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WALTHAM FOREST: Councillors vote for action against airport expansion
11:19pm Thursday 22nd October 2009
COUNCILLORS have agreed to take action to oppose the expansion of London City Airport.
At a full council meeting this evening, Liberal Democrat Farooq Qureshi put forward a motion acknowledging residents' concern about the expansion of the airport and the increase in noise it will create for residents as well as the environmental impact.
The motion also pledges that on completion of the investigation, the council will take action by writing to the Mayor of Newham condemning its decision to allow expansion and to consider legal action in relation to the expansion or flight path changes.
Cllr Qureshi said: “We welcome a cross-party consensus on this. Council's have a pivotal role to play in cutting carbon emissions. This problem will not go away. It is going to stay with us and we need to fight against it.”
Cllr Bob Sullivan, who seconded the motion, said: “The planning application was granted by Newham Council. Who decided they could impose on us more noise and pollution without consulting us? How arrogant.”
An investigation is to be carried out to find out whether or not Waltham Forest Council was consulted on plans to expand London City Airport.
Questions were put to Cllr Clyde Loakes about whether he was contacted by Newham Council when he was council leader about a planning application to expand the airport - which he denies.
Conservative leader Cllr Matt Davis said: “We have been told that this council wasn't consulted, so it is a good question in light of of allegations made by London City Airport. Cllr Loakes, did they write to you or not? Perhaps you can tell us?”
Cllr Loakes said he never received a letter.
All parties supported the motion which and councillors voted unanimously in favour.
Fight the Flight (FTF) which is campaigning against the expansions also lobbied councillors outside the Town Hall.
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Redfox, Walthamstow says...
8:28pm Fri 23 Oct 09
Malcolm Shykles, Highams Park says...
8:51pm Fri 23 Oct 09
Local pollution in the most part comes from the area of the Edmonton Incinerator and traffic fumes.
Most flights from City Airport head out down the Thames and those that come this way are hardly noticeable, what are they trying to prove?
Worried about CO2 enhanced global warming perhaps?
This is what the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change has to say.
“Atmospheric CO2 enrichment brings growth and prosperity to man and nature alike. This, then, is what we truly believe will be the result of the ongoing rise in the air's CO2 content: a reinvigorated biosphere characteristic of those prior periods of earth's history when the air's CO2 concentration was much higher than it is today, coupled with a climate not much different from that of the present. Are we right? Only time will tell. But one thing is certain now: there is much more real-world evidence for the encouraging scenario we paint here than for the doom-and-gloom predictions of apocalypse that are preached by those who blindly follow the manifestly less-than-adequate prognostications of imperfect climate models.”
The City Airport is good for European business and holiday travel. This council, during the deepest recession ever are trying to shut everything down.
It’s members are all completely mad.
Techno2, Walthamstow says...
10:50am Sat 24 Oct 09
What does this say about how on the ball and in touch they all are at the council with the concerns of the people they were voted in to represent?
Real World, London says...
3:59pm Sat 24 Oct 09
As for some of the comments made by some commentators, these are quite frightening. I have a strong belief that communities are being eroded by such people who don't really care for the health and well being of families and people once money can be made.
I hope Waltham Forest council keep their promise and follow through with stopping this Mad and unneeded expansion at London City Airport.
Malcolm Shykles, Highams Park says...
4:52pm Sat 24 Oct 09
Another letter you may have missed:-
Most scientists don't accept global warming
10:38am Friday 23rd October 2009
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Most scientists believe ‘global warming’ is now incorrect. There is a body of over 1,000 leading scientists, meteorologists, naturalists, oceanographers, etc who have studied the ‘supposed facts and data’ showing ‘global warming’.
This body now routinely publishes REAL MEASURED data. None of this data shows ‘global warming’ is real.
Our children should be taught real measured facts in science and “beliefs” in RE.
D Fagan, Southview, High Wycombe.
http://www.guardian-
series.co.uk/search/
4699537.Most_scienti
sts_don_t_accept_glo
bal_warming/
Techno2, Walthamstow says...
10:07pm Sat 24 Oct 09
Real World wrote:What is frightening about asking your councillors what they do with their time on our behalf? Failure to ask searching questions of those entrusted with power by the public is a failure to act as a good citizen.
It's great to see a council actually start to work with their residents as is the case of the noise and air pollution from London City Airport. It's sad that councils like Newham and Greenwich only see the £ signs and forget that there are real people being negatively affected by this Airport. As for some of the comments made by some commentators, these are quite frightening. I have a strong belief that communities are being eroded by such people who don't really care for the health and well being of families and people once money can be made. I hope Waltham Forest council keep their promise and follow through with stopping this Mad and unneeded expansion at London City Airport.
As for Waltham Forest council working with its residents - this council has not actually done anything as yet, they have only postured about it. Lets see what they do before we praise them for any noises they make.
I don't know if you are a resident of the area. If you are you might then understand why people are concerned by the gaps between the words and the reality of what the council achieves, on this as with so many other important issues.
I doubt if the mythical people you speculate about 'who don't really care for the health and well being of families and people once money can be made' actually exist in any great numbers in this part of London. Most people commenting in WFG care passionately about their locality and community, even if they emphasise different aspects of it and advocate difffering solutions and priority to the many serious problems we have here abouts. We all live under the same sky.
Real World, London says...
9:52am Sun 25 Oct 09
The benzine and noise that is generated by aircraft is well known by all. Newham has the highest rates of deaths from asthma in the whole of the UK. This has had a significant increase since the airport moved in and has continually increased.
There are claims on both sides on C02.
Look at both sides of the report more than just picking out what suites you.
Newham has also got the worst case of childrens earning issues especially those under the flight path.
But of course I guess you'll defend London City Airport as it can't be aviation.
People don't want to stop aviation or London City Airport. But expansion of this airport in the most populated area in the UK is just crazy. The most successful airports in the world are miles away from densely populated areas.
Get with the Real World not this one that seems to be so lost.
Malcolm Shykles, Highams Park says...
12:36pm Sun 25 Oct 09
LBWF motion:-
“The motion also pledges that on completion of the investigation, the council will take action by writing to the Mayor of Newham condemning its decision to allow expansion and to consider legal action in relation to the expansion or flight path changes.”
Your letter:-
“Newham has the highest rates of deaths from asthma in the whole of the UK.”
Something rather odd here isn’t there?
London has been in breach of EU legal standards for dangerous airborne particles since 2005. Most of the pollution is caused by diesel fumes.
There is a higher than average infant mortality rate in the E4 area thought to be from fumes from the area of the Edmonton incinerator from which the prevailing wind blows. The LBWF has just agreed to a hypermarket in Highams Park and a large number of diesel engine lorries would be required to keep this restocked.
Something rather odd here isn’t there?
In 1992 we had the first report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. It implied that by 2010 global mean temperature would have risen by 2.5°C from an 1850 base line. The actual increase has been around 0.7°C.
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mdj, e10 says...
4:31pm Fri 23 Oct 09
Tell the municipal Sherlock to look at the back numbers of this newspaper.