LEYTONSTONE: "Let's discuss improving ALL our town centres" says Robbins

COUNCIL leader Chris Robbins says he wants there to be a“broad discussion” about the future of all of the borough's town centres, following Conservative calls to scrap Leytonstone's dreaded one-way system.

Cllr Robbin said: “We need to look at what we want to get from our town centres, in terms of shoppers, families and children.

“It is a debate which needs to take place sooner rather than later and we will put together a timeline for this to take place.

“There is the potential for some radical ideas.”

Cllr Robbins said he did not know whether getting rid of the one-way system in Leytonstone would be desriable or feasible, but is willing to talk about all possibilities.

Deputy leader, Lib Dem John Macklin, said he too would welcome a debate on the issue.

He said: “There's an issue travelling in the Leytonstone area, I use public transport and you can be sat on a bus for a long time on the High Road.

“I do remember it not being particularly good even before the one-way system was put in though..

Cllrs Robbins and Macklin were speaking in response to a call from Conservative councillor and Leyton prospective parliamentary candidate Ed Northover for a debate on the future of Leytonstone.

Cllr Northover believes making the High Road two-way and pedestrianising Church Lane could regenerate the town centre and make it more attractive to visitors by creating a “cafe culture.”

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1:19pm Tue 6 Oct 09

jef costello says...

What's your point Winn Maxett? Leytonstone is a great deal more pleasant than many other places in East London - and particularly in Waltham Forest.
What's your point Winn Maxett? Leytonstone is a great deal more pleasant than many other places in East London - and particularly in Waltham Forest. jef costello

1:49pm Tue 6 Oct 09

Janet1 says...

We do need debate about our town centres, which are being disastrously run down by the present council. But it has to be a real debate - not one of Waltham Forest council's usual sham 'consultations'.

In Walthamstow, we've had a series of meaningless 'consultations', all leading to nothing. We don't want any more people who know nothing about the area paid a fortune to come up with a set of glossily produced plans that we're then supposed to vote on. The votes are then ignored.

We need the council to ask people for their views (not their votes on two or three equally unwanted and impractical plans drawn up by outside consultants).

And most importantly, we then need the council to do what we ask them to do.
We do need debate about our town centres, which are being disastrously run down by the present council. But it has to be a real debate - not one of Waltham Forest council's usual sham 'consultations'. In Walthamstow, we've had a series of meaningless 'consultations', all leading to nothing. We don't want any more people who know nothing about the area paid a fortune to come up with a set of glossily produced plans that we're then supposed to vote on. The votes are then ignored. We need the council to ask people for their views (not their votes on two or three equally unwanted and impractical plans drawn up by outside consultants). And most importantly, we then need the council to do what we ask them to do. Janet1

3:37pm Tue 6 Oct 09

amanda27 says...

Leytonstone high road has serious congestion problems and I have had experience of it myself. The one way section has caused problems from day one and should be reviewed – unfortunately this mistake has cost us the tax payer a considerable amount. Hence the need for robust appraisal and consultation into any redevelopment. I do hope that the Arcade site is not the next costly mistake the council makes.
Cllr Chris Robbin wants to look at what we want to get from our town centres. That is a surprise. Well Chris since you’re asking – I do not want a pool from my town centre and I do not want the added congestion caused by a pool in my town centre. It would be great if Cllr Chris Robbin were to allow a debate on the subject of town centres; from my understanding his oppositions have been attempting this for some time.

Leytonstone high road has serious congestion problems and I have had experience of it myself. The one way section has caused problems from day one and should be reviewed – unfortunately this mistake has cost us the tax payer a considerable amount. Hence the need for robust appraisal and consultation into any redevelopment. I do hope that the Arcade site is not the next costly mistake the council makes. Cllr Chris Robbin wants to look at what we want to get from our town centres. That is a surprise. Well Chris since you’re asking – I do not want a pool from my town centre and I do not want the added congestion caused by a pool in my town centre. It would be great if Cllr Chris Robbin were to allow a debate on the subject of town centres; from my understanding his oppositions have been attempting this for some time. amanda27

5:29pm Tue 6 Oct 09

Touchwood says...

'Robbing Robbins' and 'Scruffy Schoolboy Macklin' spouting **** again!!
'Robbing Robbins' and 'Scruffy Schoolboy Macklin' spouting **** again!! Touchwood

11:24pm Tue 6 Oct 09

mdj says...

'“It is a debate which needs to take place sooner rather than later and we will put together a timeline for this to take place."
What a great idea! They've only been in power for twenty-odd years. The sighting of a Tory in Leytonstone seems to have had a powerful laxative effect.
But I think we need more than cafes: we need activities that make the money before we provide more places to spend it. How much coffee can the human frame stand?
The through road makes Leytonstone an economic cul-de -sac: it needs some specific 'draw' to make it attractive, cf. the Churchill Theatre in Bromley, or a cluster of small music venues, which we have in embryo already.
'“It is a debate which needs to take place sooner rather than later and we will put together a timeline for this to take place." What a great idea! They've only been in power for twenty-odd years. The sighting of a Tory in Leytonstone seems to have had a powerful laxative effect. But I think we need more than cafes: we need activities that make the money before we provide more places to spend it. How much coffee can the human frame stand? The through road makes Leytonstone an economic cul-de -sac: it needs some specific 'draw' to make it attractive, cf. the Churchill Theatre in Bromley, or a cluster of small music venues, which we have in embryo already. mdj

9:46am Wed 7 Oct 09

The guv says...

This debate should be dealt with in detail and not the usual minor discussion, This event should be a mass debate.
This debate should be dealt with in detail and not the usual minor discussion, This event should be a mass debate. The guv

10:08am Wed 7 Oct 09

Silent Majority 2009 says...

Why do politicians believe they can influence Town Centres? - only businesses can do that. Walthamstow is waiting for Sainsbury to start the regeneration by moving to the South Grove site. Leytonstone needs a decent tenant for the old Woolworth store. Tesco will be changing Highams Park. What have the council done for the thriving shops of Chingford? Stop kidding us that you have any power over these businesses. Tottenham Hale and Stratford will determine the fate of Walthamstow unless businesses decide they want to develop something different in Waltham Forest. The only way forward is to hope small entrenpreneurs come forward with ideas different from council officers. Waltham Forest's future lies in it offering something different to Tottenham Hale, Stratford and the West End.
Why do politicians believe they can influence Town Centres? - only businesses can do that. Walthamstow is waiting for Sainsbury to start the regeneration by moving to the South Grove site. Leytonstone needs a decent tenant for the old Woolworth store. Tesco will be changing Highams Park. What have the council done for the thriving shops of Chingford? Stop kidding us that you have any power over these businesses. Tottenham Hale and Stratford will determine the fate of Walthamstow unless businesses decide they want to develop something different in Waltham Forest. The only way forward is to hope small entrenpreneurs come forward with ideas different from council officers. Waltham Forest's future lies in it offering something different to Tottenham Hale, Stratford and the West End. Silent Majority 2009

11:46pm Wed 7 Oct 09

livedheretoolong says...

Strange that Chris Robbins, should need to ask for a discussion on the merits of the Leytonstone one way system. As local cllr for the Grove Green ward he should know better than anyone that it has been a complete disaster from the beginning.
We need radical change so I suggest that Labour admits that it has made a big (and very costly) mistake on this one.
Alternatively, another radical idea would be for all traditional labour supporters (like myself) to vote against them at the next election so that they get the message loud and clear.
Strange that Chris Robbins, should need to ask for a discussion on the merits of the Leytonstone one way system. As local cllr for the Grove Green ward he should know better than anyone that it has been a complete disaster from the beginning. We need radical change so I suggest that Labour admits that it has made a big (and very costly) mistake on this one. Alternatively, another radical idea would be for all traditional labour supporters (like myself) to vote against them at the next election so that they get the message loud and clear. livedheretoolong

2:11pm Thu 8 Oct 09

lillybet1 says...

The council of the LBWF should be looking after the existing shop owners and stall holders that make Walthamstow Market what it is. I recently spoke to a shop owner who pays in excess of £4,000.00 per year council tax but is still charged £2.00 per bag to dispose of rubbish. This is a hairdresser so the rubbish disposed of there does not encourage the rats that run around our market these days. Why should they have to pay for this facility shoud it not be included in the rate they pay. Thanks to them they are making the market what it is. I have been going down the market since I was a baby with my mother and father, worked on the market for years and it has so gone down. Improve on the ones you have, not the ones for the future. Once they are improved then look forward. New shops bring new business and new jobs but with rates and rules like this it puts people off starting new business within this area.
The council of the LBWF should be looking after the existing shop owners and stall holders that make Walthamstow Market what it is. I recently spoke to a shop owner who pays in excess of £4,000.00 per year council tax but is still charged £2.00 per bag to dispose of rubbish. This is a hairdresser so the rubbish disposed of there does not encourage the rats that run around our market these days. Why should they have to pay for this facility shoud it not be included in the rate they pay. Thanks to them they are making the market what it is. I have been going down the market since I was a baby with my mother and father, worked on the market for years and it has so gone down. Improve on the ones you have, not the ones for the future. Once they are improved then look forward. New shops bring new business and new jobs but with rates and rules like this it puts people off starting new business within this area. lillybet1

4:25pm Thu 8 Oct 09

karola says...

What we need in Leytonstone are small independent thriving shops, along the line of what Wanstead has, not dozens of takeaways. I suspect because of the congestion and lack of parking it does not really attract any businesses to open up here.
On the subject of parking, why is it not free during the day between 10-4 as there is no danger of commuter parking then and would encourage more people to shop here?
What we need in Leytonstone are small independent thriving shops, along the line of what Wanstead has, not dozens of takeaways. I suspect because of the congestion and lack of parking it does not really attract any businesses to open up here. On the subject of parking, why is it not free during the day between 10-4 as there is no danger of commuter parking then and would encourage more people to shop here? karola

6:43pm Fri 9 Oct 09

jef costello says...

Leytonstone's Woolies site would make a great set of units for artists priced out of Shoreditch and Hoxton. The artists were the prime movers in the regeneration of those two areas. No doubt it'll end up a Peacocks, Blue Inc or similar.
Leytonstone's Woolies site would make a great set of units for artists priced out of Shoreditch and Hoxton. The artists were the prime movers in the regeneration of those two areas. No doubt it'll end up a Peacocks, Blue Inc or similar. jef costello

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