LEYTON: Mosque elections delayed as 'women excluded' (From East London and West Essex Guardian Series)

Why hadn't Ch Supt Mark Benbow noticed the inherent sexism in the system he was supposed to be overseeing, I wonder.

If that was a golf club, members would be hauled before the courts.

I could imagine a WPC being told that she could not vote in a Police Union Election.

Did not realise we had shiria law in Leyton

Why is the Borough Commander ignoring this sexism.

It would be impossible for a WPC to vote in an election, in the scenario painted by F-G in the last item, for a WPC whether a member of the Met or City police forces does not now exist and has not done so for many years. Women were fully integrated into each of those police forces in the last century and rank equally alongside men with the title of police officer. They are highly regarded as is exemplified by their front-line role illustrated every day of the year, a situation which does not yet apply to women serving in many units of the British armed forces.

Redfox wrote:
It would be impossible for a WPC to vote in an election, in the scenario painted by F-G in the last item, for a WPC whether a member of the Met or City police forces does not now exist and has not done so for many years. Women were fully integrated into each of those police forces in the last century and rank equally alongside men with the title of police officer. They are highly regarded as is exemplified by their front-line role illustrated every day of the year, a situation which does not yet apply to women serving in many units of the British armed forces.

Are you going to the Barbers today for some hair splitting?

I was merely expressing an analogy.

The Mosques, unlike the Police as you have noted, do not operate
within modern Law and do not encompass natural progression.

They seem to act as though they are still in medieval days.

Even golf clubs have been forced to move with the times.

It is a massive hurdle to climb for Muslims to treat woman as equals and everyone knows that it is a sensitive issue.

Fresh Gravee wrote:

Redfox wrote: It would be impossible for a WPC to vote in an election, in the scenario painted by F-G in the last item, for a WPC whether a member of the Met or City police forces does not now exist and has not done so for many years. Women were fully integrated into each of those police forces in the last century and rank equally alongside men with the title of police officer. They are highly regarded as is exemplified by their front-line role illustrated every day of the year, a situation which does not yet apply to women serving in many units of the British armed forces.

Are you going to the Barbers today for some hair splitting? I was merely expressing an analogy. The Mosques, unlike the Police as you have noted, do not operate within modern Law and do not encompass natural progression. They seem to act as though they are still in medieval days. Even golf clubs have been forced to move with the times. It is a massive hurdle to climb for Muslims to treat woman as equals and everyone knows that it is a sensitive issue.

Everyone seems to know except Mr Benbow apparently. Its all very uncharacteristic.

When it's in his interest I am sure he can put on the tuxedo and go to dinners in order to 'talk the equal opportunities talk' with his political friends in the Labour party till the cows come home. But for some reason when talking to Muslims he failed to notice the unfairness in ignoring muslim females who are equally affected as men by the serious governance issues he's supposed to have been sorting out.

It's one of those occasions where you wouldn't want to join a club that WOULDN'T have you as a member.

They take every opportunity to play the race card but when it comes to excluding 50% of the human race they are quite happy to do it. Definitely a club you wouldn't want to join. Women in this country have had the vote since 1928 - if you are living in this country then you abide by our laws

It would be interesting to know if Mr. Benbow's involvement is ex gratia or at the public expense.

Apart from the obvious problems I might have win the anachronistic and unfair practices which are well covered by others above. I find it worrying that these are the people who, I suspect exert a great deal of influence over who is selected and elected to be councillors in Labour and Liberal Democrat wards in Walthamstow, Leyton and Leytonstone, therefore, in one way, running the borough.

What I dont get about this club is how all the members seem to get friday off work!
I asked my boss for friday off to go to the club and he just laughed.

Techno2 wrote:

Fresh Gravee wrote:

Redfox wrote: It would be impossible for a WPC to vote in an election, in the scenario painted by F-G in the last item, for a WPC whether a member of the Met or City police forces does not now exist and has not done so for many years. Women were fully integrated into each of those police forces in the last century and rank equally alongside men with the title of police officer. They are highly regarded as is exemplified by their front-line role illustrated every day of the year, a situation which does not yet apply to women serving in many units of the British armed forces.

Are you going to the Barbers today for some hair splitting? I was merely expressing an analogy. The Mosques, unlike the Police as you have noted, do not operate within modern Law and do not encompass natural progression. They seem to act as though they are still in medieval days. Even golf clubs have been forced to move with the times. It is a massive hurdle to climb for Muslims to treat woman as equals and everyone knows that it is a sensitive issue.

Everyone seems to know except Mr Benbow apparently. Its all very uncharacteristic.

When it's in his interest I am sure he can put on the tuxedo and go to dinners in order to 'talk the equal opportunities talk' with his political friends in the Labour party till the cows come home. But for some reason when talking to Muslims he failed to notice the unfairness in ignoring muslim females who are equally affected as men by the serious governance issues he's supposed to have been sorting out.

If there was a club within his station, even a snooker club, that excluded wpc's (well hows that for an example? They call them all PC's now not WPC's)
The offending Plod's would be out on their ear. They get away with murder in the name of Islam.

“I just wish these women had woken up six weeks earlier so that we could have entertained them then.”

That attitude says it all really. "Those silly women should have gotten their heads out of the clouds and seen us discriminating against them weeks ago!"

Walthamstow noob wrote:
“I just wish these women had woken up six weeks earlier so that we could have entertained them then.” That attitude says it all really. "Those silly women should have gotten their heads out of the clouds and seen us discriminating against them weeks ago!"

Should have seen US discriminating against them week ago.
They should not have had to wake up six weeks ago becasue,
YOU SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM FULL STOP.
This is a country where women have fought very hard for their say to matter, if they or you don't respect this then you should really assess if this country is the right place for you to be living.

Just to clarify in case you were directing that at me, as a male (who avoids organised religion at all costs) I find their attitude abhorrent.I was merely mocking their pathetic attempt to blame the women rather than themselves.

Sorry about that it was the way you worded it. It sounded like you were sticking up for them.

Please do accept my apologies

No harm done, you're right, I could have worded it better.
:-)

Walthamstow noob wrote:
No harm done, you're right, I could have worded it better. :-)

No, I think you worded it just fine and that enna just didn't get your point.

You are very chivalrous though for letting her think you were in the wrong when it was her.