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Charities in Waltham Forest should not have to 'jump through hoops' to access funding, councillors promise


ALL three parties within the council have pledged to make funding more readily available to charities and voluntary groups in Waltham Forest.

Following tough questioning from charity workers and members of voluntary organisations at Waltham Forest Voluntary Action's AGM today, councillors pledged to cut bureaucracy and try to distribute funds more evenly.

Representatives of charities from around the borough attended the meeting at the YMCA in Forest Road, Walthamstow, today to grill leading councillors on the way the voluntary sector is treated.

Fears were raised that small groups would not be able to access funding because of the council's complex commissioning process, which could leave services users without vital help.

A representative of the African and Caribbean Disablement Association said: “We get application forms at the 11th hour.

“We don't have time to fill them in and get all the documents we need to do it on time and in a satisfactory manner.

“My charity was formed specifically to care for one very disadvantaged group and we are being told we cannot have the money to do that.”

A representative of the Waltham Forest Dyslexic Association added that groups have to attend up to six meetings and fill in forms up to 14 pages long before they are given funding.

The meeting was attended by Cllrs John Macklin, Matt Davis and Jenny Gray, representing all three parties, and they all agreed charities face too much bureaucracy before they can access funding.

Jenny Gray, junior lead for communities and housing, defended the commissioning process, saying: “Commissioning has meant local groups have to be a lot more professional in their approach.

“In the last three months alone, local groups have brought £300,000 into the borough.”

But she added that the council would examine the way funding is allocated and the process charities have to go through.

Cllr Macklin, leader of the Liberal Democrat group and deputy council leader, said: “We need to stop making people jump through hoops.

“We need to make it easier for people to respond and to change time scales.”

Conservative group leader Cllr Davis pledged that the party would return to greater use of grant funding over commissioning if elected next year and said only one form would have to be filled in.

Charity workers also called on the council to help fund full time staff in a bid to help ease the unemployment crisis.

They also called for more funding to be made available through community councils.


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mdj, e10 says...
1:39pm Tue 17 Nov 09

Curous to see that this meeting was held at the YMCA. The State of the Borough debate (which does not seem to have been promoted much to the public of the Borough) was held at Leyton Orient. Is the Council, having closed or racked up rents for its own halls, trying to get us used to a world in which community groups can't look to affordable public spaces being available on Borough property?

Techno2, Walthamstow says...
3:23pm Tue 17 Nov 09

When councillors leave their offices like this they can convince themsleves they have been out and about meeting the real publiuc, even if they are meeting the same old beneficiaries of council patronage they always see - some of whom are practically on the council payroll.

Robert19, Leytonstone says...
4:17pm Tue 17 Nov 09

mdj wrote:
Curous to see that this meeting was held at the YMCA. The State of the Borough debate (which does not seem to have been promoted much to the public of the Borough) was held at Leyton Orient. Is the Council, having closed or racked up rents for its own halls, trying to get us used to a world in which community groups can't look to affordable public spaces being available on Borough property?
That is because this was not a Council meeting. It was the AGM of Voluntary Action Waltham Forest - a voluntary organisation. I guess it is up to them where they want to hold their meeting.
There does need to be more flexibility in how the Council gives out money. For larger sums more work needs to go into applications, but for smaller sums under say £15,000 or even £5,000, it is very offputting for small organisations to have to wade through a lot of paperwork.

Techno2, Walthamstow says...
5:29pm Tue 17 Nov 09

Robert19 wrote:
mdj wrote: Curous to see that this meeting was held at the YMCA. The State of the Borough debate (which does not seem to have been promoted much to the public of the Borough) was held at Leyton Orient. Is the Council, having closed or racked up rents for its own halls, trying to get us used to a world in which community groups can't look to affordable public spaces being available on Borough property?
That is because this was not a Council meeting. It was the AGM of Voluntary Action Waltham Forest - a voluntary organisation. I guess it is up to them where they want to hold their meeting. There does need to be more flexibility in how the Council gives out money. For larger sums more work needs to go into applications, but for smaller sums under say £15,000 or even £5,000, it is very offputting for small organisations to have to wade through a lot of paperwork.
On the other hand, there is a long and noble tradition of Waltham Forest paying money to organisations with little or no accountability or protection for the public from fraud. Somewhere a balance needs to be struck.

Even if it is 'off-putting' it is notable that they do go through it, so perhaps they have not been as 'put off' as all that. They can always try fund raising from other sources other than the taxpayer. Most grant-givers are very stringent in their requirements these days - if you have ever seen a Comic Relief Grant Application form, you will know what I mean.

mdj, e10 says...
6:58pm Tue 17 Nov 09

'That is because this was not a Council meeting'..

Thanks for that: but it does show that a community organisation chose not to pay the rent on a Council venue, and the Council chose not to offer one.

hologram, says...
11:55am Wed 18 Nov 09

The usual platitudinous hand-wringing from leading Councillors. You wouldn't think that these people were actually responsible for the decisions that have landed us in the mess we're in. "Oh, it's the government, oh, it's the officers", blah, blah, blah. No, Councillors, you're paid to do a job of work, you're the political masters in the Town Hall, for God's sake act like it and earn your keep, don't come whingeing to us!

Walthamster, Walthamstow says...
2:07pm Wed 18 Nov 09

Cllr Grey says “Commissioning has meant local groups have to be a lot more professional in their approach." But a disability group says “We get application forms at the 11th hour. We don't have time to fill them in and get all the documents we need to do it on time."

Sounds as if it's the council that needs to be more professional!

With the amount of public money that has unaccountably "disappeared" in this borough, and the number of council contracts that have been found to have no proper paperwork done -- we need more control, not less. We just need it carried out properly.

What the council should be doing is administering its own processes competently. Send out the paperwork in good time instead of the 11th hour. Help small groups make applications if necessary. Above all, keep proper accounts so that the money goes to the charities and community groups that it is intended for.

hologram, says...
5:59pm Wed 18 Nov 09

Good point, Walthamster. The issue of making community groups jump through hoops has arisen because of the scandal over the deficient audit trail (choosing my words with care) of Better Neighbourhoods Initiative (BNI) funding. As a result of its own crass negligence or incompetence the Council is now making community groups suffer. A classic case of 'do as we say, not as we do'

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