EPPING: Residents' anger at 'forced' parking permits scheme

NEIGHBOURS claim a scheme to have them pay to use parking bays outside their homes was forced on them despite an overwhelming majority voting against the plans.

In 2007 the Epping Parking Review was launched, part of a £1 million district wide review aimed to resolve commuter parking problems near tube stations.

Plans for a range of parking restrictions in the streets near Epping tube station were drawn up by Essex County Council officers, and residents were consulted over them in December 2010 and January 2011.

Sunnyside Road had been blighted by commuter parking problems for years, with residents claiming they were often left unable to park anywhere near their homes when commuters took all of the spaces on their street early in the morning.

They were consulted on whether would like a permit scheme imposed, in which they would pay for the exclusive right to use parking bays outside their homes.

However, despite 19 objecting to the plans and only four approving, the county council is pressing ahead with the parking permits scheme.

The new measures are due to be brought in to effect in the next couple of months.

Alan Rofe, 64, has lived in Sunnyside Road for over four decades.

He said: “We only wanted restrictions for a couple of hours in morning. I have a lot of family who come to visit and after about 11am and that would have left them able to park outside the house with no problems.

“Something has to be done. But during the consultation we expressed the view that parking permits were not needed.

“It seems like the council just want to take the money off people.”

His neighbour, Roy Redgwell, 74, said: “All they want is to bring in a bit of money.

“It has taken them years to do something about this and then they go and impose this scheme that no one voted for.”

An Essex County Council spokesman said: "The review was undertaken on a street by street basis with a number of informal opportunities for members of the public to comment on the proposals and a formal consultation that was undertaken from December 2010 to January 2011.

"The decision was made after reviewing the comments received during the formal consultation and an additional consultation with Epping Forest District Members where no clear decision could be identified whether to include or remove the proposal from that street.”

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3:21pm Sun 15 Jan 12

Serena9230 says...

I live in Epping and live in one of the roads where the commuters park. Luckily I work so on the whole they don't bother me but I will say that when the Council sold off the car park to a developer surely they are to blame for all the congestion in our turnings. People who live in areas where there is no proper transport need to get to a station and of course they are going to drive to the nearest one and it is not really their fault that there is not adequate parking. At least they are working and not one of the country's huge population who think it is ok to sit at home and scrounge off others. Last year when it was snowing I told one of the commuters to park across my drive knowing she would be gone by the time I got back as the roads and pavements were terrible. Seems like the Council once again are going to make a lot of money off local residents when really they should be subsidising it but what's new!!
I live in Epping and live in one of the roads where the commuters park. Luckily I work so on the whole they don't bother me but I will say that when the Council sold off the car park to a developer surely they are to blame for all the congestion in our turnings. People who live in areas where there is no proper transport need to get to a station and of course they are going to drive to the nearest one and it is not really their fault that there is not adequate parking. At least they are working and not one of the country's huge population who think it is ok to sit at home and scrounge off others. Last year when it was snowing I told one of the commuters to park across my drive knowing she would be gone by the time I got back as the roads and pavements were terrible. Seems like the Council once again are going to make a lot of money off local residents when really they should be subsidising it but what's new!! Serena9230
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10:32pm Sun 15 Jan 12

Thunderbird4 says...

It's the same in Waltham Forest. The council get rid of car parks to the developers for them to make money from blocks of flats, so you end up with the parking problem. Very clever. The CPZ's in Waltham Forest were not wanted by residents, they were pushed on them, by a very small minority who probably didn't understand the implications of a CPZ. They are for making money for the council, while it ignores its civic duty to provide parking for commuters - those people who are needed to help create the wealth of this country.
As for the lazy unemployed, sitting at home, having it easy; they can be employed as, parking wardens, clerks for the parking company, the towing fleet, the company that prints the parking vouchers - that'll teach those 2.5 million not to get on their bikes and look for work.
It's the same in Waltham Forest. The council get rid of car parks to the developers for them to make money from blocks of flats, so you end up with the parking problem. Very clever. The CPZ's in Waltham Forest were not wanted by residents, they were pushed on them, by a very small minority who probably didn't understand the implications of a CPZ. They are for making money for the council, while it ignores its civic duty to provide parking for commuters - those people who are needed to help create the wealth of this country. As for the lazy unemployed, sitting at home, having it easy; they can be employed as, parking wardens, clerks for the parking company, the towing fleet, the company that prints the parking vouchers - that'll teach those 2.5 million not to get on their bikes and look for work. Thunderbird4
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8:11am Mon 16 Jan 12

UKIP-local says...

Perhaps Serena will remind us which car park near which station was sold off by the Council as I do not recall it happening.

For Essex CC to take this action after getting contrary views from local residents does remind us that "they" don't like "us" to have our own views. I guess that is one reason we do not get local referendums on local issues.

A much bigger issue is parking capacity at stations. I suspect the real reason why capacity has not been increased is the current hostility to motor cars by the green establishment. At Epping it would be simple to install a second level and thereby double the capacity for parking. At current prices it would be bound to make a profit.

An alternative could be to open a parkway station with a multi-story car park - Ongar, perhaps?

The basic problem is the roads and tube are overloaded and increased capacity is not likely for years to come, if ever. We all know the cause but "they" don't want to do anything about it.
Perhaps Serena will remind us which car park near which station was sold off by the Council as I do not recall it happening. For Essex CC to take this action after getting contrary views from local residents does remind us that "they" don't like "us" to have our own views. I guess that is one reason we do not get local referendums on local issues. A much bigger issue is parking capacity at stations. I suspect the real reason why capacity has not been increased is the current hostility to motor cars by the green establishment. At Epping it would be simple to install a second level and thereby double the capacity for parking. At current prices it would be bound to make a profit. An alternative could be to open a parkway station with a multi-story car park - Ongar, perhaps? The basic problem is the roads and tube are overloaded and increased capacity is not likely for years to come, if ever. We all know the cause but "they" don't want to do anything about it. UKIP-local
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1:05pm Mon 16 Jan 12

word of mouth says...

The Government needs to invest in opening North weald station again, this would take the pressure off of Epping and improve the transport network in an ever growing village.
The Government needs to invest in opening North weald station again, this would take the pressure off of Epping and improve the transport network in an ever growing village. word of mouth
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1:40pm Mon 16 Jan 12

springfieldepping says...

About time! The simple fact is that if there is a place to park your car for free that is close to the station, people will park there. The station car park charges £5.50 a day, so commuters park in side streets for free, saving themselves £1,430 a year. Having more car parks wont make any difference, even if they charged £3 a day, people would still chose to park on my street and save themselves £780 a year.

I know this means having to pay a small annual fee, but it is worth it if it means being able to park near your house. My wife is a working mum, who needs to drop our children at nursery before getting the tube to work. As soon as she leaves, the space is taken by a commuter, meaning she has to drive into a street further away from the house and the tube.

Also, to say "parking permits are not needed" is naive - how else could it be policed?
About time! The simple fact is that if there is a place to park your car for free that is close to the station, people will park there. The station car park charges £5.50 a day, so commuters park in side streets for free, saving themselves £1,430 a year. Having more car parks wont make any difference, even if they charged £3 a day, people would still chose to park on my street and save themselves £780 a year. I know this means having to pay a small annual fee, but it is worth it if it means being able to park near your house. My wife is a working mum, who needs to drop our children at nursery before getting the tube to work. As soon as she leaves, the space is taken by a commuter, meaning she has to drive into a street further away from the house and the tube. Also, to say "parking permits are not needed" is naive - how else could it be policed? springfieldepping
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1:41pm Mon 16 Jan 12

springfieldepping says...

About time! The simple fact is that if there is a place to park your car for free that is close to the station, people will park there. The station car park charges £5.50 a day, so commuters park in side streets for free, saving themselves £1,430 a year. Having more car parks wont make any difference, even if they charged £3 a day, people would still chose to park on my street and save themselves £780 a year.

I know this means having to pay a small annual fee, but it is worth it if it means being able to park near your house. My wife is a working mum, who needs to drop our children at nursery before getting the tube to work. As soon as she leaves, the space is taken by a commuter, meaning she has to drive into a street further away from the house and the tube.

Also, to say "parking permits are not needed" is naive - how else could it be policed?
About time! The simple fact is that if there is a place to park your car for free that is close to the station, people will park there. The station car park charges £5.50 a day, so commuters park in side streets for free, saving themselves £1,430 a year. Having more car parks wont make any difference, even if they charged £3 a day, people would still chose to park on my street and save themselves £780 a year. I know this means having to pay a small annual fee, but it is worth it if it means being able to park near your house. My wife is a working mum, who needs to drop our children at nursery before getting the tube to work. As soon as she leaves, the space is taken by a commuter, meaning she has to drive into a street further away from the house and the tube. Also, to say "parking permits are not needed" is naive - how else could it be policed? springfieldepping
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1:41pm Mon 16 Jan 12

springfieldepping says...

About time! The simple fact is that if there is a place to park your car for free that is close to the station, people will park there. The station car park charges £5.50 a day, so commuters park in side streets for free, saving themselves £1,430 a year. Having more car parks wont make any difference, even if they charged £3 a day, people would still chose to park on my street and save themselves £780 a year.

I know this means having to pay a small annual fee, but it is worth it if it means being able to park near your house. My wife is a working mum, who needs to drop our children at nursery before getting the tube to work. As soon as she leaves, the space is taken by a commuter, meaning she has to drive into a street further away from the house and the tube.

Also, to say "parking permits are not needed" is naive - how else could it be policed?
About time! The simple fact is that if there is a place to park your car for free that is close to the station, people will park there. The station car park charges £5.50 a day, so commuters park in side streets for free, saving themselves £1,430 a year. Having more car parks wont make any difference, even if they charged £3 a day, people would still chose to park on my street and save themselves £780 a year. I know this means having to pay a small annual fee, but it is worth it if it means being able to park near your house. My wife is a working mum, who needs to drop our children at nursery before getting the tube to work. As soon as she leaves, the space is taken by a commuter, meaning she has to drive into a street further away from the house and the tube. Also, to say "parking permits are not needed" is naive - how else could it be policed? springfieldepping
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1:43pm Mon 16 Jan 12

springfieldepping says...

and apologies for posting three times - first time user!
and apologies for posting three times - first time user! springfieldepping
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5:08pm Mon 16 Jan 12

EppingRes1dent says...

@springfieldepping "...how else could it be policed?".

The same way it is policed in Hartland Road where the EFDC councillors live. No parking between 10am and 11am with Traffic wardens patrolling the road between those times. This prevents commuters parking their cars there all day and still allows friends to visit residents after 11am.
@springfieldepping "...how else could it be policed?". The same way it is policed in Hartland Road where the EFDC councillors live. No parking between 10am and 11am with Traffic wardens patrolling the road between those times. This prevents commuters parking their cars there all day and still allows friends to visit residents after 11am. EppingRes1dent
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5:19pm Mon 16 Jan 12

springfieldepping says...

That would work (and it is what I suggested in my representation to the consultation), but you would still need to pay for a permit would you not?

However, the costs for visitors permits are hardly astronomical (and are a small price to pay to be able to guarantee visitors a place to park which believe me isnt the case at the moment), these are from the EFDC website:-

20p for 2 hour period
40p for 4 hour period
£1 all day
That would work (and it is what I suggested in my representation to the consultation), but you would still need to pay for a permit would you not? However, the costs for visitors permits are hardly astronomical (and are a small price to pay to be able to guarantee visitors a place to park which believe me isnt the case at the moment), these are from the EFDC website:- 20p for 2 hour period 40p for 4 hour period £1 all day springfieldepping
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5:56pm Mon 16 Jan 12

sharding says...

I live near the High Street and taking my partner to the station at 7.15am is always a gamble as the road is generally full of parked commuters' cars by the time I return. I support resident parking permits as long as they are reasonably priced with a range of concessions for disadvantaged groups, and that visitor permits are similarly reasonably-priced. But there's space for extra parking capacity too - why can't some of the vast unused space on the former Epping Primary School site be used for car parking? Rather than carry on wasting money like water keeping the site secure while they do nothing about its future use, why can't the district and county councils get together and use some of the space to meet a chronic demand for more parking space in the town?
I live near the High Street and taking my partner to the station at 7.15am is always a gamble as the road is generally full of parked commuters' cars by the time I return. I support resident parking permits as long as they are reasonably priced with a range of concessions for disadvantaged groups, and that visitor permits are similarly reasonably-priced. But there's space for extra parking capacity too - why can't some of the vast unused space on the former Epping Primary School site be used for car parking? Rather than carry on wasting money like water keeping the site secure while they do nothing about its future use, why can't the district and county councils get together and use some of the space to meet a chronic demand for more parking space in the town? sharding
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5:56pm Mon 16 Jan 12

sharding says...

I live near the High Street and taking my partner to the station at 7.15am is always a gamble as the road is generally full of parked commuters' cars by the time I return. I support resident parking permits as long as they are reasonably priced with a range of concessions for disadvantaged groups, and that visitor permits are similarly reasonably-priced. But there's space for extra parking capacity too - why can't some of the vast unused space on the former Epping Primary School site be used for car parking? Rather than carry on wasting money like water keeping the site secure while they do nothing about its future use, why can't the district and county councils get together and use some of the space to meet a chronic demand for more parking space in the town?
I live near the High Street and taking my partner to the station at 7.15am is always a gamble as the road is generally full of parked commuters' cars by the time I return. I support resident parking permits as long as they are reasonably priced with a range of concessions for disadvantaged groups, and that visitor permits are similarly reasonably-priced. But there's space for extra parking capacity too - why can't some of the vast unused space on the former Epping Primary School site be used for car parking? Rather than carry on wasting money like water keeping the site secure while they do nothing about its future use, why can't the district and county councils get together and use some of the space to meet a chronic demand for more parking space in the town? sharding
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1:13am Tue 17 Jan 12

Thunderbird4 says...

If you think a CPZ will secure you a place to park outside your own house, you are mistaken; it doesn't even give you the right to park in your own zone - not if someone with a voucher or permit has parked there already. It's nothing but a stealth tax.
It's also anti-social. If friends or family want to call, it doesn't mean there will be a space for them and if they do get a space, they have to decide how long they are going to stay - you become a clock-watcher for them; it spoils the friend/family event; you have to rush out and put another voucher on the car. If you don't have the right combination of vouchers, you're stuck.
If you get a CPZ, it won't be long before you're complaining about some neighbour in the street, who lets their friend park in the road, depriving you of your space outside your house.
If you think a CPZ will secure you a place to park outside your own house, you are mistaken; it doesn't even give you the right to park in your own zone - not if someone with a voucher or permit has parked there already. It's nothing but a stealth tax. It's also anti-social. If friends or family want to call, it doesn't mean there will be a space for them and if they do get a space, they have to decide how long they are going to stay - you become a clock-watcher for them; it spoils the friend/family event; you have to rush out and put another voucher on the car. If you don't have the right combination of vouchers, you're stuck. If you get a CPZ, it won't be long before you're complaining about some neighbour in the street, who lets their friend park in the road, depriving you of your space outside your house. Thunderbird4
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6:00am Tue 17 Jan 12

pan says...

The problem here is that it is not in the interests of local authorities to provide adequate commuter parking.
Parking demand and traffic is on the increase and so there should be solutions to the problems being sought and forward thinking applied to any town regeneration project.
Parking is a real issue for many people in this day and age. I feel that many councils rely on a CPZ as a quick, simple solution with the added bonus of some profit.
Forward thinking is needed and recognition of the real problem that there is a need for affordable commuter parking near stations and high streets need ample affordable parking to survive.
If neither of these are provided the problem becomes one for residents and businesses who inevitably end up paying to see the problem alleviated.
It amazes me the amount of money paid for by the council to private companies for consultation for the return of the suggestion that CPZ is the answer.
It would be nice to see somewhere along the central line that runs through the district a large scale affordable commuter car park built with the capacity to alleviate this problem for years to come.
There are locations that could be viable for this more so in Loughton than Epping but a massive commuter parking zone in or around Loughton could alleviate the problem for Loughton, Epping, Buckhurst Hill and Chigwell and even possibly North Weald.
The problem here is that it is not in the interests of local authorities to provide adequate commuter parking. Parking demand and traffic is on the increase and so there should be solutions to the problems being sought and forward thinking applied to any town regeneration project. Parking is a real issue for many people in this day and age. I feel that many councils rely on a CPZ as a quick, simple solution with the added bonus of some profit. Forward thinking is needed and recognition of the real problem that there is a need for affordable commuter parking near stations and high streets need ample affordable parking to survive. If neither of these are provided the problem becomes one for residents and businesses who inevitably end up paying to see the problem alleviated. It amazes me the amount of money paid for by the council to private companies for consultation for the return of the suggestion that CPZ is the answer. It would be nice to see somewhere along the central line that runs through the district a large scale affordable commuter car park built with the capacity to alleviate this problem for years to come. There are locations that could be viable for this more so in Loughton than Epping but a massive commuter parking zone in or around Loughton could alleviate the problem for Loughton, Epping, Buckhurst Hill and Chigwell and even possibly North Weald. pan
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6:00am Tue 17 Jan 12

pan says...

The problem here is that it is not in the interests of local authorities to provide adequate commuter parking.
Parking demand and traffic is on the increase and so there should be solutions to the problems being sought and forward thinking applied to any town regeneration project.
Parking is a real issue for many people in this day and age. I feel that many councils rely on a CPZ as a quick, simple solution with the added bonus of some profit.
Forward thinking is needed and recognition of the real problem that there is a need for affordable commuter parking near stations and high streets need ample affordable parking to survive.
If neither of these are provided the problem becomes one for residents and businesses who inevitably end up paying to see the problem alleviated.
It amazes me the amount of money paid for by the council to private companies for consultation for the return of the suggestion that CPZ is the answer.
It would be nice to see somewhere along the central line that runs through the district a large scale affordable commuter car park built with the capacity to alleviate this problem for years to come.
There are locations that could be viable for this more so in Loughton than Epping but a massive commuter parking zone in or around Loughton could alleviate the problem for Loughton, Epping, Buckhurst Hill and Chigwell and even possibly North Weald.
The problem here is that it is not in the interests of local authorities to provide adequate commuter parking. Parking demand and traffic is on the increase and so there should be solutions to the problems being sought and forward thinking applied to any town regeneration project. Parking is a real issue for many people in this day and age. I feel that many councils rely on a CPZ as a quick, simple solution with the added bonus of some profit. Forward thinking is needed and recognition of the real problem that there is a need for affordable commuter parking near stations and high streets need ample affordable parking to survive. If neither of these are provided the problem becomes one for residents and businesses who inevitably end up paying to see the problem alleviated. It amazes me the amount of money paid for by the council to private companies for consultation for the return of the suggestion that CPZ is the answer. It would be nice to see somewhere along the central line that runs through the district a large scale affordable commuter car park built with the capacity to alleviate this problem for years to come. There are locations that could be viable for this more so in Loughton than Epping but a massive commuter parking zone in or around Loughton could alleviate the problem for Loughton, Epping, Buckhurst Hill and Chigwell and even possibly North Weald. pan
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1:20pm Tue 17 Jan 12

sunnyside_resident says...

I live in Sunnyside Rd and i'm more than happy that this Parking Problem is being solved.I've seen commuters park their car on a Monday,and not come back for it until Friday!...and the way they park leaves a lot to be desired.
I get woken up by loud Music & slamming of car doors and have seen cars that the Tax had run out so they shouldn't even be ANYWHERE on the road,let alone blocking up the streets.Ask the Binmen & delivery drivers what it's like down here...They have to work aswell and it's almost impossible for them to do their job.I pay for a Garage because i can't park anywhere in the STREET...let alone outside my house..so at least i now have a choice of getting rid of my garage and pay ( a lot less money ) for a Parking Permit.
I live in Sunnyside Rd and i'm more than happy that this Parking Problem is being solved.I've seen commuters park their car on a Monday,and not come back for it until Friday!...and the way they park leaves a lot to be desired. I get woken up by loud Music & slamming of car doors and have seen cars that the Tax had run out so they shouldn't even be ANYWHERE on the road,let alone blocking up the streets.Ask the Binmen & delivery drivers what it's like down here...They have to work aswell and it's almost impossible for them to do their job.I pay for a Garage because i can't park anywhere in the STREET...let alone outside my house..so at least i now have a choice of getting rid of my garage and pay ( a lot less money ) for a Parking Permit. sunnyside_resident
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2:37pm Tue 17 Jan 12

anotherresident says...

More parking is a solution like widening roads is a solution.

Building a big car park in Loughton would encourage more traffic too and from it.

If we are going to make the Central Line even more over crowded then lets at least make the extra people turn up by bus, bike or on foot.
More parking is a solution like widening roads is a solution. Building a big car park in Loughton would encourage more traffic too and from it. If we are going to make the Central Line even more over crowded then lets at least make the extra people turn up by bus, bike or on foot. anotherresident
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12:07pm Thu 19 Jan 12

dtmgables says...

The parking situation in Epping is a farce. With the exception of Sunnyside road the rest is pretty much off bounds to any non resident car. And nearly every permit bay in is empty most of the time. Why dont the council convert some of these areas to paid public parking areas.

And as a commuter, I must point out that the parking away from the station car park is caused by the fact that: 1. the price to park there is ridiculous and 2. the car park is full by 7.30 most days anyway.

If overland rail prices from the surrounding area were more reasonable half the issue of parking would go away overnight anyway. I have heard people from as far away as Witham dicuss driving to epping to get a cheaper rail rare!
The parking situation in Epping is a farce. With the exception of Sunnyside road the rest is pretty much off bounds to any non resident car. And nearly every permit bay in is empty most of the time. Why dont the council convert some of these areas to paid public parking areas. And as a commuter, I must point out that the parking away from the station car park is caused by the fact that: 1. the price to park there is ridiculous and 2. the car park is full by 7.30 most days anyway. If overland rail prices from the surrounding area were more reasonable half the issue of parking would go away overnight anyway. I have heard people from as far away as Witham dicuss driving to epping to get a cheaper rail rare! dtmgables
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5:16pm Fri 20 Jan 12

Graham@Epping says...

The main point is that a simple yellow line with Mon-Fri, 10am-11am, no parking except for residents restriction would perhaps have been the best solution. Those who really need to park there could then buy a permit but many would not need this. Certain roads managed to vote themselves out but the 'consultation' was either an Agree or Disagree option with either nothing or very sever restrictions. Some of the restrictions are also 10am-4pm: It appears they forgot about those collecting children from Ivy C. Primary School. They will have to park outside the school which will be horrendous. ECC's consultation was a farce and had no respect for resident's views. At the end of the day, Epping is a commuter town, we should look to encourage this as commuters can bring business here. The alternative would be to stop commuters and the only sure way to do that would be to close the station and that would be popular!
The main point is that a simple yellow line with Mon-Fri, 10am-11am, no parking except for residents restriction would perhaps have been the best solution. Those who really need to park there could then buy a permit but many would not need this. Certain roads managed to vote themselves out but the 'consultation' was either an Agree or Disagree option with either nothing or very sever restrictions. Some of the restrictions are also 10am-4pm: It appears they forgot about those collecting children from Ivy C. Primary School. They will have to park outside the school which will be horrendous. ECC's consultation was a farce and had no respect for resident's views. At the end of the day, Epping is a commuter town, we should look to encourage this as commuters can bring business here. The alternative would be to stop commuters and the only sure way to do that would be to close the station and that would be popular! Graham@Epping
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