WALTHAM FOREST: Traffic lights removal plan criticised

TWO pedestrian crossings may be scrapped in Waltham Forest in an attempt to ease congestion.

The sets of signals in Hatch Lane, on the junction with Ashwood Road, Chingford, and Forest Road, by Hill Crest Road, Walthamstow, were among 145 lights found to be causing unnecessary traffic delays by Transport for London (TfL).

But the Labour group on the London Assembly say the proposed changes may make crossing roads more dangerous for vulnerable pedestrians.

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5:25pm Thu 1 Jul 10

Tom Thumb says...

'Bonkers' Boris thinks you can 'ease congestion' by cutting pedestrian crossing times, which already require the speed of an olympic athlete to get across before the green man goes out, and by getting rid of some crossings.
The Hill Crest Road crossing is the only safe place to cross Forest Road between Woodford New Road and Hale End Road. On this stretch of road drivers break the 30 mph speed limit with impunity, and mad motorcyclists scream by at 50-60 mph.
The idea that getting rid of this crossing will prevent traffic jams is insane. All that will result is schoolkids and elderly pedestrians being knocked down.
The real causes of congestion are roadworks, parents driving their kids half a mile to school, and people who drive a mile to the shops.
'Bonkers' Boris thinks you can 'ease congestion' by cutting pedestrian crossing times, which already require the speed of an olympic athlete to get across before the green man goes out, and by getting rid of some crossings. The Hill Crest Road crossing is the only safe place to cross Forest Road between Woodford New Road and Hale End Road. On this stretch of road drivers break the 30 mph speed limit with impunity, and mad motorcyclists scream by at 50-60 mph. The idea that getting rid of this crossing will prevent traffic jams is insane. All that will result is schoolkids and elderly pedestrians being knocked down. The real causes of congestion are roadworks, parents driving their kids half a mile to school, and people who drive a mile to the shops. Tom Thumb
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3:18am Fri 2 Jul 10

hotredman says...

I was in favour of this, but realise it is pointless pelican crossings. The one listed in Forest Rd near a school makes no sense to remove and would probably cost more money. Its not a hold up.
One that should be removed is on Grove Green Rd in Leytonstone near the junction where the old road layout under the central line went and is now a mini park. The timings there are ridiculous if pressed to go red. An old granny could literally walk the road back and forth 4 times as it takes nearly a minute.

Whilst on the subject of traffic lights, they need to fix or repair many traffic lights before they can think of removing them. TfL are totally INCOMPETANT when it comes to traffic lights, even when reported, them or their engineers cant even do the job properly.
The traffic lights at the junction of Grove Green Rd/Fairlop Rd have been on & off over the past year a half stuck in no overall control. This creates more traffic and pollution there, even after midnight because it automatically presses the wait button even though no one is there to cross.
This now has also happened in Hoe Street/First Ave Pelican crossing that was installed near the station last year with new lights. On Wednesday they seemed to have failed and causing massive delays down Hoe Street because of this. More tailback and pollution because it is stuck in no overall control and stays on green for 7 seconds which allows 3 cars to go past, then takes nearly 30 seconds again before it changes to green. Even though reported to TfL, they have done nothing.
I was in favour of this, but realise it is pointless pelican crossings. The one listed in Forest Rd near a school makes no sense to remove and would probably cost more money. Its not a hold up. One that should be removed is on Grove Green Rd in Leytonstone near the junction where the old road layout under the central line went and is now a mini park. The timings there are ridiculous if pressed to go red. An old granny could literally walk the road back and forth 4 times as it takes nearly a minute. Whilst on the subject of traffic lights, they need to fix or repair many traffic lights before they can think of removing them. TfL are totally INCOMPETANT when it comes to traffic lights, even when reported, them or their engineers cant even do the job properly. The traffic lights at the junction of Grove Green Rd/Fairlop Rd have been on & off over the past year a half stuck in no overall control. This creates more traffic and pollution there, even after midnight because it automatically presses the wait button even though no one is there to cross. This now has also happened in Hoe Street/First Ave Pelican crossing that was installed near the station last year with new lights. On Wednesday they seemed to have failed and causing massive delays down Hoe Street because of this. More tailback and pollution because it is stuck in no overall control and stays on green for 7 seconds which allows 3 cars to go past, then takes nearly 30 seconds again before it changes to green. Even though reported to TfL, they have done nothing. hotredman
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3:19am Fri 2 Jul 10

Earle Martin says...

Well said, Tom. This borough is already a car-obsessed hellhole for the most part; this ludicrous decision comes as absolutely no surprise given that our city's transport administration is controlled by a right-wing car supremacist. We can only pray that LBWF sees sense and prevents this from happening.
Well said, Tom. This borough is already a car-obsessed hellhole for the most part; this ludicrous decision comes as absolutely no surprise given that our city's transport administration is controlled by a right-wing car supremacist. We can only pray that LBWF sees sense and prevents this from happening. Earle Martin
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