Chingford families demand eviction of 'nightmare neighbour'

MP Iain Duncan Smith meets Mel Byrne, children Nathan and Lewis, Wayne Hewitt and Afrim Reka about their nightmare neighbour in Churchill Terrace, Chingford.

MP Iain Duncan Smith meets Mel Byrne, children Nathan and Lewis, Wayne Hewitt and Afrim Reka about their nightmare neighbour in Churchill Terrace, Chingford.

First published in Waltham Forest East London and West Essex Guardian Series: Photograph of the Author by , Senior reporter

Families who claim they have suffered racist abuse, threats of violence and constant loud noise at the hands of their neighbour are demanding action to put an end to their suffering.

People living in a block of flats in Churchill Terrace, Chingford, are calling for Waltham Forest Council to evict a woman who they say has been destroying the community for the last two-and-a-half years.

Many are too scared to confront the tenant, in her 20s, but a group of neighbours held a public meeting with Chingford MP Iain Duncan Smith today as he pledged to help them.

Wayne Hewitt, 34, a self-employed gas engineer, said the woman has made repeated threats to kill him, that she has spat on him as well as abusing him for being black.

The father-of-two said: “I’ve been going mad. The police are round all the time. A couple of nights ago they had to break up a fight she was having outside.

 

“She’s made threats on my life and she's tried kicking in our door in the middle of the night – all for confronting her about her behaviour.”

His partner, 38-year-old Mel Byrne, added: “I feel trapped. She’s a complete nightmare. We welcomed her when she moved in. It’s a close-knit community but since she came she’s been tearing it apart.

“I’m suffering heart palipitations because of the stress. My son Nathan won’t go to bed on his own because he’s so scared – he’s nearly 12.”

The couple claimed police had been due to take her to court over the threats and racist abuse last November, but that the trial was called off when the Met and the Crown Prosecution Service blamed each other for losing the evidence.

Ascham Homes, which manages the property on behalf of the local authority, has told Mr Hewitt they hope to take his neighbour to court in an attempt to evict her in April.

But Afrim Reka, 24, who lives with his parents and sisters on the same floor as the woman, said their complaints should have been been acted upon more quickly.

He said: “It’s so frustrating. We just need someone to help us. The council and police take far too long to act.

“The problems happen all the time. My sisters are late for school because she’s banging on the walls in the middle of the night keeping everyone up.”

Duncan Smith said: “I will let the chief executive of the council know about this straight away. One person can destroy the lives of everyone around them but that should not be allowed to happen.”

The police and council have been approached for comment.

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12:35pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her?

A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge.

She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues.

It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to.
Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her? A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge. She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues. It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to. Cornbeefur
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12:40pm Fri 22 Feb 13

SpursSupporter1 says...

How the hell can Threats to kill be Trivial? You go and move next door too the woman then
How the hell can Threats to kill be Trivial? You go and move next door too the woman then SpursSupporter1
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12:55pm Fri 22 Feb 13

DaveE17 says...

It sounds like this has moved beyond the 'talking reason to the lady' stage; especially as the CPS clearly thought there was enough evidence to prosecute until the evidence was lost. Amongst other claims, the article states that 'the woman has made repeated threats to kill' a man and that 'she has spat on him as well as abusing him for being black'. Where possible, I'm also in favour of conversation and arbitration rather than litigation, but this doesn't seem to be a reasonable or likely path to resolution in this case - unless cornbeefur would like to volunteer his conflict resolution service to those involved in this situation.
It sounds like this has moved beyond the 'talking reason to the lady' stage; especially as the CPS clearly thought there was enough evidence to prosecute until the evidence was lost. Amongst other claims, the article states that 'the woman has made repeated threats to kill' a man and that 'she has spat on him as well as abusing him for being black'. Where possible, I'm also in favour of conversation and arbitration rather than litigation, but this doesn't seem to be a reasonable or likely path to resolution in this case - unless cornbeefur would like to volunteer his conflict resolution service to those involved in this situation. DaveE17
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2:49pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

DaveE17 wrote:
It sounds like this has moved beyond the 'talking reason to the lady' stage; especially as the CPS clearly thought there was enough evidence to prosecute until the evidence was lost. Amongst other claims, the article states that 'the woman has made repeated threats to kill' a man and that 'she has spat on him as well as abusing him for being black'. Where possible, I'm also in favour of conversation and arbitration rather than litigation, but this doesn't seem to be a reasonable or likely path to resolution in this case - unless cornbeefur would like to volunteer his conflict resolution service to those involved in this situation.
There surely must be time to try and reason.

She may have mental health issues or be sick in other ways?

It is no good moving her elsewhere to be a burden to others.

Deal with her here?

This is just Nimbyism again. She may just need friends and support.
[quote][p][bold]DaveE17[/bold] wrote: It sounds like this has moved beyond the 'talking reason to the lady' stage; especially as the CPS clearly thought there was enough evidence to prosecute until the evidence was lost. Amongst other claims, the article states that 'the woman has made repeated threats to kill' a man and that 'she has spat on him as well as abusing him for being black'. Where possible, I'm also in favour of conversation and arbitration rather than litigation, but this doesn't seem to be a reasonable or likely path to resolution in this case - unless cornbeefur would like to volunteer his conflict resolution service to those involved in this situation.[/p][/quote]There surely must be time to try and reason. She may have mental health issues or be sick in other ways? It is no good moving her elsewhere to be a burden to others. Deal with her here? This is just Nimbyism again. She may just need friends and support. Cornbeefur
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3:14pm Fri 22 Feb 13

driftingcowboy says...

We need new updated laws to quickly sort out situations like this one, which should be done in weeks/months and not years. Councils, police, CPS and other agencies spend too much time fannying about over legislation, appeasement, anger management, etc., when what is needed is a short, sharp solution to the problem.

In response to Cornbeefer, I'd suggest you go over there and apply your methodology and see where it gets you!
We need new updated laws to quickly sort out situations like this one, which should be done in weeks/months and not years. Councils, police, CPS and other agencies spend too much time fannying about over legislation, appeasement, anger management, etc., when what is needed is a short, sharp solution to the problem. In response to Cornbeefer, I'd suggest you go over there and apply your methodology and see where it gets you! driftingcowboy
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4:08pm Fri 22 Feb 13

MrAkavet says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
DaveE17 wrote:
It sounds like this has moved beyond the 'talking reason to the lady' stage; especially as the CPS clearly thought there was enough evidence to prosecute until the evidence was lost. Amongst other claims, the article states that 'the woman has made repeated threats to kill' a man and that 'she has spat on him as well as abusing him for being black'. Where possible, I'm also in favour of conversation and arbitration rather than litigation, but this doesn't seem to be a reasonable or likely path to resolution in this case - unless cornbeefur would like to volunteer his conflict resolution service to those involved in this situation.
There surely must be time to try and reason.

She may have mental health issues or be sick in other ways?

It is no good moving her elsewhere to be a burden to others.

Deal with her here?

This is just Nimbyism again. She may just need friends and support.
You really must take off your cranberry tinted spectacles sir and join the real world where people live in fear of such noisy,aggressive anti-social people.

She's not in your back yard so you can pontificate all you like,it doesn't help the poor neighbour's where she is now.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaveE17[/bold] wrote: It sounds like this has moved beyond the 'talking reason to the lady' stage; especially as the CPS clearly thought there was enough evidence to prosecute until the evidence was lost. Amongst other claims, the article states that 'the woman has made repeated threats to kill' a man and that 'she has spat on him as well as abusing him for being black'. Where possible, I'm also in favour of conversation and arbitration rather than litigation, but this doesn't seem to be a reasonable or likely path to resolution in this case - unless cornbeefur would like to volunteer his conflict resolution service to those involved in this situation.[/p][/quote]There surely must be time to try and reason. She may have mental health issues or be sick in other ways? It is no good moving her elsewhere to be a burden to others. Deal with her here? This is just Nimbyism again. She may just need friends and support.[/p][/quote]You really must take off your cranberry tinted spectacles sir and join the real world where people live in fear of such noisy,aggressive anti-social people. She's not in your back yard so you can pontificate all you like,it doesn't help the poor neighbour's where she is now. MrAkavet
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5:38pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Trevor 2 says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her?

A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge.

She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues.

It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to.
It really is wonderful how you manage to come up with some much manure in your comments!
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her? A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge. She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues. It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to.[/p][/quote]It really is wonderful how you manage to come up with some much manure in your comments! Trevor 2
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6:35pm Fri 22 Feb 13

stickmanny says...

Trevor 2 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her?

A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge.

She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues.

It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to.
It really is wonderful how you manage to come up with some much manure in your comments!
It's at least 60% horse****
[quote][p][bold]Trevor 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her? A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge. She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues. It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to.[/p][/quote]It really is wonderful how you manage to come up with some much manure in your comments![/p][/quote]It's at least 60% horse**** stickmanny
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6:37pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Trevor 2 wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her?

A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge.

She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues.

It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to.
It really is wonderful how you manage to come up with some much manure in your comments!
This Lady will no doubt require support wherever she is placed, so assuming that she would be rehoused in the Borough, it will require IDS to intervene again.

Would it not be better to start again, put past problems aside, sit down with the Lady and any support staff she has already over a cup of tea and thrash out the issues?

If the complainants write down their issues and try and get some form of contract set up so the young lady agrees, the problem could be resolved.

If the Complainant Mel and his partner who is having heart palpitations would be a little more tolerant as they would expect people to be with them, the world would be a better place.

It is unclear whether any children are involved here but surely it would be better to deal with this in situ than to move her from place to place. Where had she been before here I wonder?
[quote][p][bold]Trevor 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: Is there no chance of talking reason to the Lady? There are two sides to every story and maybe she feels threatened by shaved and bald heads turning up to confront her? A Social Worker and Angryman Councillor should try and intervene instead of IDS who is not appropriate as he is a Quiet Man who needs to take charge. She is part of the Community and to Pass the Buck elsewhere will not solve her issues. It is good to see IDS making time again for trivial matters when there are far more pressing matters to attend to.[/p][/quote]It really is wonderful how you manage to come up with some much manure in your comments![/p][/quote]This Lady will no doubt require support wherever she is placed, so assuming that she would be rehoused in the Borough, it will require IDS to intervene again. Would it not be better to start again, put past problems aside, sit down with the Lady and any support staff she has already over a cup of tea and thrash out the issues? If the complainants write down their issues and try and get some form of contract set up so the young lady agrees, the problem could be resolved. If the Complainant Mel and his partner who is having heart palpitations would be a little more tolerant as they would expect people to be with them, the world would be a better place. It is unclear whether any children are involved here but surely it would be better to deal with this in situ than to move her from place to place. Where had she been before here I wonder? Cornbeefur
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6:49pm Fri 22 Feb 13

moanalone says...

I cannot believe this matter being aloud to go on for such a long time. Whatever happened to the council being able to evict such a low life who obviously needs more than a cup of tea, more like a shot in her arm and taken to a padded room where she can shout all she likes.
I cannot believe this matter being aloud to go on for such a long time. Whatever happened to the council being able to evict such a low life who obviously needs more than a cup of tea, more like a shot in her arm and taken to a padded room where she can shout all she likes. moanalone
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7:24pm Fri 22 Feb 13

TTMAN says...

Smack up the ****. That should sort it. Stocks top of the Mount, no shortage of rotting cabbage chuckers I am sure.
Smack up the ****. That should sort it. Stocks top of the Mount, no shortage of rotting cabbage chuckers I am sure. TTMAN
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7:26pm Fri 22 Feb 13

TTMAN says...

**** = female dog
**** = female dog TTMAN
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7:41pm Fri 22 Feb 13

moanalone says...

To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around.
To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around. moanalone
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11:50pm Fri 22 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

moanalone wrote:
To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around.
Let us hope (God forbid) that you ever end up in such a predicament?

It is easier to love than to hate.

Who knows what this lady has had to endure in her life?
[quote][p][bold]moanalone[/bold] wrote: To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around.[/p][/quote]Let us hope (God forbid) that you ever end up in such a predicament? It is easier to love than to hate. Who knows what this lady has had to endure in her life? Cornbeefur
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6:47am Sat 23 Feb 13

moanalone says...

Cornbeefur wrote:
moanalone wrote:
To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around.
Let us hope (God forbid) that you ever end up in such a predicament?

It is easier to love than to hate.

Who knows what this lady has had to endure in her life?
Having had a neighbour from hell, I know full well what these people are going through, so I fully support them in their case to evict such a person, love and support went out the door in the first few months for these people. If your so full of love, why don't you take the troubled girl in, and lay rest to this nightmare for the neighbours.
[quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanalone[/bold] wrote: To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around.[/p][/quote]Let us hope (God forbid) that you ever end up in such a predicament? It is easier to love than to hate. Who knows what this lady has had to endure in her life?[/p][/quote]Having had a neighbour from hell, I know full well what these people are going through, so I fully support them in their case to evict such a person, love and support went out the door in the first few months for these people. If your so full of love, why don't you take the troubled girl in, and lay rest to this nightmare for the neighbours. moanalone
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11:52am Sat 23 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

moanalone wrote:
Cornbeefur wrote:
moanalone wrote:
To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around.
Let us hope (God forbid) that you ever end up in such a predicament?

It is easier to love than to hate.

Who knows what this lady has had to endure in her life?
Having had a neighbour from hell, I know full well what these people are going through, so I fully support them in their case to evict such a person, love and support went out the door in the first few months for these people. If your so full of love, why don't you take the troubled girl in, and lay rest to this nightmare for the neighbours.
This is not about me adopting her as I have nothing to do with the young lady.

She is a constituent of IDS and he should maybe write to her and invite her into his surgery to establish why she is behaving so.

Maybe she is being tormented or is ravaged through drink or drugs and needs assistance from the authorities.

I urge all those concerned not to pass the buck but to assist her as part of the community and to show some respect , tolerance and spirit.
[quote][p][bold]moanalone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cornbeefur[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moanalone[/bold] wrote: To think that there's a line of a thousand and more waiting on the housing list who would be as quiet as a mouse yet the borough cannot tame this cat. Maybe the neighbours would have more help from the RSPCA and a noose on a pole and drag her out. OOO it makes my blood boil that people like her don't realise how lucky they are, yet they want to bring damanation on all around.[/p][/quote]Let us hope (God forbid) that you ever end up in such a predicament? It is easier to love than to hate. Who knows what this lady has had to endure in her life?[/p][/quote]Having had a neighbour from hell, I know full well what these people are going through, so I fully support them in their case to evict such a person, love and support went out the door in the first few months for these people. If your so full of love, why don't you take the troubled girl in, and lay rest to this nightmare for the neighbours.[/p][/quote]This is not about me adopting her as I have nothing to do with the young lady. She is a constituent of IDS and he should maybe write to her and invite her into his surgery to establish why she is behaving so. Maybe she is being tormented or is ravaged through drink or drugs and needs assistance from the authorities. I urge all those concerned not to pass the buck but to assist her as part of the community and to show some respect , tolerance and spirit. Cornbeefur
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2:21pm Sat 23 Feb 13

Helen, Walthamstow says...

I would like to think that you are merely being provocative, CB. If not, and you really believe what you are writing, it suggests you are living in cloud- cuckoo land.

Whatever her problems, she has been disrupting her neighbours' lives for two-and-a-half years. The police and the landlords have been involved, but she has not demonstrated any willingness to deal with whatever her issues are.

If you seriously think she will be willing to sit down with either her neighbours or IDS now to talk through her problems, co-operate with them and accept help, you are really are a dreamer.

The people living in this block are entitled to a life without her banging on walls and abusing them. Having at one stage suffered at the hands of a neighbour who made our lives a misery - he was eventually committed after hammering down his gas pipes and threatening to blow us all up - my sympathies lie with them. Her problems, whatever they are, should not be their problems, since she has rejected all pleas to moderate her behaviour.
I would like to think that you are merely being provocative, CB. If not, and you really believe what you are writing, it suggests you are living in cloud- cuckoo land. Whatever her problems, she has been disrupting her neighbours' lives for two-and-a-half years. The police and the landlords have been involved, but she has not demonstrated any willingness to deal with whatever her issues are. If you seriously think she will be willing to sit down with either her neighbours or IDS now to talk through her problems, co-operate with them and accept help, you are really are a dreamer. The people living in this block are entitled to a life without her banging on walls and abusing them. Having at one stage suffered at the hands of a neighbour who made our lives a misery - he was eventually committed after hammering down his gas pipes and threatening to blow us all up - my sympathies lie with them. Her problems, whatever they are, should not be their problems, since she has rejected all pleas to moderate her behaviour. Helen, Walthamstow
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3:58pm Sat 23 Feb 13

myopinioncounts says...

"Care in the community'? How many people who need to be in secure accommodation have been released under the this cosy sounding title?
"Care in the community'? How many people who need to be in secure accommodation have been released under the this cosy sounding title? myopinioncounts
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5:50pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

If IDS can sort this if he tries a bit harder.

This poor girl needs another chance before she is shoved elsewhere.
If IDS can sort this if he tries a bit harder. This poor girl needs another chance before she is shoved elsewhere. Cornbeefur
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6:10pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Isaythat says...

crbfr, you are taking the view that the report is inaccurate. Where is your evidence in making assumptions that she is the innocent party in this? We have to assume the report is factual and with that in mind, they have tried many options to deal with this woman, to no avail. In their desperation to live a normal life without fear of an unbalanced neighbour waking them in the middle of the night, or when they come and go from their homes, they have involved IDS. I hope they get the result they deserve, which is to live in peace in their own home. If you are right and the woman does have mental health issues, then I hope she gets the help she needs too, but not at the detriment of her long suffering neighbours.
crbfr, you are taking the view that the report is inaccurate. Where is your evidence in making assumptions that she is the innocent party in this? We have to assume the report is factual and with that in mind, they have tried many options to deal with this woman, to no avail. In their desperation to live a normal life without fear of an unbalanced neighbour waking them in the middle of the night, or when they come and go from their homes, they have involved IDS. I hope they get the result they deserve, which is to live in peace in their own home. If you are right and the woman does have mental health issues, then I hope she gets the help she needs too, but not at the detriment of her long suffering neighbours. Isaythat
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7:12pm Sun 24 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

Isaythat wrote:
crbfr, you are taking the view that the report is inaccurate. Where is your evidence in making assumptions that she is the innocent party in this? We have to assume the report is factual and with that in mind, they have tried many options to deal with this woman, to no avail. In their desperation to live a normal life without fear of an unbalanced neighbour waking them in the middle of the night, or when they come and go from their homes, they have involved IDS. I hope they get the result they deserve, which is to live in peace in their own home. If you are right and the woman does have mental health issues, then I hope she gets the help she needs too, but not at the detriment of her long suffering neighbours.
There are two sides to every story.

I am sure that you would like a fair hearing?

Why? Do you suggest moving her on?

The problem becomes someone elses
[quote][p][bold]Isaythat[/bold] wrote: crbfr, you are taking the view that the report is inaccurate. Where is your evidence in making assumptions that she is the innocent party in this? We have to assume the report is factual and with that in mind, they have tried many options to deal with this woman, to no avail. In their desperation to live a normal life without fear of an unbalanced neighbour waking them in the middle of the night, or when they come and go from their homes, they have involved IDS. I hope they get the result they deserve, which is to live in peace in their own home. If you are right and the woman does have mental health issues, then I hope she gets the help she needs too, but not at the detriment of her long suffering neighbours.[/p][/quote]There are two sides to every story. I am sure that you would like a fair hearing? Why? Do you suggest moving her on? The problem becomes someone elses Cornbeefur
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2:47pm Mon 25 Feb 13

red37red says...

Ascham Homes you must be joking
Ascham Homes you must be joking red37red
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1:02pm Tue 26 Feb 13

I.Ride says...

chuck her out on the street, silly **** she dosnt pay for anything... So dont give her anything!
chuck her out on the street, silly **** she dosnt pay for anything... So dont give her anything! I.Ride
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1:35pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

I.Ride wrote:
chuck her out on the street, silly **** she dosnt pay for anything... So dont give her anything!
How do you know? Are you related?

You sound as bad as her.
[quote][p][bold]I.Ride[/bold] wrote: chuck her out on the street, silly **** she dosnt pay for anything... So dont give her anything![/p][/quote]How do you know? Are you related? You sound as bad as her. Cornbeefur
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1:53pm Tue 26 Feb 13

royster40 says...

There's no excuse for racist abuse and no room for it in our Borough or anywhere else. This person needs to be in an institution.
There's no excuse for racist abuse and no room for it in our Borough or anywhere else. This person needs to be in an institution. royster40
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3:55pm Tue 26 Feb 13

Cornbeefur says...

royster40 wrote:
There's no excuse for racist abuse and no room for it in our Borough or anywhere else. This person needs to be in an institution.
Which Institution do you suggest? Are there any left?
[quote][p][bold]royster40[/bold] wrote: There's no excuse for racist abuse and no room for it in our Borough or anywhere else. This person needs to be in an institution.[/p][/quote]Which Institution do you suggest? Are there any left? Cornbeefur
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3:57pm Tue 26 Feb 13

royster40 says...

By the sounds of her behaviour..........H
olloway!
By the sounds of her behaviour..........H olloway! royster40
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4:32pm Tue 26 Feb 13

royster40 says...

Prison is an institution and anyway why don't you get a life!! Instead of all day everyday commenting on all the stories in the Guardian!! No one wants to hear your nonsense judging by the replies you get!!
Prison is an institution and anyway why don't you get a life!! Instead of all day everyday commenting on all the stories in the Guardian!! No one wants to hear your nonsense judging by the replies you get!! royster40
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11:09am Wed 27 Feb 13

tjm01 says...

royster40 wrote:
Prison is an institution and anyway why don't you get a life!! Instead of all day everyday commenting on all the stories in the Guardian!! No one wants to hear your nonsense judging by the replies you get!!
Hear, hear,hear
[quote][p][bold]royster40[/bold] wrote: Prison is an institution and anyway why don't you get a life!! Instead of all day everyday commenting on all the stories in the Guardian!! No one wants to hear your nonsense judging by the replies you get!![/p][/quote]Hear, hear,hear tjm01
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5:19pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Cheesecake24 says...

Sorry but i support this family 100%! Fair enough this lady may well be mentally ill but thats not this families problem? Why should they have to put up with her racial abuse and threats? I'm pretty sure if it was the other way round, people would be quick to make comments! What about the children? 12years old and the poor boy wont even go to bed on his own. They definitely should not be witnessing this! I feel so sorry for the family. They even gave the woman a chance before and welcomed her. So so unfair

If the council knew she has a mental illness, why was she allowed in an environment full of young children? If she needs help then she should have someone come in every day and make sure shes ok and taking medication to keep her calm. Maybe that way she wont be wasting police time on something which can be prevented
Sorry but i support this family 100%! Fair enough this lady may well be mentally ill but thats not this families problem? Why should they have to put up with her racial abuse and threats? I'm pretty sure if it was the other way round, people would be quick to make comments! What about the children? 12years old and the poor boy wont even go to bed on his own. They definitely should not be witnessing this! I feel so sorry for the family. They even gave the woman a chance before and welcomed her. So so unfair If the council knew she has a mental illness, why was she allowed in an environment full of young children? If she needs help then she should have someone come in every day and make sure shes ok and taking medication to keep her calm. Maybe that way she wont be wasting police time on something which can be prevented Cheesecake24
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7:21am Thu 7 Mar 13

pan says...

Everyone has the right to live in a peaceful environment without fear of threats from neighbours, in an ideal world.

This sadly is not always the case and can lead to a lot of stress and heartache when neighbours do not get on.

In our towns and communities there are often people or groups who do not fit into the surrounding community vision yet we have to tolerate them.

Not so far away from here there are areas where people do not view western ideals as acceptable and wish to change the community to their ways and we have to tolerate them. They have harassed, protested and organised themselves into militant groups yet we are told to tolerate and accept differences.

There are areas with gangs and anti social behaviour that make peoples life hell and there are areas of pensioners that might not enjoy the noise of young families.

The problem here is the trend towards this labelling and establishment of micro communities and the misunderstanding of what communities are. We are one big community and as such we have no option but to tolerate all views within our society.

To use view points such as racism as justification to evict someone from their home is a dangerous attitude to take. It is like going back to when people might have opposed ethnic minorities moving into their street. The mentality and mindset is the same, I am surprised to see it on here.

If this woman is a genuine nuisance because of here behaviour then that is a different case and the duty of the landlord to deal with.

What next? evict people because of incompatible religions or cultural difference?

This is a very totalitarian outlook and the product of the nanny state.
Everyone has the right to live in a peaceful environment without fear of threats from neighbours, in an ideal world. This sadly is not always the case and can lead to a lot of stress and heartache when neighbours do not get on. In our towns and communities there are often people or groups who do not fit into the surrounding community vision yet we have to tolerate them. Not so far away from here there are areas where people do not view western ideals as acceptable and wish to change the community to their ways and we have to tolerate them. They have harassed, protested and organised themselves into militant groups yet we are told to tolerate and accept differences. There are areas with gangs and anti social behaviour that make peoples life hell and there are areas of pensioners that might not enjoy the noise of young families. The problem here is the trend towards this labelling and establishment of micro communities and the misunderstanding of what communities are. We are one big community and as such we have no option but to tolerate all views within our society. To use view points such as racism as justification to evict someone from their home is a dangerous attitude to take. It is like going back to when people might have opposed ethnic minorities moving into their street. The mentality and mindset is the same, I am surprised to see it on here. If this woman is a genuine nuisance because of here behaviour then that is a different case and the duty of the landlord to deal with. What next? evict people because of incompatible religions or cultural difference? This is a very totalitarian outlook and the product of the nanny state. pan
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11:12am Fri 8 Mar 13

Interestedfriend says...

There is nothing worse than living next door to a noisy neighbour. I did for two years before my neighbour's son moved out, but although we tried to ask nicely for the noise levels to be reduced, we were always ignored. However, because we own our own home, we could do nothing. The council did nothing to support us, we just had to live with it and it was sheer misery!
There is nothing worse than living next door to a noisy neighbour. I did for two years before my neighbour's son moved out, but although we tried to ask nicely for the noise levels to be reduced, we were always ignored. However, because we own our own home, we could do nothing. The council did nothing to support us, we just had to live with it and it was sheer misery! Interestedfriend
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