in, quite a few who will be reliant on benefits that will affect the saleability of their overpriced properties in the vicinity. People have to live somewhere and this site is a prime target and always was once the Stow passed it's sell by date. It may be hard cheese but one must move with the times. Cornbeefur

10:48pm Tue 6 Nov 12

waltham says...

can you explain why the stow never made a loss despite the chandlers taking 10 million out for their personal pensions in the last three years if it was passed its sell buy date ?

This is a story of corruption by L&Q and the council - we need a full public investigation
This is to do with 500 people that could have jobs ,homeless that could have housing built with private money.
The chandlers only sold to builders and kept it from the greyhound industry- it was run down in order to obtain change of use for building

the council did the deal and promised L&Q planning ok - thats why robbiins forced it through

Robbins is corrupt and must go
can you explain why the stow never made a loss despite the chandlers taking 10 million out for their personal pensions in the last three years if it was passed its sell buy date ? This is a story of corruption by L&Q and the council - we need a full public investigation This is to do with 500 people that could have jobs ,homeless that could have housing built with private money. The chandlers only sold to builders and kept it from the greyhound industry- it was run down in order to obtain change of use for building the council did the deal and promised L&Q planning ok - thats why robbiins forced it through Robbins is corrupt and must go waltham

12:21am Wed 7 Nov 12

Trevor 2 says...

waltham wrote:
we need a full investigation into this council it is corrupt and robbins must go

I. have a feeling this is going to be overturned
Do you honestly think ANY investigation will oust the gang of pirates from the big white building on Forest Road? That lot will have covered their tracks so well even Sherlock Holmes wouldn't find the truth!!
[quote][p][bold]waltham[/bold] wrote: we need a full investigation into this council it is corrupt and robbins must go I. have a feeling this is going to be overturned[/p][/quote]Do you honestly think ANY investigation will oust the gang of pirates from the big white building on Forest Road? That lot will have covered their tracks so well even Sherlock Holmes wouldn't find the truth!! Trevor 2

9:19am Wed 7 Nov 12

styler30 says...

waltham forest council = corruption , no doubt the files and paperwork will have been lost due to the asbestos dust and destroyed !!! . Even if you dissagree with dog racing the point is some council members will go to any meens to get their (brown envelope) ie: The stadium , cinema , cpz zones . Just keep using back handed tactics they dont care if they get voted back in by that time the will have earned a bomb and with a cushy job maybe on an advisory role with lets say L&Q
waltham forest council = corruption , no doubt the files and paperwork will have been lost due to the asbestos dust and destroyed !!! . Even if you dissagree with dog racing the point is some council members will go to any meens to get their (brown envelope) ie: The stadium , cinema , cpz zones . Just keep using back handed tactics they dont care if they get voted back in by that time the will have earned a bomb and with a cushy job maybe on an advisory role with lets say L&Q styler30

9:29am Wed 7 Nov 12

Peasemold Grunt-Futtock says...

I am surprised that anyone expected anything better from Robbins & Co.
Tread rough-shod over anyone who disagrees, seems to be the motto.
And look at the total and utter shambles regarding the Arcade site.
Couldn't run a booze up in a brewery.
And by the way, has anyone counted the number of times Robbins has got his smarmy mush in WFM?
I am surprised that anyone expected anything better from Robbins & Co. Tread rough-shod over anyone who disagrees, seems to be the motto. And look at the total and utter shambles regarding the Arcade site. Couldn't run a booze up in a brewery. And by the way, has anyone counted the number of times Robbins has got his smarmy mush in WFM? Peasemold Grunt-Futtock

9:50am Wed 7 Nov 12

Isaythat says...

Sadly, I agree that it is futile to think you can win against any council. But forgetting the stadium for a moment, if in life we take an attitude of "don't bother because its not worth it" we will never achieve anything. So to the association I say "Go for it", if only to make public awareness far wider and encourage many more people to speak out. If you look at the Saville case as an example, not doing so because there is no point, is the wrong decision. It takes strength to fight when the odds are against you and it is that strength which wins against the odds.
We must not lose sight of the issue here. Nothing to do with the type of people who may or may not move in. It is about the activities going on within the council which should be exposed.
Just a word to Cornbeefur, why do you continue to morph into Lord HawHaw? you will not break us, nor will you stop us fighting to make our borough a better place. Have you taken a look at the crime stats in Marylebone recently? or anywhere else for that matter, or do you only pine for Walthamstow? I once mentioned Elephant and Caste and you came back with one of your usual sarcastic remarks saying "we are only concerned with our area". Funny that, considering you say you live in Marylebone now :-). Oh and finally, sorry to upset you, but our properties continue to increase in value - the more diverse it becomes here, the higher the value. People move out of this area not to make money but for a life style. To make money stay as near to London as possible! fact.
Sadly, I agree that it is futile to think you can win against any council. But forgetting the stadium for a moment, if in life we take an attitude of "don't bother because its not worth it" we will never achieve anything. So to the association I say "Go for it", if only to make public awareness far wider and encourage many more people to speak out. If you look at the Saville case as an example, not doing so because there is no point, is the wrong decision. It takes strength to fight when the odds are against you and it is that strength which wins against the odds. We must not lose sight of the issue here. Nothing to do with the type of people who may or may not move in. It is about the activities going on within the council which should be exposed. Just a word to Cornbeefur, why do you continue to morph into Lord HawHaw? you will not break us, nor will you stop us fighting to make our borough a better place. Have you taken a look at the crime stats in Marylebone recently? or anywhere else for that matter, or do you only pine for Walthamstow? I once mentioned Elephant and Caste and you came back with one of your usual sarcastic remarks saying "we are only concerned with our area". Funny that, considering you say you live in Marylebone now :-). Oh and finally, sorry to upset you, but our properties continue to increase in value - the more diverse it becomes here, the higher the value. People move out of this area not to make money but for a life style. To make money stay as near to London as possible! fact. Isaythat

10:44am Wed 7 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

Isaythat wrote:
Sadly, I agree that it is futile to think you can win against any council. But forgetting the stadium for a moment, if in life we take an attitude of "don't bother because its not worth it" we will never achieve anything. So to the association I say "Go for it", if only to make public awareness far wider and encourage many more people to speak out. If you look at the Saville case as an example, not doing so because there is no point, is the wrong decision. It takes strength to fight when the odds are against you and it is that strength which wins against the odds.
We must not lose sight of the issue here. Nothing to do with the type of people who may or may not move in. It is about the activities going on within the council which should be exposed.
Just a word to Cornbeefur, why do you continue to morph into Lord HawHaw? you will not break us, nor will you stop us fighting to make our borough a better place. Have you taken a look at the crime stats in Marylebone recently? or anywhere else for that matter, or do you only pine for Walthamstow? I once mentioned Elephant and Caste and you came back with one of your usual sarcastic remarks saying "we are only concerned with our area". Funny that, considering you say you live in Marylebone now :-). Oh and finally, sorry to upset you, but our properties continue to increase in value - the more diverse it becomes here, the higher the value. People move out of this area not to make money but for a life style. To make money stay as near to London as possible! fact.
I do not own any property. Interesting to note you are driven by money though. You cannot take it with you, you know, enjoy life a little.

Your diatribes are full of assumptions.

I spend more time in Walthamstow than anywhere else.
[quote][p][bold]Isaythat[/bold] wrote: Sadly, I agree that it is futile to think you can win against any council. But forgetting the stadium for a moment, if in life we take an attitude of "don't bother because its not worth it" we will never achieve anything. So to the association I say "Go for it", if only to make public awareness far wider and encourage many more people to speak out. If you look at the Saville case as an example, not doing so because there is no point, is the wrong decision. It takes strength to fight when the odds are against you and it is that strength which wins against the odds. We must not lose sight of the issue here. Nothing to do with the type of people who may or may not move in. It is about the activities going on within the council which should be exposed. Just a word to Cornbeefur, why do you continue to morph into Lord HawHaw? you will not break us, nor will you stop us fighting to make our borough a better place. Have you taken a look at the crime stats in Marylebone recently? or anywhere else for that matter, or do you only pine for Walthamstow? I once mentioned Elephant and Caste and you came back with one of your usual sarcastic remarks saying "we are only concerned with our area". Funny that, considering you say you live in Marylebone now :-). Oh and finally, sorry to upset you, but our properties continue to increase in value - the more diverse it becomes here, the higher the value. People move out of this area not to make money but for a life style. To make money stay as near to London as possible! fact.[/p][/quote]I do not own any property. Interesting to note you are driven by money though. You cannot take it with you, you know, enjoy life a little. Your diatribes are full of assumptions. I spend more time in Walthamstow than anywhere else. Cornbeefur

2:25pm Wed 7 Nov 12

RichieCH says...

I was born in Walthamstow and now I live next to the museum, shortly to become and exhibit I reckon. I read Cornbeefur's comments and see an empty soul filled with bile... sad...
The Stow is an internationally recognised landmark and it is sad to think it is to be consigned to memory. It has given pleasure to generations, not only with dog racing, there used to be stock car racing there and other track events. Yes we live in an ever developing society and change is part of this, but community is the heart of our society, places to meet for pleasure the glue that binds. So many places of entertainment have passed into memory, even in my lifetime; The Palace Theatre, numerous cinemas, public houses, even social clubs like the British Legion had to be moved to make way for housing. If there is a doubt in anyone's mind regarding the legality of the council's premature action - tell them. If there is corruption seek it out and expose it. If Boris did the wrong thing - tell him. I walk past the old Granada and remember being a kid at Saturday Morning pictures, a teenager seeing the Who, taking girlfriends to see a movie, even my now departed wife (bless her), and I see a corrupt church taking residence. Walthamstow was such a nice place to grow up...
I was born in Walthamstow and now I live next to the museum, shortly to become and exhibit I reckon. I read Cornbeefur's comments and see an empty soul filled with bile... sad... The Stow is an internationally recognised landmark and it is sad to think it is to be consigned to memory. It has given pleasure to generations, not only with dog racing, there used to be stock car racing there and other track events. Yes we live in an ever developing society and change is part of this, but community is the heart of our society, places to meet for pleasure the glue that binds. So many places of entertainment have passed into memory, even in my lifetime; The Palace Theatre, numerous cinemas, public houses, even social clubs like the British Legion had to be moved to make way for housing. If there is a doubt in anyone's mind regarding the legality of the council's premature action - tell them. If there is corruption seek it out and expose it. If Boris did the wrong thing - tell him. I walk past the old Granada and remember being a kid at Saturday Morning pictures, a teenager seeing the Who, taking girlfriends to see a movie, even my now departed wife (bless her), and I see a corrupt church taking residence. Walthamstow was such a nice place to grow up... RichieCH

3:18pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

RichieCH wrote:
I was born in Walthamstow and now I live next to the museum, shortly to become and exhibit I reckon. I read Cornbeefur's comments and see an empty soul filled with bile... sad...
The Stow is an internationally recognised landmark and it is sad to think it is to be consigned to memory. It has given pleasure to generations, not only with dog racing, there used to be stock car racing there and other track events. Yes we live in an ever developing society and change is part of this, but community is the heart of our society, places to meet for pleasure the glue that binds. So many places of entertainment have passed into memory, even in my lifetime; The Palace Theatre, numerous cinemas, public houses, even social clubs like the British Legion had to be moved to make way for housing. If there is a doubt in anyone's mind regarding the legality of the council's premature action - tell them. If there is corruption seek it out and expose it. If Boris did the wrong thing - tell him. I walk past the old Granada and remember being a kid at Saturday Morning pictures, a teenager seeing the Who, taking girlfriends to see a movie, even my now departed wife (bless her), and I see a corrupt church taking residence. Walthamstow was such a nice place to grow up...
I was born in Walthamstow when it was a really nice place. I used to go to the Granada on Saturday mornings and sometimes the Dogs on a Saturday night.

We had the Lido at Whipps Cross and Larkswood and Leyton Baths Pools.

The High Street was a thriving place.

You had Police Boxes around the Borough, if you phoned the Police they came promptly. We had Police Stations.

All changed now really, if you cannot see that it has, you must be walking around wearing cranberry Tinted Spectacles.
[quote][p][bold]RichieCH[/bold] wrote: I was born in Walthamstow and now I live next to the museum, shortly to become and exhibit I reckon. I read Cornbeefur's comments and see an empty soul filled with bile... sad... The Stow is an internationally recognised landmark and it is sad to think it is to be consigned to memory. It has given pleasure to generations, not only with dog racing, there used to be stock car racing there and other track events. Yes we live in an ever developing society and change is part of this, but community is the heart of our society, places to meet for pleasure the glue that binds. So many places of entertainment have passed into memory, even in my lifetime; The Palace Theatre, numerous cinemas, public houses, even social clubs like the British Legion had to be moved to make way for housing. If there is a doubt in anyone's mind regarding the legality of the council's premature action - tell them. If there is corruption seek it out and expose it. If Boris did the wrong thing - tell him. I walk past the old Granada and remember being a kid at Saturday Morning pictures, a teenager seeing the Who, taking girlfriends to see a movie, even my now departed wife (bless her), and I see a corrupt church taking residence. Walthamstow was such a nice place to grow up...[/p][/quote]I was born in Walthamstow when it was a really nice place. I used to go to the Granada on Saturday mornings and sometimes the Dogs on a Saturday night. We had the Lido at Whipps Cross and Larkswood and Leyton Baths Pools. The High Street was a thriving place. You had Police Boxes around the Borough, if you phoned the Police they came promptly. We had Police Stations. All changed now really, if you cannot see that it has, you must be walking around wearing cranberry Tinted Spectacles. Cornbeefur

3:41pm Wed 7 Nov 12

warpdog says...

They're well corrupt. My mate's brother works for L&Q and I was at my mate's house (in Walthamstow) when his brother said "I hope you don't mind but I signed something in your name and address stating that you were in favour of our housing plans" my mate was livid. Naturally.
They're well corrupt. My mate's brother works for L&Q and I was at my mate's house (in Walthamstow) when his brother said "I hope you don't mind but I signed something in your name and address stating that you were in favour of our housing plans" my mate was livid. Naturally. warpdog

4:01pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Cornbeefur says...

warpdog wrote:
They're well corrupt. My mate's brother works for L&Q and I was at my mate's house (in Walthamstow) when his brother said "I hope you don't mind but I signed something in your name and address stating that you were in favour of our housing plans" my mate was livid. Naturally.
Go and tell the Police, let us see how livid he was.
[quote][p][bold]warpdog[/bold] wrote: They're well corrupt. My mate's brother works for L&Q and I was at my mate's house (in Walthamstow) when his brother said "I hope you don't mind but I signed something in your name and address stating that you were in favour of our housing plans" my mate was livid. Naturally.[/p][/quote]Go and tell the Police, let us see how livid he was. Cornbeefur

8:11pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Ian RS2000 says...

Techno3 wrote:
Ian RS2000 wrote:
Give it up and lets get these homes built .
'These homes' as you put it, will be a shonky, crime-ridden slum. Conran's should be hanging their heads in shame being involved in such a disgraceful scheme, especially given the anti-democratic methods which are being attempted to impose this on the public.
Well that what you think i want to see homes being built and regeneration to the area
[quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian RS2000[/bold] wrote: Give it up and lets get these homes built .[/p][/quote]'These homes' as you put it, will be a shonky, crime-ridden slum. Conran's should be hanging their heads in shame being involved in such a disgraceful scheme, especially given the anti-democratic methods which are being attempted to impose this on the public.[/p][/quote]Well that what you think i want to see homes being built and regeneration to the area Ian RS2000

10:32am Thu 8 Nov 12

Techno3 says...

Ian RS2000 wrote:
Techno3 wrote:
Ian RS2000 wrote:
Give it up and lets get these homes built .
'These homes' as you put it, will be a shonky, crime-ridden slum. Conran's should be hanging their heads in shame being involved in such a disgraceful scheme, especially given the anti-democratic methods which are being attempted to impose this on the public.
Well that what you think i want to see homes being built and regeneration to the area
Many people accept that some new homes are needed. We all know how many people have already been packed into our overcrowded borough.

If schemes are done correctly and planning processes are democratic and legal , people are not against reasonable improvements and new housing.

There were no significant objections to the regeneration of Hammond Court off Blackhorse Road. In contrast, there are still serious concerns about the illegal development in St James's Street only hundred or so yards away.
[quote][p][bold]Ian RS2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Techno3[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian RS2000[/bold] wrote: Give it up and lets get these homes built .[/p][/quote]'These homes' as you put it, will be a shonky, crime-ridden slum. Conran's should be hanging their heads in shame being involved in such a disgraceful scheme, especially given the anti-democratic methods which are being attempted to impose this on the public.[/p][/quote]Well that what you think i want to see homes being built and regeneration to the area[/p][/quote]Many people accept that some new homes are needed. We all know how many people have already been packed into our overcrowded borough. If schemes are done correctly and planning processes are democratic and legal , people are not against reasonable improvements and new housing. There were no significant objections to the regeneration of Hammond Court off Blackhorse Road. In contrast, there are still serious concerns about the illegal development in St James's Street only hundred or so yards away. Techno3

1:17pm Sun 11 Nov 12

suksri says...

When you are told by a member of the Council that the Stow is finished three months before the planning meeting has been farcically held, When the Council ignore its own residents,Proof that the scheme will make a colossal loss maybe one of the councillors would resign and face the electorate in the ward BUT they would not do it. The offer was made at the meeting but this Council is so spineless and know a massive defeat would follow. Come on face us at the ballot box.
When you are told by a member of the Council that the Stow is finished three months before the planning meeting has been farcically held, When the Council ignore its own residents,Proof that the scheme will make a colossal loss maybe one of the councillors would resign and face the electorate in the ward BUT they would not do it. The offer was made at the meeting but this Council is so spineless and know a massive defeat would follow. Come on face us at the ballot box. suksri

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