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4:32pm Wednesday 18th May 2011 in Waltham Forest News By Ima Jackson-Obot
Councillors have uninimously rejected an application to turn the former EMD cinema into a church.
LIVE FEED FROM WALTHAMSTOW ASSEMBLY HALL 7.30pm
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Despite the heavy showers only a few minutes ago, it would be great understatement to say that excitement has been building up outside the assembly hall.
The grounds of the town hall was only a few minutes ago awash with about 200 to 300 UCKG supporters and about 300 to 400 EMD supporters.
Banners were flying high from both groups and there are also two bag pipe players parading around the fountain.
Many of them have not been able to get into the hall, which is now full to the brim.
7.33pm
Excitement is palpable in the hall, which is full to the brim, with chants from both sides.
Committee chair, Peter Barnett has had to call for peace and civility, following chants from about 500 UCKG members wearing bright yellow workmen's jackets and "save our cinema" chants by about 300 cinema supporters.
7.45pm
The planning officer is now talking about its reasons for refusal: "It is not considered that the proposals do not represent a sufficient economic driver or form of investment in the town centre."
7.51pm The planning officer's speech is being interrupted by repeated banging on the door and the sounds of bag pipe playing and a car horn sounding outside.
7.55pm
Two of the expected speakers at the meeting appear to be unable to get in because they are outside. Cllr Barnett trying to calm hall down the hall.
7.59pm
Caramel Quinn speaking of Cleveland Park Aveneu Residents Association asks council to reject planning application.
She said: "Please refuse this planning application. it is what residents want." 8pm Bill Hodgson of McGuffins now speaking in support of the EMD to remain as a cinema.
He said: "The cinema is central to us." He Mentioned that the church has admitted it has recieved 12 offers from buyers.
"So clearly it is commercially viable, despite was UCKG are saying," he added.
"There is no possibility of the community having again such a beautiful landmark as this."
"Whatever decision is made this community says no."
He has urged the council to "make good history" at the meeting and save the cinema.
8.05pm
Loud chants can be heard outside
8.11pm
James Atkinson from Waltham Forest Cinema Trust talks about its proposal to restore the cinema and take it back to its original use.
The plan is to put ownership in the hands of a trust, restore the cinema and offer educational and community programmes.
He said: "We have no doubt a restored cinema will bring success to the area."
8.15pm
Andre Johnson, a former gang member from Walthamstow, talks about how UCKG turned his life around.
He said after his mother passed away when he was 10 he turned towards crime.
He was invited to a football match, sponsored by the church, and met "positive and happy" people, rather than those he surrounded himself with, who were without any goals in life.
His speech is greeted with riotous applause.
8.20pm
Guylene Rennale talks about how her life turned around about four years ago after she came into contact with UCKG.
She said she was previously suicidal after her partner left her alone with a child.
She added: "When I look at my life today, I have a very good job and good life.
"If it was not for UCKG I would not be where I am today."
8.21pm
Pastor Paul Hill's speech has prompted shouts of support and anger.
He said: "We bought the building in 2003 in response to local residents who wanted a help centre near their homes.
"This end remains the same and has not changed whatever the outcome of the meeting.
"In short this cinema is ours.
"There is a pressing need for this centre, as our 3,000 local members show.
He says the site has been chosen because it is central, good transport links and is the right size.
8.40pm
Cllrs Clair Coghill and Mark Rusling have said they collectively represent 20,000 residents and 'not one' person has expressed support for UCKG's application.
Cllr Coghill expressed disappointment that, although she had requested a meeting four times with UCKG representatives, they declined to meet with her.
She said she regarded this as “contempt”.
8.46pm
Members of the planning committee are now speaking.
Cllr Edwin Northover said it was disgraceful the cinema had been allowed to fall into a state of disrepair.
He is not convinced that a cinema is not viable.
But he acknowledged the original application had changed to include community use, he believed that it still excluded some parts of the community.
He added there was a “special interest” to be tapped into with the building.
He said: "The UCKG said it is their building and there has not been a market for it, but that it because they have been sitting on it for ten years refusing to sell it.
"I am touched by the stories (from UCKG supporters), but those life-changing stories are 'incidental' and can happen in other areas of the borough.
He ended by showing his support for officers recommendations.
8.57pm
Cllr Alan Siggers said he acknowledges the cinema belongs to UCKG but added: “What you do with it is not down to you.”
This was followed by rapturous applause from EMD supporters.
Cllr Alan Siggers is not convinced that there are not other facilities to provide help to the community.
He said for UCKG to suggest it is the only one who can provide a specific kind of help “did not sit well” with him.
“A heritage site is a non renewable resource,” he added.
9.04pm
Cllr Siggers has seconded planning officers recommendations Cllr Mahmood has 'no problem' with the church but questoned whether the location was appropriate.
He added: “I personally will not be supporting this application.”
9.10pm
Cllr Liz Phillips says she has “sympathy” for the future congregation of the church because the building was bought 'possibly' with their money in 2003 and nothing has happened.
She added: “I would love it to come back as a cinema”. “I also have to agree with the officers recommendations.”
9.15pm
Cllr Ebony Vincent has also redistered her support for planning officers' recommendation to reject the application.
9.18pm
Councillors have unanimously supported planning officers' recommendation to reject the application.
Audio report: Listen to the crowds chanting:
Comments(23)
jojojustice
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10:16pm Wed 18 May 11
The Stowaway
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basillio
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Janet1
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11:24pm Wed 18 May 11
no place like stow
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class43hst
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peaceful
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myopinioncounts
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McTodd
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Jeremy_Griffiths
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10:30am Thu 19 May 11
no place like stow
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daveWood
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2:23pm Thu 19 May 11
Janet1
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10:20pm Thu 19 May 11
Jeremy_Griffiths wrote:"Awesomestow" - yes! I love it. And "No Place Like Stow".
I was in the hall. Last night was a victory for the community, a community that last night was filled with yellow-bibbed invaders, frankly. 'Local residents' my foot! The buses and tubes were packed with them - I bet less than 5% of them are from the Stow! Pastor Paul whipped up a frenzy with his 'The cinema is OURS!' rhetoric but the Council now seem energised to make the best use of the building and that means working with the cinema trust. We need to keep fighting hard but lasdt night was a great night for my adopted home of Walthamstow - long live Awesomestow!!
organman2000
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10:21pm Thu 19 May 11
Success
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10:45pm Thu 19 May 11
Janet1
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11:19pm Thu 19 May 11
Success wrote:The council never owned the cinema. The cinema was sold by its businessman owner because the UCKG offered him double the market price.
The UCKG members, some are residents of the Walthamstow borough, are here and are here to stay. I have two questions, which is, where did this situation start? Was it not the council who placed the EMD cinema on the market for sale, and why did the council sell the EMD cinema to the UCKG, knowing they are a church in the first place.
The council are at fault not the UCKG so direct your comments (rude) to the council, not the UCKG.
Jeremy_Griffiths
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1:18am Fri 20 May 11
Success wrote:Where are these mythical thousands of Walthamstow UCKG members? If there are any it is a mere handful. The Councillors and resident's groups have made it clear, that UCKG members have never made themselves known in consultations etc to stick up for the Church beyond a mere handful - 11 people I think it was, out of a Borough of over 200,000. Now I'm not the brightest fellah in the world but that seems to me a vanishingly small percentage. The people at the meeting last night in their ridiculous yellow bibs were NOT local residents. No one was fooled by that shoddy display.
The UCKG members, some are residents of the Walthamstow borough, are here and are here to stay. I have two questions, which is, where did this situation start? Was it not the council who placed the EMD cinema on the market for sale, and why did the council sell the EMD cinema to the UCKG, knowing they are a church in the first place.
The council are at fault not the UCKG so direct your comments (rude) to the council, not the UCKG.
thecinemaisours
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10:39pm Fri 20 May 11
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ajay567 says...
9:53pm Wed 18 May 11