WALTHAM FOREST: Borough sees biggest increase in housing waiting lists

WALTHAM Forest has the highest increase in London of people on housing waiting lists, according to latest figures.

Figures published by the National Housing Federation showed the number of people in the borough waiting for social housing to become available rose by 4,686 between April 2008 and April 2009 - the highest increase in London.

This brought the total number of homes needed to 14,341, equivalent to about 35,852 people in need of council accommodation.

The figures make the borough's waiting list the seventh highest in London.

Belinda Porich, head of the federation’s London region, said: "There is a real danger that many people will simply give up hope of getting anywhere unless there is a dramatic increase in the number of new homes being built.

"Thousands of families on this list are stuck in overcrowded accommodation.

"London has the highest proportion of homeless families in the country and nearly seven per cent of households are overcrowded – more than 2.5 times the national rate.

"The capital is in desperate need of larger, good quality, affordable homes."

The figures are based on data provided by local authorities to the Department of Communities and Local Government.

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1:53pm Mon 1 Mar 10

RichieA70 says...

Thank goodness Walthamstow Stadium, industrial plants and other businesses providing local employment have closed, otherwise we'd have to build on greenbelt to meet the never ending demand.
Thank goodness Walthamstow Stadium, industrial plants and other businesses providing local employment have closed, otherwise we'd have to build on greenbelt to meet the never ending demand. RichieA70

2:28pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Techno2 says...

Plenty of room for more, don't you worry. If we pull down the fake plywood panelling in the town hall there are plenty of cheap materials available and still a bit of space in which to build our very own shanty town for the homeless masses on the grass in front. Pity we aren't able able to feed all of them too with the money from the poor fund - if only that hadn't been stolen by some of our public spirited council officers protected by 'people in positions of power'.
Plenty of room for more, don't you worry. If we pull down the fake plywood panelling in the town hall there are plenty of cheap materials available and still a bit of space in which to build our very own shanty town for the homeless masses on the grass in front. Pity we aren't able able to feed all of them too with the money from the poor fund - if only that hadn't been stolen by some of our public spirited council officers protected by 'people in positions of power'. Techno2

2:52pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Walthamster says...

Don't worry, our councillors have decided to give up the million pounds a year they pay themselves in allowances, and are offering to house families in their comfortable town hall offices.
OK. Just kidding. As you guessed.
Don't worry, our councillors have decided to give up the million pounds a year they pay themselves in allowances, and are offering to house families in their comfortable town hall offices. OK. Just kidding. As you guessed. Walthamster

3:16pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Helen, Walthamstow says...

Problem is...Building lots of new houses and flats doesn't actually solve the problem. The properties that the families vacate will be immediately occupied by other families, and together they will put more and more pressure on local health services, schools etc.

I certainly wouldn't advocate forcibly moving people "up north" or whatever. But the fact is that there is oodles of land ripe for commercial development in the north of England and lots of vacant homes. And work will attract people to move elsewhere.

We simply can't go on cramming more people into this one corner of the UK while other areas stagnate for want of investment.
Problem is...Building lots of new houses and flats doesn't actually solve the problem. The properties that the families vacate will be immediately occupied by other families, and together they will put more and more pressure on local health services, schools etc. I certainly wouldn't advocate forcibly moving people "up north" or whatever. But the fact is that there is oodles of land ripe for commercial development in the north of England and lots of vacant homes. And work will attract people to move elsewhere. We simply can't go on cramming more people into this one corner of the UK while other areas stagnate for want of investment. Helen, Walthamstow

4:25pm Mon 1 Mar 10

March Hare says...

Ay, lass, but it's grim oop north tha' knows!
Ay, lass, but it's grim oop north tha' knows! March Hare

4:52pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Walthamster says...

You're right, Helen. Too bad this council has accepted money from the government to house 20,000 more people. We residents won't see the money, but we'll see the extra crowding all right.
You're right, Helen. Too bad this council has accepted money from the government to house 20,000 more people. We residents won't see the money, but we'll see the extra crowding all right. Walthamster

6:56pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Flashy Plinko says...

Helen, Walthamstow wrote:
Problem is...Building lots of new houses and flats doesn't actually solve the problem. The properties that the families vacate will be immediately occupied by other families, and together they will put more and more pressure on local health services, schools etc. I certainly wouldn't advocate forcibly moving people "up north" or whatever. But the fact is that there is oodles of land ripe for commercial development in the north of England and lots of vacant homes. And work will attract people to move elsewhere. We simply can't go on cramming more people into this one corner of the UK while other areas stagnate for want of investment.
Please do not be so negative. We are talking about people who need a roof over their head. Why are you so smug? Read the Standar tonight and their article on two tier London.
bet you are not in the poor tier.
[quote][p][bold]Helen, Walthamstow[/bold] wrote: Problem is...Building lots of new houses and flats doesn't actually solve the problem. The properties that the families vacate will be immediately occupied by other families, and together they will put more and more pressure on local health services, schools etc. I certainly wouldn't advocate forcibly moving people "up north" or whatever. But the fact is that there is oodles of land ripe for commercial development in the north of England and lots of vacant homes. And work will attract people to move elsewhere. We simply can't go on cramming more people into this one corner of the UK while other areas stagnate for want of investment.[/p][/quote]Please do not be so negative. We are talking about people who need a roof over their head. Why are you so smug? Read the Standar tonight and their article on two tier London. bet you are not in the poor tier. Flashy Plinko

7:58pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Walthamster says...

Flashy Pinko, what's smug about wanting to solve an ever-growing problem? I don't know if Helen's in the 'poor tier' or not. But what has that to do with the constantly increasing population of London and the overwhelming pressure on our services?

It's only the rich, in their comfortable distant suburbs or county towns, who can afford to be smug about this.
Flashy Pinko, what's smug about wanting to solve an ever-growing problem? I don't know if Helen's in the 'poor tier' or not. But what has that to do with the constantly increasing population of London and the overwhelming pressure on our services? It's only the rich, in their comfortable distant suburbs or county towns, who can afford to be smug about this. Walthamster

9:50pm Mon 1 Mar 10

Brisbane says...

And the problem will only get ever worse while we have moronic governments who pay people for having ever more children.
You get what you vote for.
And the problem will only get ever worse while we have moronic governments who pay people for having ever more children. You get what you vote for. Brisbane

9:33am Tue 2 Mar 10

Helen, Walthamstow says...

I'm far from being smug about it Flashy Pinko. If the Tories hadn't introduced their Right to Buy scheme in the 1980s, we would not be in this situation now.

I have every sympathy with many (not all) people living in poor accommodation, not least because I know what they have to endure through more than one of my commitments. Equally, through spending quite a lot of time in cities like Sheffield, I know that they have loads of derelict land following the collapse of industry and desperately need investment to create jobs for their young people, some of whom are contributing to the overcrowding in London and the South East because this is where the work is.

A good job is what attracts people to move away from London to create a better life for themselves and their families. It's a national issue and has to be tackled nationally, but no government seems willing to take it on.

Flashy Pinko, I'm not sharing details of my personal life with you, except to say I grew up in what you call "the poor tier", but I had caring parents and good school education and was able to use what they gave me to imporove my life.
I'm far from being smug about it Flashy Pinko. If the Tories hadn't introduced their Right to Buy scheme in the 1980s, we would not be in this situation now. I have every sympathy with many (not all) people living in poor accommodation, not least because I know what they have to endure through more than one of my commitments. Equally, through spending quite a lot of time in cities like Sheffield, I know that they have loads of derelict land following the collapse of industry and desperately need investment to create jobs for their young people, some of whom are contributing to the overcrowding in London and the South East because this is where the work is. A good job is what attracts people to move away from London to create a better life for themselves and their families. It's a national issue and has to be tackled nationally, but no government seems willing to take it on. Flashy Pinko, I'm not sharing details of my personal life with you, except to say I grew up in what you call "the poor tier", but I had caring parents and good school education and was able to use what they gave me to imporove my life. Helen, Walthamstow

10:20am Tue 2 Mar 10

Silent Majority 2009 says...

The GLC had the right idea - have policies that kept the population of London at about 7m by encouraging people to move out of the city. They even built council housing in places like Brighton. The schools and doctors in Waltham Forest are at breaking point so it makes no sense to increase the population in this area. One of the reasons people live here is because they like the Victorian housing so trying to squeeze even more property in to an already crowded area is a recipe for social unrest. It is time we had a coucil that was prepared to stand up to the Government and protect our area - not one that licks the boots of its masters and ignores its long term residents..
The GLC had the right idea - have policies that kept the population of London at about 7m by encouraging people to move out of the city. They even built council housing in places like Brighton. The schools and doctors in Waltham Forest are at breaking point so it makes no sense to increase the population in this area. One of the reasons people live here is because they like the Victorian housing so trying to squeeze even more property in to an already crowded area is a recipe for social unrest. It is time we had a coucil that was prepared to stand up to the Government and protect our area - not one that licks the boots of its masters and ignores its long term residents.. Silent Majority 2009

10:48am Tue 2 Mar 10

mdj says...

'"The capital is in desperate need of larger, good quality, affordable homes."
Actually, it's in need of fewer people crammed in chasing fewer jobs.

Berthold Brecht joked somewhere about a government that wasn't satisfied with its present electorate, so felt the need to import a new one: is this what's been going on the last couple of decades?
'"The capital is in desperate need of larger, good quality, affordable homes." Actually, it's in need of fewer people crammed in chasing fewer jobs. Berthold Brecht joked somewhere about a government that wasn't satisfied with its present electorate, so felt the need to import a new one: is this what's been going on the last couple of decades? mdj

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