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WALTHAMSTOW: Man murdered yards from scene of recent killing

2:36pm Monday 22nd March 2010 in


A MAN has been stabbed to death yards from where a tourist was murdered two weeks ago.

The 32-year-old victim, who has not been named, was found with stab wounds at 11.55pm on Saturday in Gillards Mews, off High Street, Walthamstow.

He was rushed to the Royal London Hospital in Whitechapel, but died at 5.38am yesterday.

Police are trying to trace the owner of a white burger van, which was parked in the street near to where the victim was found.

A post-mortem gave the cause of death as multiple injuries to the head and chest.

A 23-year-old man was arrested on Sunday and has been bailed pending further enquiries.

The latest killing happened a short distance from where Grenadan tourist Kelvin Francis was murdered on March 7.

Mr Francis was found bleeding to death outside the Captain Fish and Chip Shop, in High Street.

David Kazim, 23, of no fixed address, has been charged with murder and will appear at the Old Bailey on June 18.

Lisa Donegan 21, of Lordship Lane in Wood Green, is accused of perverting the cause of justice and will appear alongside him.

Did you know the most recent victim? Were you in the area when it happened? Did you see anything? Call the newsdesk on 01992 563 125 or email jbunn@london.newsquest.co.uk.

Anyone with information relating to the latest killing is asked to call police on 8345 1585, or call Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

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Comments(24)

March Hare says...
4:01pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Is this to become our 'Murder Mile'? What IS going on here?

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mr rusty says...
4:38pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Nowhere near enough stop'n'search, that's what's going on!

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peeg says...
5:09pm Mon 22 Mar 10

This is really shocking. Walthamstow doesn't need its own 'Murder Mile'. Police need more power and less paper work

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spacefan09 says...
5:17pm Mon 22 Mar 10

no police have got enough power they need to do better jobs
in this day and age because of all of this knife crime has got so bad you can stop who you want when you want but for some chupid reason they don't
enough is enough
they mainly target black youts
me being a black yout myself i think its a good thing stats are stats but when other crimes are going on and most of di time you only stop black youts enough is enough

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Redfox says...
5:35pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I think the Guardian ought to ask their recent correspondent, Hazel Ford (The Avenue E4) who wrote 2 weeks ago "I find everything in Walthamstow absolutely lovely", lah di dah - trill, trill, Gathering buds in May, la, la!
It's idiots like that who wear rose coloured glasses, or blinkers, who are to blame.
By the way, Spacefan09 how on earth did you go through education with such awful spelling ability? There are at least 8 spelling errors and grammatical mistakes in your 'post'.

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spacefan09 says...
5:48pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Redfox wrote:
I think the Guardian ought to ask their recent correspondent, Hazel Ford (The Avenue E4) who wrote 2 weeks ago "I find everything in Walthamstow absolutely lovely", lah di dah - trill, trill, Gathering buds in May, la, la!
It's idiots like that who wear rose coloured glasses, or blinkers, who are to blame.
By the way, Spacefan09 how on earth did you go through education with such awful spelling ability? There are at least 8 spelling errors and grammatical mistakes in your 'post'.
stop picking arguments...my spelling on internet blogs and websites isnt really that important to me...
aslong as you can undertand what im saying whats the problem...
and i left education with something

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March Hare says...
5:53pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Reality check, Redfox! Another man has been murdered in our town centre and you're worried about spelling and grammar? Talk about fiddling while Rome burns!

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blakrussian says...
5:55pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I agree, your message was compleely clear. This is why there is so much hidden racism and victimisation amongs the black youths, because people just mis- understanding youth culture. Redfox who are you to judge wether or not someone has had an education You need to grow up. Every one has a right to express themeselves!
What is happening in Waltham Forest? it's a mess.

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Heartlysmum says...
6:38pm Mon 22 Mar 10

This might help some on here to understand wtf they are on about.
http://www.urbandict
ionary.com/define.ph
p?term=yous%20guys

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spacefan09 says...
6:40pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Heartlysmum wrote:
Yout

Short for youth. A no good pikee (seepikeys) who spends his time abusing, threatening and trying to look hard. This behaviour is only exhibited when pikeys are in groups of 5 or more, as they lack confidence and physical presence to behave such on their own.

A GRIMEY yout behaves similarly but may in fact have the physical presence, or carry a pocket knife to be considered a threat.

Says it all really.
i don't mean to be rude but please no what you are talking about thats just the political term...
yout means yout.h. and im sure you no what that is.

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Heartlysmum says...
6:47pm Mon 22 Mar 10

You no.

Hang on I'll be back in a mo sure someone somewhere knows what this means.

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lillybet1 says...
6:50pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Mr Johar Khan can you deal with this but do you deal more wiv enfield standing as MP you meant to be commited to Walthamstow High Steet 2nd murder in your ward as a LIB DEM !!!!!!! are you commited to this ward or a county ENFIELD as an MP. PLEASE ANSWER I will vote LIB if commitement is given in the local elections. General well thats my secret.

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JackSpur says...
7:21pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Murder has been committed and someone decides to give english lessons. A bit like the people that run our country: divert attention away from serious issues to less serious ones.

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Heartlysmum says...
7:29pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Once we can communicate then we can consider a way to resolve the matter in hand.

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stevewhite says...
9:40pm Mon 22 Mar 10

This story deserves a serious response. The police have enough powers but I do not believe that the problem can be solved just by policing methods alone. In the past police have acted in a heavy-handed way to black youths in particular. Bad relationships reached a peak under the old sus laws, which were abolished after the city riots in the early 1980s. So if they are going to stop and search they need to be sensitive and even-handed and consciously not make victims of black kids in particular.
If as a society we really want to tackle street violence and people being the victims of murder, sometimes for what most of us would see as petty reasons, then society has a big job on its hands. A recent book called The Spirit Level by Richard Wilson and Kate Picket proved fairly conclusively that more equal societies almost always do better at any social indicator you care to name. Britain is the most unequal society of the developed west, apart from the USA.

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peeg says...
11:03pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Racism, spelling and grammar, inequality...yawn!

This is about a murder. I can't wait to see what sentence the murderer receives. A few hours of community service?

RIP

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stevewhite says...
12:35am Tue 23 Mar 10

peeg wrote:
Racism, spelling and grammar, inequality...yawn! This is about a murder. I can't wait to see what sentence the murderer receives. A few hours of community service? RIP
A reaction from a reactionary I see. What sentence should they get? Do you seriously think they will get a few hours community service? I was trying to broaden the discussion out but I can see that some people want to reduce it all down to Daily Mail reaction and slogans. The USA locks up the most people and executes more than any other developed country. Does this reduce crime? No it doesn't. It doesn't reduce crime in general or murder in the states that have the death penalty more than the ones that don't. So how do we reduce crime then? I know, lets ask the Daily Mail and the other tabloids to help us. Even better, let's ask peeg, I'm sure peeg has got the answers.

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JonathanB says...
8:19am Tue 23 Mar 10

There's a knifing so people start about the 'youths'. The victim was 32, the arrested guy is 23. And the fact the police made an arrest this quickly suggests this could be a personally motivated attack, not some random stabbing.

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ITISMEAGAIN says...
9:13am Tue 23 Mar 10

It seems to me as soon as a black guy,Youth or older gets stopped and searched.Everyone screams that the police are picking on blacks.I have been stopped and searched many times, I am white Cockney. Do i scream they are picking on me because i am Cockney, NO i dont mind, as i want the guilty people caught. There is an old saying i was taught .FROM LITTLE ACORNS GREAT OAKS GROW. A lot of todays youths get away with petty crime, and go onto bigger things. And most of the ones who complain about stop and search,are the guilty ones who carry knives. Give the police more power, and stop politicians and human rights preachers,stopping them from catching the murderers

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spacefan09 says...
9:35am Tue 23 Mar 10

ITISMEAGAIN wrote:
It seems to me as soon as a black guy,Youth or older gets stopped and searched.Everyone screams that the police are picking on blacks.I have been stopped and searched many times, I am white Cockney. Do i scream they are picking on me because i am Cockney, NO i dont mind, as i want the guilty people caught. There is an old saying i was taught .FROM LITTLE ACORNS GREAT OAKS GROW. A lot of todays youths get away with petty crime, and go onto bigger things. And most of the ones who complain about stop and search,are the guilty ones who carry knives. Give the police more power, and stop politicians and human rights preachers,stopping them from catching the murderers
you are right...to an extent alot of us use the race card too much but when police don't stop the right people it kinda makes it a no win situation.
I think if they stopped everyone bar pensioners it would help ?
i would say alot of these times girls are too blame aswell
i see alot of black men getting white women too hold there weapons and drugs

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peeg says...
2:15pm Tue 23 Mar 10

Firstly i didn't mention anything about capital punishment. Secondly why compare us to the USA? The UK being a small island nation with a population of just over 60 million compared to the most powerful country on the planet with over 300 million people. Your comparisons are worthless.
Anyway i agree with ITISMEAGAIN. But then i could understand why the many innocent black youths feel frustrated at how the police handle stop and searches.
If you want some answers stevewhite; more police out on the streets, tougher sentencing, scrap early release and make prison life tough! Thats a start or would we be infringing upon their human rights?

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blakrussian says...
2:16pm Tue 23 Mar 10

What does that exactly mean
"black men getting white women to hold their weapons and drugs".
Surely it is those women who choose to hold it for them. Lets not forget who makes the guns in the first place and how, although they talk about gun crime, the selling of guns is a business, in which some governing powers buy into..(REALITY CHECK) All I know that I live in a society that will never be equal and fair, because those in higher power, want there to be disruption. So that they can place some come of order that would satisfy their goal. Control.
The only way this society will ever change, is if they wake up and see the truth for what it really is. There is a hierarchy, some of us will always be at the top, and others will always at the bottom. Unless us citizens decide that we have enough of this unfair justice, nothing will ever happen. Unless we work on developing stronger community relations.

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spacefan09 says...
2:20pm Tue 23 Mar 10

blakrussian wrote:
What does that exactly mean
"black men getting white women to hold their weapons and drugs".
Surely it is those women who choose to hold it for them. Lets not forget who makes the guns in the first place and how, although they talk about gun crime, the selling of guns is a business, in which some governing powers buy into..(REALITY CHECK) All I know that I live in a society that will never be equal and fair, because those in higher power, want there to be disruption. So that they can place some come of order that would satisfy their goal. Control.
The only way this society will ever change, is if they wake up and see the truth for what it really is. There is a hierarchy, some of us will always be at the top, and others will always at the bottom. Unless us citizens decide that we have enough of this unfair justice, nothing will ever happen. Unless we work on developing stronger community relations.
true...your speaking the truth and when i said black men getting white women to hold there weapons that was in relation to the stop and search...
if they stop and searched anyone and everyone...bar old age pensioners we wouldn't in this big mess where in now

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Fishy Bristol says...
7:28am Thu 25 Mar 10

Not a copper in sight as usual. They just seem to come out of the canteen interrupting their card game to clean up the mess aftrewards when everybody has decamped from the scene of crime.

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